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Old 04-07-2007, 05:24 PM   #1
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Who sides do you take in the following real feuds?
Micheals v Hart

Arn v Nash

Flair v Foley

Warrior v Reality

Also, feel free to add in your own.
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Old 04-07-2007, 05:29 PM   #2
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Michaels

Nash

Foley

Warrior
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Old 04-07-2007, 05:33 PM   #3
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I personaly pick:

Micheal, Nash, Flair, Warrior.
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Old 04-07-2007, 05:53 PM   #4
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The only thing I know about the Flair/Foley feud is that Flair said Foley is a glorified stunt man, to which I disagree...other than that, I havn't heard anything else about it.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:04 PM   #5
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Michaels, Nash, Foley, Reality. And I picked Foley for that reason above.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:05 PM   #6
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Micheals v Hart -- Michaels

Arn v Nash -Nash(Biggest Draw in history, how could u side against him)

Flair v Foley - Foley

Warrior v Reality - Warrior
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:06 PM   #7
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Michaels, Nash, Foley, Reality. And I picked Foley for that reason above.
So what's the deal, are you going to be TPWW's Kliq's Justin Credible?
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:09 PM   #8
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So what's the deal, are you going to be TPWW's Kliq's Justin Credible?
Sure, why not. I can go on to have moderate success in a thrid tier promotion and subsequently be buried upon my opportunity to make it big. Be brought back for another opportunity, and be buried, again.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:10 PM   #9
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Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart - Gotta pick Hart. He's overrated as Hell, but still a great wrestler. HBK did "lose his smile" on him. However, Bret should put water under the bridge.

Arn Anderson vs. Kevin Nash - I actually don't know the story here. However, I do like Arn more. Nash is entertaining as Hell when it comes to speaking, but Anderson was the better wrestler.

Ric Flair vs. Mick Foley - I think Foley is a nice guy, personally, so it's easy to take his side. As much as one can respect Ric Flair, you have to find some irony in Flair calling Foley a glorified stunt-man, and than seeing him go out and wrestle a TLC Match with Edge...and then Money in the Bank.

Ultimate Warrior vs. Reality - Reality. If reality had defeated Ultimate Warrior, I may not have to hear so much about him.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:11 PM   #10
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how about Dynamite/Rougeaus?
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:11 PM   #11
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Micheals v Hart

Arn v Nash (Don't know about this feud, but will look it up)

Flair v Foley

Warrior v Reality
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:16 PM   #12
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:17 PM   #13
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Sure, why not. I can go on to have moderate success in a thrid tier promotion and subsequently be buried upon my opportunity to make it big. Be brought back for another opportunity, and be buried, again.
Sounds about right. Don't worry, you and Steele can form a tag trio with some fat bald dude years from now.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:23 PM   #14
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:23 PM   #15
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Sounds about right. Don't worry, you and Steele can form a tag trio with some fat bald dude years from now.
^ And Main Event a WSX show.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:26 PM   #16
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Jesus, if only Aldo would have been brought back in his last WWE stint.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:27 PM   #17
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It's funny how the Kliq became three very different groups...

Michaels and Hunter had 2 of the greatest WWE careers of anyone ever.

Nash and Hall went on to make a TON of money and be key factors in WCW defeating WWE in ratings.

Waltman and Credible sat on the curtain jerk part of the card for years and only get a chance to Main Event in small regional companies at best.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:28 PM   #18
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It was to make sure they took over all aspects of the card...



...and all aspect of the wrestling world.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:32 PM   #19
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I still think TNA should bring in Hall, Waltman, and possibly even Credible...have them just walk around with Nash and a camera...never give any of them matches, just let me fuck around. I swear to god, it would be the best product TNA could hope to put on. (proof of this lies in the fact that Nash's segments on Impact constantly are the only worthwhile highlight of the entire show)
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:35 PM   #20
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Yeh, even though it would be a bit of rehashing, TNA should establish some kind of group consisting of Hall, Waltman, Credible, and Shelley (and maybe one more younger guy in TNA)...it would get Shelley over, boost ratings (even if just the slightest bit), and make for more entertaining television than 99% of what else is going on in wrestling right now.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:37 PM   #21
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:38 PM   #22
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Micheals v Hart

Arn v Nash

Flair v Foley

Warrior v Reality

Also, feel free to add in your own.
Michaels
Nash
Flair
Warrior
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:38 PM   #23
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id like to know how u could pick michaels side.He made the feud with Hart go to the extremes it did(losing his smile,sunny days, screwjob,refusing to return job which he owed Hart,being an asshole that only he can be)
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:45 PM   #24
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Micheals v Hart: Bret. Easily

Arn v Nash: Arn

Flair v Foley: This really isn't much of a fued especially since they've worked things out.

