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Old 02-03-2008, 05:57 AM   #1
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Haha, Brock Lesnar lost to Frank Mir
Will Lesnar take his ball and go home again? Will he continue to better himself until he reaches a level of excellence? Will we see him back in the WWE anytime soon, because Lesnar has actually been a proven success there?

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Old 02-03-2008, 08:13 AM   #2
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Brock's obviously got the size and talent to make it in MMA, but I'm hoping that he gives up and comes back to the WWE. The man was the last real star created by the WWE. He should be in the position that John Cena is currently in.

A Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena feud is legitimately money.
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Old 02-03-2008, 08:18 AM   #3
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Wow, I just watched the match and it was actually exciting the whole way through... of course it didn't go 2 minutes, but in any case I don't usually say that about anything UFC related.

I'm hoping he pursues though and get's decent enough to do well in the UFC because if he returns to wrestling immediately his image won't be so impressive.
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Old 02-03-2008, 08:24 AM   #4
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Wow, I just watched the match and it was actually exciting the whole way through... of course it didn't go 2 minutes, but in any case I don't usually say that about anything UFC related.

I'm hoping he pursues though and get's decent enough to do well in the UFC because if he returns to wrestling immediately his image won't be so impressive.
Well, that's exactly it. If he looks like a tool and then goes back to the WWE, who's it going to help?

He needs to win at least one fight, hurt his knuckles really badly, and say to his agent "No, fuck this, I need to go back to where people only wanted to kick my ass."
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Old 02-03-2008, 08:25 AM   #5
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I hope Brock sticks to UFC. It'll be hilarious watching him get taken down a few pegs every match.
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Brock: Hey Vince, can I come back?

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Old 02-03-2008, 09:08 AM   #7
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LOL Brock got punked.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:21 AM   #9
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I think Brock had an amazing showing though.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:28 AM   #10
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I think Brock had an amazing showing though.
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If it wasn't for a slip up (most likely due to inexperience) I think Brock would've won. He def has a lot to be proud of.
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Spoiler warning ffs.

You wouldn't post 'Cena won the Rumble' the day after.

There are other countries apart from America who have to wait until the next day to watch idiots.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:33 AM   #13
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If it wasn't for a slip up (most likely due to inexperience) I think Brock would've won. He def has a lot to be proud of.
Yeah, he put on a good showing, and there's no real shame in having lost in that bout.

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Spoiler warning ffs.

You wouldn't post 'Cena won the Rumble' the day after.

There are other countries apart from America who have to wait until the next day to watch idiots.

Just to point out, Avenger, there were "Cena Wins" threads in both the wrestling AND casual forums the day after. Or the same night. Whichever.
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I think there was even a couple "CENA WINS" threads the day before the event had begun too.
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Spoiler warning ffs.

You wouldn't post 'Cena won the Rumble' the day after.
Spoiler warning for the next 12 PPVs (at least): Cena Wins.
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Brock looked amateurish. Like a kid who's learning to box and goes in throwing punches without any patience or timing. He deserved to get punished because he lapsed in concentration for a split second while Mir maintained his cool and waited his turn.

Not entirely unimpressive, and I'm looking forward to seeing him improve.
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:39 AM   #18
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If Brock gets a couple more fights in him he's gonna be decent, he just got caught by a way more experienced fighter
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A Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena feud is legitimately money.
If Cena can be one half of a "money" feud, then surely HE is the last real star created by WWE. You can't have a money feud without two "stars" involved.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:04 AM   #20
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Brock didn't respected the submissions.
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Lesnar fought the wrong fight. I mean he was dominating from the get-go, but he kept trying to mat wrestle, which is the wrong thing to do against a submissions expert. He should have let Mir back up every time he took him down, and he would have won the striking game.
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Whoever is saying Lesnar looked like a tool must not have watched the same fight. Lesnar looked pretty damn good out the gate. He almost had Mir knocked the fuck out right away. He lost due to lack of experience. If he works on the basics some more, he will definitely be a force to be wreckoned with.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:36 PM   #23
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One loss and he isn't going to be done with MMA. Not to mention one loss to a former world champion while Brock was in his second pro fight. He showed he has a ton of potential and even in losing, he shut up alot of his harshest critics that thought he was going to be a joke. He took Mir down in 5 seconds and was bashing his head in at 6 seconds. And not surprisingly, he looked like a guy in his second MMA fight. He was reckless and sloppy and it cost him the match.
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:13 PM   #24
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One thing annoying me is that people automatically say he sucks because he lost. I watched, and was impressed. He lost...any smart person who was keeping up with the fight could have said that. But he wasn't some whip who got totally dominated. He had control at the beginning, and just didn't know what to do at one point...which that minor hesitation costing him the match.

