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Old 11-07-2007, 03:10 PM   #1
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Arrow If you were to end the brand split...
And had to fire enough talent to keep just one roster's worth for one tv show (for argument's sake, RAW) then who would you keep, and who would you let go, and why?

Also, what title(s) would you keep, get rid of, merge etc.

I will post mine shortly.

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Old 11-07-2007, 03:26 PM   #2
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For the mainevent scene: Cena, Micheals, HHH, Bats, Orton, Edge

Midcard Scene: CM Punk, Morrison, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, MVP, Finlay, Mr. Kennedy, Burke, Miz, Cody Rhodes, Umaga, Santino, Chavo, Hardcore Holly, Sugar Shane Helms

Tag Team: WGTT, Highlanders, Cade & Murdoch, Londrick, Jesse & Festus

Diva: Beth Phonics, Victoria, Melina, Mickey James, Jillian Hall

Yeah, I think that is it. Since Jericho hasn't re-debuted yet, I haven't techincally fired him, but if he were to come back he would be mainevent.

You might notice 'Taker is not on the list. That is because he needs to retire.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:31 PM   #3
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Also you may note that Carlito isn't on my list. He hasn't done shit since he came on, so he is gone. Kennedy is barely in there. Also, D.H. Smith is gone because he couldn't make it 2 weeks before failing a drug test. If you are a new hire you don't deserve a 3 strike rule.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:16 PM   #4
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Pretty sure if it came to this, they'd just take a couple main eventers from the SD and ECW brands and can the rest of the non Raw folks.

I'd merge the WHC and WWE championship.

I'd keep the IC title, and merge the US title with it or chuck the US altogether.

Fuck the Cruiserweight title. In fact, fuck cruiserweights. No more affirmative action.

Women will have no title. Send them back to the kitchen where they belong.

ECW has no title, so that's easy.

Who would I fire? That's a good question, though I'm not sure much belt tightening is necessary. Back in the days of a single roster, they'd have upwards of 60 people on the roster, not counting valets and GMs and announcers. I think once you remove those from the current roster counts, you're pretty close to that, especially since ECW has like 7 people.

I'd give a more commited response, but it would require looking at the three rosters and cutting people fro mthem, and I don't think I wanna take the time right now.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:22 PM   #5
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If I had to take the entire promotion down to one roster size...

Main Event (WWE Championship)
Shawn Michaels, Triple H, John Cena, Randy Orton, Batista (heel turn), & Edge (insert Jericho here upon arrival)

Upper Midcard (Intercontinental Championship)
MVP, CM Punk, John Morrison, Umaga, Kane & Elijah Burke

Lower Midcard (United States Championship)
Bobby Lashley, Rey Mysterio, Finley, Carlito, Mr. Kennedy & Chavo Guerrero

Tag Teams (WWE Tag Team Championship would be brought back)
Hardy Boys, Londrick, WGTT, & Jesse and Festus

Show Up Once In a While Guys
Ric Flair, Steve Austin & The Undertaker

Divas (Women's Championship/managers)
Maria, Beth Phoenix, Mickie James, Melina, Candice, Victoria & Torrie Wilson

General Manager/Commissioner/Executive Office/Owner/Boss/Powers That Be/whatever...
Mr. McMahon, Hornswoggle & William Regal ordeal.

Commentators
RAW - JR & JBL
SmackDown/ECW - Joey Styles & King

This is all assuming I get to play around, pt people where I want them, and don't have to worry about things like egos, paychecks, or whatever else...
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:32 PM   #6
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Undertaker
Khali
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"The Undefeated" Snitsky
Mark Henry
Kane
Big Daddy V
Umaga
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Scott Steiner
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Mid Level: (IC title contenders)
MVP
Edge
Matt Hardy
CM Punk
Jeff Hardy
Chavo
Elijah b
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:36 PM   #7
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Main Event (WWE Championship)
Shawn Michaels, Triple H, John Cena, Randy Orton, Batista (heel turn), Undertaker & Edge (Jericho)

Upper Midcard (Intercontinental Championship)
MVP, CM Punk, Umaga, Kane, Bobby Lashley, Mr. Kennedy

Lower Midcard (United States Championship)
Elihja Burke, Rey Mysterio, Finley, Carlito, John Morrison, Gregory Helms

Tag Teams (WWE Tag Team Championship)
Hardy Boys, Londrick, WGTT, Deuce & Domino

Divas (Women's Championship/managers)
Maria, Beth Phoenix, Mickie James, Melina, Candice, Victoria

General Manager/Commissioner/Executive Office/Owner/Boss/Powers That Be/whatever...
Shane McMahon

Commentators
RAW - JR & JBL
SmackDown/ECW - Joey Styles & Tazz
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:54 PM   #8
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Main Event: Triple H, HBK, John Cena (as a heel), Randy Orton, Undertaker, Edge, Booker T (resigned, as a face), Batista (as a heel), Sting (acquired from TNA to feud with 'Taker)