Warrior v Reality: As much of a bitch Reality can be, Warrior is a bigger one.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:45 PM   #25
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Hart was a "wank" (Source: Triple H).
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id like to know how u could pick michaels side.He made the feud with Hart go to the extremes it did(losing his smile,sunny days, screwjob,refusing to return job which he owed Hart,being an asshole that only he can be)
1) Ever consider that maybe, just maybe, Michaels really did have a knee injury during the "losing his smile" time? No you didn't, cause you're hell bent on making Michaels out to be an asshole.

2) Could it be possibly that God's only son Bret Hart maybe did sleep with Sunny? And not that an eye for an eye is a good argument, but Bret started it by making his dumb gay jokes for HBK appearing in Playgirl.

3) Screwjob = Bret Screwed Bret.

4) Michaels didn't OWE Bret a return job, that is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. If you lay down for someone they have to do it back...fuck no.

5) Being an asshole like only he can be...yeah I suppose so. But it's damn sure better than Mr. Chip on his shoulder, always had a bitch, whinning, moaning, complaining, bitching, over rated, bitter than Michaels was always better, Bret Hart.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:54 PM   #27
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1) Ever consider that maybe, just maybe, Michaels really did have a knee injury during the "losing his smile" time? No you didn't, cause you're hell bent on making Michaels out to be an asshole.
Except that he didn't have an injury.

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2) Could it be possibly that God's only son Bret Hart maybe did sleep with Sunny? And not that an eye for an eye is a good argument, but Bret started it by making his dumb gay jokes for HBK appearing in Playgirl.
Could it be possible that he didn't???

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3) Screwjob = Bret Screwed Bret.
So breaking your word and forming an inside plan based on paranoia constitutes the other guy screwing himself?

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4) Michaels didn't OWE Bret a return job, that is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. If you lay down for someone they have to do it back...fuck no.
Except that he was supposed to job to Bret at WM 13.

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5) Being an asshole like only he can be...yeah I suppose so. But it's damn sure better than Mr. Chip on his shoulder, always had a bitch, whinning, moaning, complaining, bitching, over rated, bitter than Michaels was always better, Bret Hart.
I'd like to think that getting f*cked over by a company you were loyal to for 14 years allows you some right to be a tad inconvenienced. Have you ever heard Bret speak when he's NOT harrassed about Montreal? It's quite the non-bitchy experience.
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The only reason Michaels is so villified in this feud and Hart is so admired is because Meltzer has had a hard on for Bret since...well...forever. And since the only people who are bigger sheep than marks are internet smarks, they fallow the official source for IWC's opinion: Dave "I'm the end all be all of wrestling opinion" Meltzer.
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Old 04-07-2007, 07:04 PM   #29
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Except that he didn't have an injury.
Actually he DID have an injury. It should also be noted that it was during this time that WCW was throwing HUGE contracts in Michaels face asking him to sign, and while Bret is so glorified for sticking with the company, Michaels did it too.

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Could it be possible that he didn't???
How delughtful that you know for a fact all of Bret Hart's bed mates, did he tell you the complete list before or after you swallowed his cum?

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So breaking your word and forming an inside plan based on paranoia constitutes the other guy screwing himself?
Bret Hart didn't want to job to Michaels. McMahon wanted him to job to Michaels. McMahon is a paranoid man, and given his history of wrestlers jumping ship and dumping titles in the trash, not to mention how much shit he gets for letting Jeff Jarrett's contract run up while he was Champ, I have NEVER understood why Bret warrents some super special "Oh you no longer under contract, but sure, you hang on to the belt, and let's hope you show up tomorrow and drop the belt despite the fact you're refusing to right now" treatment. Besides, Bret reused to job, McMahon made the choice, and it was HHH's plan. Michaels went along with it, and tell me you wouldn't have gone along with it as well if the guy who had been a total dick to you for years was in a position where your BOSS was telling you do this...

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Except that he was supposed to job to Bret at WM 13.
This has never been confirmed. It's a rumor. And by the way, Michaels DID have a knee injury so we already covered this. Either Michaels was legit injured, or he hated Hart so much he would rather drop the belt, not wrestle for a few months (all the while missing out on % of PPV buys, including WrestleMania and a certain drop in merch sales), fake the entire world out, and continue to deny WCW Million dollar contracts...just so he didn't have to lay down for Bret? Come on.