I heard afterwards that Brock understands the lost, and will be training harder for his next match, which I feel shows his dedication. Some more training and some more experience, and I think he could reach the top of the division.
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One loss and he isn't going to be done with MMA. Not to mention one loss to a former world champion while Brock was in his second pro fight. He showed he has a ton of potential and even in losing, he shut up alot of his harshest critics that thought he was going to be a joke. He took Mir down in 5 seconds and was bashing his head in at 6 seconds. And not surprisingly, he looked like a guy in his second MMA fight. He was reckless and sloppy and it cost him the match.
Yeah, there wass no shame in this loss. His only glaring flaw is being an amateur. That's easily solved.
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I bet there isn't too many MMA fighters who fight a former heavyweight Champion in thier 2nd ever career fight.
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Most of you don't know shit about MMA, obv..

Lesnar looked really good against a former heavyweight champ and prolly one of the BEST heavyweight Jujitsu fighters of all time.. Mir has one of the best guards in the game and true wrestlers usually have trouble protecting the legs on the ground against Jujitsu guys.. Lesnar should have slowed it down and if he had been more patient and if they hadn't stopped the fight for that punch to the back of the head, he had Mir on shakey legs within the first minute.. He was also able to take him down at will.. Lesnar is gonna be a beast in the heavyweight division but he need much more experience.. And as I said earlier, he was fighting a former UFC HVW Champ not just some jobber they feed to him.. I think it was good for UFC cause Mir looked good getting the win against this new contender making his comeback legit, while Brock dominated most of the fight but got caught in a tricky submission..

Also, if anyone thinks he's one and done, you are retarded.. EVERY fighter loses fight.. EVERY fighter.. Brock said in an interview that if UFC had been the powerhouse it is now, and could have offered him the money he's getting now, there's no way he'd ever have gone into prowrestling out of college..

You guys should stick to discussing fake fighting cause you really have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to the real thing..
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If Lesnar sticks at it and gets a few wins under his belt, and Mir stays strong, Lesnar vs Mir II will probably be worth a few bob in 6 - 12 months. That would be a must-win scenario for Lesnar though.
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No it wouldn't..
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:43 PM   #30
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It would for his reputation and drawing power in MMA.
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For a guy declared "the Next Big Thing" (again!!) impressive showings en route to defeat aren't the way forward.
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His inexperience showed, but his striking looked very good, which I thought was going to be suspect. In given time he is going to develop, and he will be the poster boy for the heavyweight division.
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No it wouldn't..

Chuck Liddell has lost to Rampage Jackson twice and hasn't lost any drawing power.. Same Could be said about Andrei Arlovski vs Tim Sylvia, or Liddell vs Tito or Couture vs Liddell etc etc etc.. Some guys have some other guy's "numbers".. Losing is not that big of a deal in UFC as long as you put on good fights..

Once again, stick to the fake stuff..
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No it wouldn't..

Chuck Liddell has lost to Rampage Jackson twice and hasn't lost any drawing power.. Same Could be said about Andrei Arlovski vs Tim Sylvia, or Liddell vs Tito or Couture vs Liddell etc etc etc.. Some guys have some other guy's "numbers".. Losing is not that big of a deal in UFC as long as you put on good fights..

Once again, stick to the fake stuff..
Those guys already had a rep, dude. Lesnar has yet to win in UFC, good showing or not.
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Brock Lesnar is a former WWE champion, you fool! How much of a rep do you need????
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Seriously though, that fight was not MAKE IT or BREAK IT for Lesnar. He's going to be good.
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Silly me.
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I'm not saying Lesnar won't be a success, I'm sure he will be, and everybody has to win-some, lose-some... agreed. But he HAS to win against formidable opponents in high profile fights, else he'll just be an also-ran or "just another guy".

A second fight against Mir, when he is more experienced and on the up, is a sure bet. But a second loss would be much more damaging than this first one.
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He has had ONE fight..

Mirko Cro Cop is 1-2 in the UFC, do you think his career is over??

UFC is more about having entertaining fights than always winning.. Every fighter loses sometimes.. I mean, one fighter loses every fight.. It goes with the territory of fighting.. I am sure Lesnar will win a bunch of fights in UFC but it was a stretch to think he'd come in, in only his second MMA fight ever and beat a former HVW champ.. He looked really good against him and that's all that matters..
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