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Old 03-21-2006, 10:25 PM   #1
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:27 PM   #2
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:29 PM   #3
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On a scale of Awesome to Godlike, how do you rate John Cena's championship?
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:05 AM   #6
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Guys have you noticed that Vermat has yet to grace this page?

Does this mean someone has done the humane thing and banned the pleb?

If not may I suggest that this be done.

Or that all those half intelligent posters out there just completely ignore anything he posts!

I mean come on! There are some guys on here who have great opinions and make intellectual posts that I love to read. All of this talent (for lack of a better word) is being wasted on this ridiculous CUNT (for lack of a better word)
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:10 PM   #7
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Guys have you noticed that Vermat has yet to grace this page?

Does this mean someone has done the humane thing and banned the pleb?

If not may I suggest that this be done.

Or that all those half intelligent posters out there just completely ignore anything he posts!

I mean come on! There are some guys on here who have great opinions and make intellectual posts that I love to read. All of this talent (for lack of a better word) is being wasted on this ridiculous CUNT (for lack of a better word)
This thread was make it or break it for Vermacelli... unfortunately the result was break it for him.
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:27 PM   #8
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Guys have you noticed that Vermat has yet to grace this page?

Does this mean someone has done the humane thing and banned the pleb?

If not may I suggest that this be done.

Or that all those half intelligent posters out there just completely ignore anything he posts!

I mean come on! There are some guys on here who have great opinions and make intellectual posts that I love to read. All of this talent (for lack of a better word) is being wasted on this ridiculous CUNT (for lack of a better word)
No, he's not banned yet, but when he sees this post he'll play the "I have a life" card.
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Old 03-22-2006, 04:46 PM   #9
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If Vermaat doesn't admit finally that he contradicts himself after the following example, I will give up. This guy is too much:

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lol !!! nWo were HEELS. HEELS are meant to be hated. When I said that everyone hated them, I meant hated them as heels.
When a crowd truly hates a heel, they don't "cheer" them. Thus, the blatent contradiction of your two statements. THe FACT is that the crowd bood their asses off at the NWO by the end. Was it because they were still effective heels? Partially. Was it because fans were sick to death of them? Partially. Either way the fans BOO'D them. Fans did not "cheer" them as you claim. You argue and contradict your own point.....of course when you said "cheering" them, I "misunderstood" you right?

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Edge won the title and the ratings went up. TRUE. Because of Edge? In a way, TRUE. Because Edge won the title? FALSE. The ratings went up because Edge promised LIVE SEX.
Listen, the live sex was ONE night. Edge had higher ratings than Cena THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF HIM HAVING THE BELT. So this flushes your argument right down the toilet.

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It's not based on my opinions, it's based on my experience. And guess what, your side of the argument has to be abandonded too then, because you don't have any better source then I do. You too are making judgements why people did this and that. At least my theory plays out logically. I talked to a good pool of people and granted, wCw people were not all like them, but they were a cut away representation of wCw fans. Now, what you said about the issue does not even have THIS backing.
For one, I don't need to ask anyone's opinion on what WCW was like because I actually watched it. You didn't, so no...you couldn't possibly have based your opinion on "your experience." Another thing, the source I was getting my information from is a little DVD called "The Monday Night Wars." This talks in detail about why WCW went out of business. This CLEARLY is not a better source for the argument then your "theory" based on interviewing a few teenagers. Damn, what was I thinking?
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Old 03-22-2006, 04:56 PM   #10
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Listen, the live sex was ONE night. Edge had higher ratings than Cena THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF HIM HAVING THE BELT. So this flushes your argument right down the toilet.
FALSE.

By the end of his reign, Edge's Raw ratings were the SAME as Cena's. This was addressed, and several people even admitted they were wrong when they saw the REAL Neilsen ratings at that point.

It's bullshit to say that they stayed up, because they were back down to their original ratings over a course of THREE FUCKING WEEKS.
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:44 AM   #11
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I can't believe I missed this thread! I've missed out on some good discussion. Alright, first I'm going to try and take some new approaches to the old arguments Vermaat presented:

You claim Akio can't talk. Why? I've heard reports that he can talk fine to people before and after shows. He's doing a promo segment in ROH soon. I think it's a part of the Straight Shootin' Series, or something.