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I'd like to think that getting f*cked over by a company you were loyal to for 14 years allows you some right to be a tad inconvenienced. Have you ever heard Bret speak when he's NOT harrassed about Montreal? It's quite the non-bitchy experience.
Hart bitched and moaned long before Montreal, and he does it still above dozen of topics. Bret is a generally very bitter and disgrunted individual. This is my opinion of him based on what I've heard other wrestlers say, based on what I've read over the internets, and based on the fact that I've met him in person more than once and every time he carried with him a giant "I'm pissed off at the world" sign over his head.
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The entire Bret Hart screwjob falls down to one fact, and ONE fact alone. It has nothing to do with thefact that Michaels was a massive whining jerk at the time. It has nothing to do with Shawn Michaels not wanting to do the job.

It DOES have to do with Bret wanting to let his contract expire while the belt was still on him. When you get ready to leave the company, you DO THE HONORS on the way out, no matter WHO it is. You show the company respect. Vince had NO choice as a 'businessman.' It has nothing to do with personal emotion. You don't put your own business, title history, and exposure at risk like that.
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Micheals v Hart: Michaels. Because Hart was the only one who saw the situation as it was, and could have stopped it by swallowing his pride, and didn't.

Arn v Nash
Would someone please explain this one?

Flair v Foley
Meh, they both had valid points and I think this whole business was seriously overblown.

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Warrior and his destrucity beat Reality every time.

Here's one that I'm surprised I haven't seen: Flair vs Rhodes
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A few points on this thread:

The only reason Shawn Michaels didn't go to WCW was because WWF point blank refused to release him from his iron-clad multi-year contract on the several occasions he requested them to. Loyalty had nothing to do with it. Bret chose to remain with WWF when he was a free agent and had the choice. Shawn preferred to up and leave when he was under contract and did NOT have that option. Bet he's glad he stayed today, though.

As far as the Bret/Shawn feud. I side with Bret during the feud, but Shawn has at least been the bigger man in the time since by letting it go (for the most part). Shawn was always a dick back then, and Bret was one of the only guys with enough clout to stand up to him. Maybe Bret did have a few skeletons in his closet, does that mean that they should be broadcast to the world? Shawn was definitely a prick, but Bret kicked his ass in June 1997. That should have been closure enough for 'The Hitman'.

Shawn Michaels did have a legit knee injury at the time he 'lost his smile'. It was, however, the same knee injury he had been carrying for most of 1996 was never the "career threatening" injury he made out. He would have been no more unable to work WrestleMania than he had been able to work matches during the previous 6 months. It was all-too-convenient that he decided he needed surgery just before he was due to lose the title to Bret.

Even though I believe Arn Anderson has contributed more to the business, worked harder and put on better matches than Kevin Nash, I gotta side with Nash as far as that feud goes. Arn should have taken the whole retirement parody with a pinch of salt, but by refusing to take a joke and taking himself so seriously, he made himself look an ass. Okay, maybe it was in bad taste to a degree, but the heat was definitely supposed to be on Nash in that segment. He didn't try to make Arn look like a dick, he tried to make HIMSELF look like a dick. Arn should have lightened up a little.

Flair had a lot of audacity taking shots at Foley, who went on to become a success and a millionaire in spite of Flair's booking of him in WCW. I think Flair lost face when Foley was a success due to the fact he had declared him a wheelchair case waiting to happen. Both sides should shoulder some blame, but I think Flair (a man who APPARENTLY only won the NWA World title to begin with because his territory were worried he was killing business with his same-match-every-night routine) was out of line knocking Foley's ability. He should just ask his 'best buddy' Triple H where HE would be without Foley going all out in putting him over in early 2000.

As for Dynamite Kid, there's another jerk, a bully, a man who took great pleasure and pride in making people's lives a misery... from time to time, bullies get beaten up. I'm glad the Rougeaus knocked his face off.

And finally, Flair/Rhodes didn't seem to have a lot of hatred during their 'love in' at the Hall of Fame. I think it was mostly to do with Rhodes' jealousy at Flair's worth to JCP/WCW, putting Rhodes in the wrong. Whatever it was, at least they seem to respect and like each other nowadays.
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1) Ever consider that maybe, just maybe, Michaels really did have a knee injury during the "losing his smile" time? No you didn't, cause you're hell bent on making Michaels out to be an asshole.

2) Could it be possibly that God's only son Bret Hart maybe did sleep with Sunny? And not that an eye for an eye is a good argument, but Bret started it by making his dumb gay jokes for HBK appearing in Playgirl.

3) Screwjob = Bret Screwed Bret.

4) Michaels didn't OWE Bret a return job, that is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. If you lay down for someone they have to do it back...fuck no.

5) Being an asshole like only he can be...yeah I suppose so. But it's damn sure better than Mr. Chip on his shoulder, always had a bitch, whinning, moaning, complaining, bitching, over rated, bitter than Michaels was always better, Bret Hart.
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