Pulling the tights

[Stickman]

Has it ever occured to anybody else that pulling the tights when going for a pin really doesn't do anything? It's not like you get leverage out of it.

[Shaggy]

Its just there to give some people a reason to why there favorite superstar lost. Yes my guy lost but your guy cheated to win. So he is a wimp because he couldnt do it on his own.

[SeanMC]

I always thought it was a bit gay when they do that.It's liek they are tryna see the other guys arse or something.

Yeah, there is absolutely no extra leverage added. Still, it gets the guy heat.

[Corkscrewed]

It's a traditional thing, to my knowledge. Conceptually, it gives leverage (if the tights are tight enough). There's also the idea that a guy might become distracted because his ass his showing and forget to kick out. I dunno.

[PureHatred]

It's wrestling. Try not to examine things too much.

[Innovator]

like corky said, its a tradition thing

like when someone has an abdominal stetch on his opponent, then grabs the rope for "leverage"

[Kane Knight]

Ummm...You're questioning the advantage of tights-grabbing in a sport where one of the most effective moves is the People's Elbow...An elbow drop powered up by a dance.

Where Hogan's legdrop is considered a powerful finisher.

Where people regularly, however, get back up from steel chair attacks (When it's appropriate storywise).

Isn't it a little odd that THIS is the thing to make you go ""?

[SeanMC]

^true lol

[PureHatred]

Yeah...if you think too hard about why anyone would lay there for like 30 seconds, and eventually get beaten by The Worm..which is essentially the most hyped falling chop in history...it'll blow your mind.

[Corkscrewed]

Please note that Scotty's never really beaten people with the worm a lot. It just happens occassionally.


And on a side note, since when could jobbers like Hardcore Holly kick out of Book Ends???

[faust34]

Originally Posted by Corkscrewed Please note that Scotty's never really beaten people with the worm a lot. It just happens occassionally. And on a side note, since when could jobbers like Hardcore Holly kick out of Book Ends???

When heels use their finisher, faces tend to kick out more (see Heel Stone Cold), unless your an uber satan hell, like HHH.

[PureHatred]

Wait, so Holly was the face last night? I couldn't tell because of the crowd's lack of interest.

[faust34]

Originally Posted by PureHatred Wait, so Holly was the face last night? I couldn't tell because of the crowd's lack of interest.

Face is a word for a talented, over, wrestler, I prefer the term piss break jobber. But yes, much like Bradshaw and Billy Gun, Hardcore Holly is still using his WWE employment anniversary gift, a ME to upper mid card push certificate.

[MVP]

Pulling the tights is about as effective as putting your legs on the ropes while pinning someone.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Corkscrewed Please note that Scotty's never really beaten people with the worm a lot. It just happens occassionally.

Which is why I only mentioned the other ones, especially when Soctty's worm had a like 0 for 1000 streak for quite some time.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by PureHatred Wait, so Holly was the face last night? I couldn't tell because of the crowd's lack of interest.

Bob Holly was SUPPOSED to be the face.

The problem is, Booker's liked and isn't really established as a Heel, whereas nobody cares about Bob Holly (Or at least, nobody likes him). The results will end up being kinda mixed. Hell, I'd cheer almost anyone against Holly.

[The Mackem]

I think it's got more to do with the code of wrestling. Some people prefer advanced warnings when their ass is going to be over exposed on TV. When they do this without warning, this is when they get irrate and JR starts cursing the gods.

[Kane Knight]

There's a lot of ineffective shit in wrestling.

Pro Wrestling isn't about the best moves, it's about the best looking moves.

[The Mackem]

Kane Knight stop spreading your baseless rumours over the internet. It's not big and it's not clever.

[Stickman]

Originally Posted by MVP Pulling the tights is about as effective as putting your legs on the ropes while pinning someone.

I could accept the foot on the ropes as believable because all the body weight could be on the opponent. The tight pulling is just completely unbelievable.

[MVP]

Originally Posted by Stickman I could accept the foot on the ropes as believable because all the body weight could be on the opponent. The tight pulling is just completely unbelievable.

Yeah, but having your feet on the ropes doesn't prevent the opponents from kicking out anymore than a regular pin.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by MVP Yeah, but having your feet on the ropes doesn't prevent the opponents from kicking out anymore than a regular pin.

Indeed.

In fact, if I were to bet, it'd be that it was easier to get out, because the cover with your feet on the ropes would lead to less stability.

Frankly, I'd be more willing to accept the tights-grabbing thing. I mean, maybe wedgies ruin your concentration or something...

[Savio]

Maybe he's afraid he'd come out of his tights

Originally Posted by MVP In fact, if I were to bet, it'd be that it was easier to get out, because the cover with your feet on the ropes would lead to less stability.

Unless you're in the corner with your legs spread.

(That sounds sick.)

[Rock Bottom]

I wasn't able to make it to Raw due to illness but my friend went and said he enjoyed the show, I watched the event from home and was very offended by something that just doesn't seem right in the business. So I wrote a commentary and have posted it on other forums expressing my opinion, I wanted to drop it by here because much like thesmartmarks.com the fans here at TPWW are about equil on opinion.