Upper Midcard: Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Kane, MVP, Mr. Kennedy, RVD (resigned), CM Punk, Elijah Burke, Rey Mysterio, Monty Brown (resigned), Umaga

Lower Midcard: Kenny Dykstra, John Morrison, Finlay, Cody Rhodes, Colt Cabana (called up), Santino Marella, Jimmy Yang, Jamie Noble, Shannon Moore

Women: Mickie James, Melina, Victoria, Beth Phoenix, Maria, Candice, Kelly Kelly (cause of her boobs)

Tag Teams: Londrick, Cade & Murdock, WGTT, D&D, Highlanders, Jesse & Festus, MCMG (acquired from TNA), America's Most Wanted (acquired from TNA)

Authority Figures: Power struggle between Eric Bischoff (heel) and Shane McMahon (face)

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Raw - Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler, and JBL (That's right, three.)
Smackdown - Michael Cole and Kevin Nash (acquired from TNA)
ECW - Joey Styles and Tazz
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:38 PM   #9
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Main event: HHH, Cena(heel) ,Orton, RVD ,HBK, Edge, Taker, Jericho, Batista(either Batista or Jericho as heel)

Upper midcard(IC Championship): MVP, Matt Hardy, Rey Mysterio, Lashley, Finlay, Jeff Hardy, Kennedy, Umaga, Kane,John Morisson, Shelton Benjamin

Lower midcard(US championship): CM Punk,Cody Rhodes,Santino,Elijah Burke, Carlito, Chavo,Hardcore Holly, Val Venis, Charlie Haas

Tag teams: WGTT, Hardys, Cody& Hardcore Holly, Londrick,Cade& Murdoch, Jesse& Festus, kane/taker(occasionally) DX(occasionally) Dreamer/RVD

Womens:Mickie James, Melina, Victoria, Beth Phoenix, Maria, Candice, Kelly Kelly

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Old 11-07-2007, 06:48 PM   #10
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Forget about ending brand splits. Not happening. They run too many shows and can't afford to cut back.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:49 PM   #11
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Also, I would have a series of matches basically making guys fight for their jobs.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:50 PM   #12
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Forget about ending brand splits. Not happening. They run too many shows and can't afford to cut back.
I realise this, it's all purely hypothetical. :foc:
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:52 PM   #13
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I realise this, it's all purely hypothetical. :foc:
In that case, I'd build the entire company around Santino Marella.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:56 PM   #15
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:01 PM   #16
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I would get rid of the World Heavyweight Championship completely, as well as the ECW title, merge the IC and US titles to make one jumbo IC title, unify the tag team belts, and get rid of the cruiserweight and women's title, at least for now. Also, bring back the European title.

So, things would look more or less like this:

Main event:

John Cena
Edge
Randy Orton
Triple H
Shawn Michaels
Batista
Kane
Chris Jericho if he decides to come back

Upper midcard/borderline main eventers/IC title division:
MVP
John Morrison
Jeff Hardy
Umaga
Matt Hardy
Bobby Lashley
Rey Mysterio
Santino Marella
Elijah Burke
Shelton Benjamin
Kennedy
CM Punk
Finlay etc etc etc

I don't care about everyone else

And I don't think that they would have to fire anyone off the roster. In fact, having more guys on the roster that aren't being used as much make the guys that are being used more credible. I find it kind of pathetic watching ECW with only ten actual wrestlers on the show, or RAW when the Highlanders and that trucker team make up half the show. The rosters were already convoluted enough as it was before they brought in ECW. Now everything just seems to be a huge mess.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:09 PM   #17
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In that case, I'd build the entire company around Santino Marella.
I like your thinking.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:11 PM   #18
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:15 PM   #19
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I think Santino would be a good main event member of the Hindu World Order also.
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Forget about ending brand splits. Not happening. They run too many shows and can't afford to cut back.
They could still have the shows without the rosters being split apart.
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Then you face pissing off your audience with B and C shows.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:26 PM   #22
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You mean Smackdown and ECW?
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Main Event Faces: Chris Jericho, John Cena, Triple H, Undertaker

Main Event Heels: Batista, Edge, Randy Orton, Shawn Michaels

Singles Midcard/Jobber Faces: Bobby Lashley, CM Punk, Funaki, Jeff Hardy, Jimmy Wang Yang, Kane, Matt Hardy, Rey Mysterio, Stevie Richards, Super Crazy, Tommy Dreamer, Val Venis, William Regal (more of a tweener...still in authority role)

Singles Midcard/Jobber Heels: Big Daddy V, Carlito, Chavo Guerrero, Elijah Burke, Finlay, Gregory Helms, John Morrison, Kevin Thorn, Matt Striker, Mr. Kennedy, MVP, Santino Marella, Umaga

Reduced Roles: Boogeyman, Great Khali, Ric Flair

Face Tag Teams: Holly & Rhodes, Jesse & Festus, London & Kendrick

Heel Tag Teams: Cade & Murdoch, Deuce & Domino, WGTT
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:51 PM   #25
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I'd keep the following...

