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Old 11-16-2009, 01:20 AM   #1
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The best TV series of the ’00s (The Onion A.V. Club)
http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-b...e-00s,35256/1/

Pretty great list imo.

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Old 11-16-2009, 01:33 AM   #2
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1 and 2 are also my personal top two

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Like a lot of shows on that list, specially #20

No Entourage though? One of my favorite shows. No Family Guy either?
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:47 AM   #4
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Fair few of my faves on there. Good list.

Still don't rate The Wire as much.

Think The Sopranos deserved the top spot. That or LOST.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:52 AM   #6
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Like a lot of shows on that list, specially #20

No Entourage though? One of my favorite shows. No Family Guy either?
@ #20

Family Guy started in 1999 so I guess technically doesn't count. (edit: nah Sopranos was '99 too, dunno)

Was gonna say Oz but that was from like 1997, damn.

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Da Ali G Show
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True, True, it was '99.
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The West Wing at number 30. Fuck right off, easily top 3 shows ever.
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Battlestar galactica should have been in the top 10
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LOL. Lost? Seriously? In the top ten?
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:28 AM   #11
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Eastbound and Down is pretty good, if you're into Danny McBride kind of humour. Got into it last night.
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Wow, out of that entier list I've only ever watched one thing. That being Futurama.

Though I've never really heard of Freaks And Geeks, Friday Night Lights, Firefly, Big Love, Tim And Eric Awesome Show Great Job!, Undeclared, The Venture Bros., Flight Of The Conchords, Eastbound & Down and Wonder Showzen.

The rest, I've heard of before, but I've never watched them.
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LOL. Lost? Seriously? In the top ten?
No matter how you look at it, it basically turned network TV upside down

But yeah, great list. Top 10 are spot on
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I know it's only in it's second season, but i'd definitely add Sons of Anarchy. That show is amazing, and arguably the best drama on TV right now.

It's Always Sunny should definitely be on there too. Easily the funniest show on TV, and probably one of the best 5 sitcoms ever made.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:19 PM   #17
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:26 PM   #18
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Would've included West Wing, Deadwood, Six Feet Under and The Shield higher than Lost personally, but it's all personal choice I guess.


The Wire and Sopranos being the top 2 is definitely not open to debate though.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:29 PM   #19
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Glad to see Venture Bros. getting the proper respect.

But where the fuck is Planet Earth, and why is it not number 1?
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Would've included West Wing, Deadwood, Six Feet Under and The Shield higher than Lost personally, but it's all personal choice I guess.


The Wire and Sopranos being the top 2 is definitely not open to debate though.
Six Feet Under and The Shield are on par with LOST imo, but Deadwood? come on.
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Don't get me wrong, I really like Lost, but I think of the shows listed, it is the most flawed.

Just personal preference at the end of the day
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:06 PM   #22
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I would absolutely put West Wing in my top five. I don't see how you can put it behind shows that haven't concluded their run yet. Those shows could still have a terrible ending.
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Would've included West Wing, Deadwood, Six Feet Under and The Shield higher than Lost personally, but it's all personal choice I guess.


The Wire and Sopranos being the top 2 is definitely not open to debate though.
Nah West Wing can push Sopranos spot for sure.
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Aye, I would think 24 would be placed somewhere on that list.
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Geez I think this list is rather horrible tbh and explains why I don't watch as much tv as I used to. There's a few in there I'm sure they just put on there in hopes to help DVD sales since they only lasted all of a couple seasons. I know it's well past it's prime but the Simpsons should have been on there without a shadow of a doubt and it's ratings are probably still decent too.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:10 PM   #28
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Bit upset at no Scrubs and 24 but decent list. Agree with placing shows that haven't finished or barely lasted 3 years ahead of older shows since they never had the chance to have "down" years or potential to go downhill after a while.

Just noticed no South Park either since they counted shows that started in late 1990s in the list.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:27 PM   #30
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Honestly, Jack Bauer would kill every motherfucker on that list.
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I'm surprised that Scrubs didn't make it. I mean, How I Met Your Mother? At least Two-and-a-Half Men didn't make the list. Glad to see some cult favourites I've been searching out, like Wonder Showzen make the list. I think Dexter should have been placed higher.

The list started off perfectly, and then got progressively more random, I feel.
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I only watch 4 of those shows

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Decent list, but as many have said, some glaring ommissions.

Scrubs, Oz, Simpsons, South Park, Family Guy. Can understand UK shows like Peep Show, Phoenix Nights, League of Gentlemen not being there though.
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Hold up. Was The X-Files on there!?
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Hold up. Was The X-Files on there!?
Nope.

List ended up being filled up by a lot of new shows (1-2 years and going on) or shows that barely lasted 3 seasons and ended up getting voted based on potential without the normal decline a series gets as it gets older.
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I guess not as it started in 89.
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Nope.

List ended up being filled up by a lot of new shows (1-2 years and going on) or shows that barely lasted 3 seasons and ended up getting voted based on potential without the normal decline a series gets as it gets older.
Woah.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the inclusion of shows like Arrested Development or even Veronica Mars. But at the expense of a seminal show like The X-Files!?
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