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Old 03-24-2007, 11:42 AM   #1
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Are you glad that more games are going multiplatform?
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This is in regards to the FF topic.

I think its a great thing. First of all, it means that if more than one company are going to get the same games, its all going to come down to customer support and which system can boost the best features. It'll be kinda like the Monday night wars in wrestling. Basically, we win.

Also, the money that is being saved instead of having to buy 2-3 systems just to play the whole spectrum of games. (albeit Nintendo)

Lets see who can step it up.
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Old 03-24-2007, 11:58 AM   #2
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As long as both systems stay alive, I don't care. I have my PS3, and I'm happy with it. I've never had any desire to buy a 360.
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Old 03-24-2007, 12:18 PM   #3
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As long as both systems stay alive, I don't care. I have my PS3, and I'm happy with it. I've never had any desire to buy a 360.
Agreed. However, I have both systems. I try to balance out the games to each system.

However, as of late, sony has lost a good load of exclusive titles to Xbox and to PC. Most recently, Devil May Cry.
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Old 03-24-2007, 12:22 PM   #4
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To be honest, my first thought was "Yes. I'm glad I don't have to buy a Playstation 3 to get the games I want."

Then again, last generation, I never bought an XBox. So I'm still only buying 2 systems.

I knew the PS3 would hit a snag, and I knew it would lose exclusives. It was why I instead "gambled" on the 360. I also disagree with the analogy to the Monday Night Wars.

All and all, I'm more or less positive on non-exclusives.
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:20 PM   #5
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Yes and no. As a gamer I think it's cool, but as a PS3 owner I wish they were holding on to some of their exclusives.

The Xbox 360 games look better then PS3 games right now, and with the achievement system and Xbox Live, there's no reason to play something on the PS3 if you own both systems, especially since they are apparently bringing out HDMI output for the 360 soon.

I do own both systems, and I think that they are both awesome, but I spent $500 on my PS3 and wish it was a little more then just a neat interface with 2 good exclusive games right now. I think it has a lot of potential, but the 360 is already an awesome system, so they need to catch up.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:34 PM   #6
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It benefits the gamers in general, but if you blew all your money on a PS3 you lose out because 1. it's an assload of money for a system , and 2. it's a bitch to program for, apparently, so to make up the losses formerly exclusive titles are being multiplatform by their developers.

I'm probably gonna have all three systems this time around, simply because the Nintendo fanboy in me is not dead yet (he's on life support tho, poor little guy ), the 360 offers the most games right now (and potentially in the long run) and because after the PS3's price drops I'll still be looking for those Sony 1st party titles (Tekken, God of War, etc).
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:30 PM   #7
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it's a bitch to program for, apparently, so to make up the losses formerly exclusive titles are being multiplatform by their developers.
I keep hearing that too. I think that developers have had trouble with several systems at first, hopefully it will become easier when people figure it out down the road, and we will see more games coming out..
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:35 PM   #8
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Well, that was one of the 3 big reasons the N64 didn't have a whole lot of support either: difficult to program for, cartridge based games and the kiddie moniker.

Nobody's gonna wanna make games for a system if it's gonna take longer to put out a game. It's just not cost effective. This is especially the case for those smaller developers, where a delayed game can mean bankruptcy.
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:03 PM   #9
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Yeah, no doubt. Sony should really step in and offer to help developers with their games, not in a tyrannical way, but to help more great games come out.
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:42 PM   #10
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I keep hearing that too. I think that developers have had trouble with several systems at first, hopefully it will become easier when people figure it out down the road, and we will see more games coming out..
Hate to bring you to reality, but the complexity for the system is beyond what most people seem to want to deal with. And Sony themself has said that the full potential will likely never be reached. Yeah, good pitch to developers.
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:44 PM   #11
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Well, that was one of the 3 big reasons the N64 didn't have a whole lot of support either: difficult to program for, cartridge based games and the kiddie moniker.

Nobody's gonna wanna make games for a system if it's gonna take longer to put out a game. It's just not cost effective. This is especially the case for those smaller developers, where a delayed game can mean bankruptcy.
The first one's a bit of a misnomer. Couple of my friends were dealing with programming at the time, and can testify that the PS was similarly a pain to program for relatively.

The fact is, Sony was courting developers, so they were willing to take the time to learn. Nintendo was pissing on developers, so they didn't.
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Old 03-25-2007, 04:19 AM   #12
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I see. Well, as a (admittedly novice) programmer, I can tell you no matter how good people tell you a particualr language is, you're not gonna want to use it, if it's a pain in the ass to work with.
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Old 03-25-2007, 07:04 PM   #13
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Yeah, but put it this way: You have two equally complex languages, or at least comparably so. I won't pretend to be an expert on this, but you don't hang around with and be educated by programmers (My electronics professor, on top of serving in 'Nam, was a musician AND a programmer) without picking up a lot about this. Back then, this was apparently a big discussion point.

In any case, they're about the same. So what makes you favor the one over the other?

N64 got a rep for being hard to program for despite being a similar "chore" to the Playstation. Basically, it'd be like two game systems, where they have similar graphics capacities, and one gets a rep for being better visually.

Really, the Playstation wins because they were courting programmers. Now, the table has turned. They are the ones who are pissing off programmers by making their system hard, and bragging about it. This time, however, EVERYTHING ELSE is significantly easier to program for. The Wii is similar to the GCN, so it's familiar and relatively easy. 360? Also pretty easy to make good games.

PS3? Yeah. "We may never see it reachs its full potential." Which means harder programming to get XBox level games.

That is their albatross.
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