~This commentary is strictly from my own point of view. People who read this might not agree, the party mentioned might not agree or simply would disreguard this message, the web master of this site and board might use his right to censor of remove this post. Those who know about me would understand my passion on things that are unique to certian people.. I might even receive messages of ingnorance, stupidity, and hatred for my mark like approach but after all this my view and no one else's.~


I don't know about you guys here but unlike half the people who actually still visit this web site. I still support The Tightpuller Shane Douglas as one of the better performers in this business. First time I heard another wrestler besides Sting get labeled as a company tightpuller it was believable because Sting was loyal to WCW throughout it all. I respect Steve Borden for what he has and continues to do in this business but he's pretty much done. But right now, tonight as Raw in on the air. I have sat back tonight through out this program and it has made me sick to my damn stomach! You would think that Ric Flair would have learned to finally respect Shane Douglas and wouldn't mock him in any way what so ever.. But now this has gone to damn far! I might get chastised by people on this board for my markish views.. I feel that this has to happen!

Triple H has pissed off almost every Shane Douglas fan by pulling tights! That's right, right here in my hometown Triple H declared himself a tightpuller like he's the only man in this sport that has pulled some tights. Sure Triple H has been in the WWE/F since 1995. Sure Triple H has been Vince McMahon's b*tch since day one. And yeah he's actually married to the daughter of the boss.. Triple H doesn't want it to happen and Vince McMahon sure as hell doesn't want it to happen.. But there has never been a time more needing than now. I believe that the time has come for Shane Douglas to reconsider.. Personally I think Triple H needs to learn a lesson in not how to screw with things he doesn't understand. You know.. Troy Martin probably doesn't check out this site hardly anymore and that's fine but if he does come across this and in particular this post..

I want to be the first person in his fan base to be vocal about this.. I challenge the man who has transcended this business to the route of extreme in a promotion that meant nothing at first. A promotion that was a subculture if you will, of the NWA establishment on the east coast. Shane Douglas, the character helped to build ECW. There's no doubt! And I know there's a little friction between Vince and Troy. You hear about it on every radio, Internet, and transcripted interview around the world. And I hope this is one of those nights that he rarely tapes WWE programing because I think now's the time for that phone to ring.. The call to be made for negotiations.. Petitions, E-Mails, whatever! The blatant disregard of respect for an icon like figure that helped the fans look deeper into the business than before, the one figure who made it possible to mold a prototypical blue print for the piece of sh*t that invades our TV's every Monday night..

I understand that Shane is one to full fill obligations made to promotions and that takes not just someone who's collecting pay, loving the work he does, but it takes class. And class is what's missing from a lot of people in the WWE. Now I could keep ranting on and on and sound like that crappy Dean Douglas gimmick but I won't do that. I am above that! The reason why I make this personal invitation or challenge to the performer known as Shane Douglas is to find out if the many endless arrays of shoots he's pulled out against the WWE are nothing more than a hyped up way of getting over and getting Vince to give in and call him for work, or is he willing to attempt to vent this frustration he talks about. To attempt to prove that those who he seldom critiques and put it to use. Make good on his hype. I think it's time for Shane Douglas to put Triple H in his place.

A Tightpuller Fan,
Travis Smith
Ohio

3-30-04
Get this.. My friend Chris went to Raw last night on my behalf with a "Where's the REAL tight pulling?!" sign in order to put over my site and Shane Douglas and WWE security ordered him to hand over the sign! This is a ****ing outrage!! That the fans of this sport/entertainment world have to suffer by bringing in their own home made signs to put over the business and have some dick ruin their fun. I hope Flair.. Triple H.. Vince McMahon and the entire WWE got the damn message because the shit stops now!

[asphyXy]

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Savior Maybe he's afraid he'd come out of his tights Unless you're in the corner with your legs spread. (That sounds sick.)

When did MVP say that line?

Anyways, in the corner with your legs spread, you've still got less stability (I would wager) than if you had full contact with the ground. The incline might provide some increased resistance, but only in one direction (and it should be easier to roll...Should).

Again, bottom line, it's kinda pointless to debate something like this, since wrestling isn't going on what's real...

[tucsonspeed6]

Rocky, you are hilarious man!

[nelioneil]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight Ummm...You're questioning the advantage of tights-grabbing in a sport where one of the most effective moves is the People's Elbow...An elbow drop powered up by a dance. Where Hogan's legdrop is considered a powerful finisher. Where people regularly, however, get back up from steel chair attacks (When it's appropriate storywise). Isn't it a little odd that THIS is the thing to make you go ""?

Dude...this is wrestling. What do you expect

[Kane Knight]

Wasn't that the entire point of my post there?

[loopydate]

Originally Posted by The Mackem Kane Knight stop spreading your baseless rumours over the internet. It's not big and it's not clever.

But...it's on the Internet. It must be tr--

Man, I need new material.

[V]

LOL @ RB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Juan]

ugh