WWE World Title
WWE Intercontinental Title
WWE World Tag Team Titles
WWE Womens Title

John Cena
Triple H
HBK
Bobby Lashley
Undertaker
Edge
Batista
Kane
Big Daddy V
CM Punk
MVP
Cade and Murdoch
WGTT
Jesse and Festus
Holly and Rhodes
London and Kendrick
Jeff Hardy
Matt Hardy
Umaga
Santino
Finlay
Rey Mysterio
Ric Flair
Kennedy

I would use the developmental talent as jobbers when needed. I would also keep all the good women wrestlers.
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:47 AM   #26
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And had to fire enough talent to keep just one roster's worth for one tv show (for argument's sake, RAW) then who would you keep, and who would you let go, and why?

Also, what title(s) would you keep, get rid of, merge etc.

I will post mine shortly.
To be honest my fellow Hindu, I'm not exactly sure. I don't watch the wWE regulary enough to really comment. I will say this though.

EVERY single character on *MY* show will have a purpose....a DISTINCT character.....a DISTINCT identity.

Think of all the greatest shows of yester-year. The Simpsons, Seinfield, Full House, ER, etc., etc., etc. You get the idea. EVERY single character was DISCERNIBLE in some way. Each CHARACTER had a purpose.

This is NOT rocket science.

During the Attitude Era, the WWE had almost EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER unique and discernible in some way....something of which caught the interest of the most casual and random fan out there. And no - saying "Kennedaaaay!" or "das not cool!" or some generic cruiserweight with some generic name doing a flip off the turbuckle will NOT draw in fans for the long haul.

The WWE is Sports-Entertainment, but they have to decide which is the heavier of the two. With UFC/MMA on the rise, if the WWE tries to portray itself as more of a SPORT.....they will get burned. If the WWE goes back to its Attitude Era ways however, and focuses MORE on character development, storylines, etc., then they will be fine.

And yes - great wrestling matches CAN and SHOULD definitely exist....as it did in the Attitude era.

To make a long story short - I would release ANYONE who does not have a strong character. "How is this guy going to make me money?" is the ONLY question that Vince should ask himself when assessing whether to keep certain wrestlers or not.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:10 AM   #27
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Main Eventers: (World Title Contenders)
Undertaker
Khali
HHH
HBK
"The Undefeated" Snitsky
Mark Henry
Kane
Big Daddy V
Umaga
Regal
Scott Steiner
Rick Steiner
Sid

Mid Level: (IC title contenders)
MVP
Edge
Matt Hardy
CM Punk
Jeff Hardy
Chavo
Elijah b
Balls Mahoney
John Morrisson
Taylor
Haas
Shelton
Highlanders
Jesse & Festus
Deuce & Domino
Mideon
Vampire Warrior

Are you on crack?! Henry and Khali being mainevent material? ouch!
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Are you on crack?! Henry and Khali being mainevent material? ouch!
THAT'S what you focused on? The man brought back Mideon, Sid and for some reason took the Steiners from TNA. Henry and Khali in the main event is so much better than SNITSKY! I think his list was a joke...I hope it was anyway...I certainly thought it was...
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:28 PM   #29
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Ending the brand split, and I've been saying this since day one, is a bad idea.

Do you really want four hours of Cena, Dancin' Dave, Vince's over rated flavor of the month, Hornsaggle segments, Rey, Mark Henry, Big Daddy V, and Randy Orton?
Do you really want the same roster twice a week (with the idea that ECW's show will just die of the brand split ends)? Do you really want the storylines that we're already bitching about come at us faster?
Or how about Cena as champ for four hours a week? 12,480 minutes a year of "THE CHAMP IS HERE!!!!!"
And don't assume that armchair booking can save the brand split. We're not the money makers for WWE. The masses make the money. The masses wanted Cena as champ, so they got it for over a fucking year.


What they should do is limit the co-branded PPVs so the writers aren't trying to rush a main event every 3 to 5 weeks, and keep the brand split solid. Give each brand their own feel. Even something as small as bringing the CW title back to SmackDown and making ECW's count outs a 20 count.

So yea, go on and let go of over half of WWE's roster. Let's see how good for the wrestler's morale is when they're friends and respected workers are looking for a new job.
The only one's who would make any money if the brand split ended would be TNA because of they're fetish for WWE wrestlers.



Aside from SmackDown eating ECW I don't see the brand split ending. How about we talk about more logical stuff like the next person to save TNA or Bret Hart making his return?
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Everyone on Smackdown/ECW except: Punk, Taker, Morrison, Edge, and Flair, What Few Talented Divas there are - Fired.

Titles Kept:
WWE World Tag Team Titles (Retire the old WWE Tag Belts)
WWE Championship (Triple H Woorld Heavywieght Title Retired)
WWE Intercontiental Championship (US Title Merged With)
WWE Extreme Championship (ECW Title Renamed)
WWE Woman's Championship
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