You claim the cruiserweights are lazy? That is why Paul London VISIBLY puts 110% effort into every move he does? Watch his dropsault in the Fatal Fourway Match this past Velocity. The guy really wanted to get it noticed.

Another way to disprove your crazy lazy theory is to simply point out that the cruiserweights are stuck on Velocity. If pulling out "innovative" moves means they get World Title shots, don't you think they would have done it by now?

You want evidence that the WWE scripts the cruiserweights' matches for them? Paul London's standing shooting star press. I am not a trained professional wrestler, but wouldn't a standing SSP be harder to pull of due to the lack of time to adjust? If London had a choice between the visually impressive leap into the air before graciously landing on his opponent which impressive momentum, or flipping pointlessly for a two count looking move, which do you think he would choose?

Sliced Bread #2 is more innovative than the 619. The 619 has been done for years as a taunt. Hardly innovative. The Shiranui looks like it could kill someone.

Every match these guys get, they try to get the fans to take notice of them, but you are just too blind to see it. That is not an insult, that is fact. As for why the WWE would limit these guys? Because they don't want two little guys trained by Shawn Michaels showing up Triple H or John Cena in terms of ring ability. Sad, but true.

You say that Randy Orton is a bastard for saying what he said. The guy probably has no control over what he says. I doubt he would choose to say it. I'm not trying to bash Rey Mysterio here, because I am not close to the Guerrero family and have no clue what they wanted, but I find Rey equally at fault (if there is fault) as Randy Orton. You can't accuse one and not the other.

If Rey Mysterio had refused the angle, he would have been fine. The media was all over Eddie Guerrero's death, so Rey doing something with morals attached to it and leaving the company would not have looked good for the WWE.

Now for your John Cena arguement:

I could sit here all day and point out the same thing other people have, but I am simply going to say this. Assuming your "entire arenas are at the mercy of a small group of fans" is true (and that is a huge unrealistic assumption to make), then don't you think it would be smart for the WWE to target these small groups?

One of the first things you learn about business is "cool hunting", and how you target your product at people who can persuade other people that your product is "cool". If the "cool" thing is to boo John Cena, then the WWE would be smart to turn him heel. Fighting the fans which "control everything" assuming they exist on such a powerful scale as you say (I'm not doubting their are guys who start "Cena Sucks" just because they think it's funny), is stupid, because in reality you're only preventing your business from making money.

I don't see your logic in keeping John Cena pushed as the top face of the company, I really don't.

You mention "TRADITIONAL". I don't know what you mean. Are you assuming there is only one way to build a face? Are you trying to say that the Rock 'n' Wrestling era was the only true era, and that the Attitude era was all wrong? Did it ever occur to you that fans broke away from "TRADITIONAL" for a reason, in the first place?

My uncle stopped watching wrestling a while ago "because Stone Cold Steve Austin didn't drink beer anymore". My cousin stopped because it "got shit". Are they not TRUE WRESTLING FANS? I fail to see your logic there.

1) They stopped watching for reasons, not because it stopped being cool. Both stopped watching after the "cool" fans left.

2) It should not be the fans job to change themselves to fit the WWE product. The WWE product should change to fit the fans.

Your logic says that if Coca Cola stops selling soft drinks it is because of the consumer, and that they are not worth the company's attention. Your logic says no investigation or no modification to the product is needed.
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:54 AM   #13
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Your logic says that if Coca Cola stops selling soft drinks it is because of the consumer, and that they are not worth the company's attention. Your logic says no investigation or no modification to the product is needed.
To be fair, if you like WWE's programming right now (And some people love the wigger John Cena who makes poopy jokes and sucks up to the fans), why would you argue they should change?

Assuming he is a legitimate tardboy, of course.
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:57 AM   #15
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Come on, this guy's a wrestling forum Godsend. Even the most retarded poster or n00biest newb can trash this guy. Who would be pissed off at that?
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Old 03-22-2006, 05:09 PM   #17
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He was using that before they even had ratings on Raw. He was using it on the first Raw after he won. He was using the figures of PPV rates and WWE.com visits.
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Also, that first Raw was legitimately highly rated, which probably counts for the highest rating in 5 years.
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Also, that first Raw was legitimately highly rated, which probably counts for the highest rating in 5 years.
Do you know if the ratings were higher than Cena's the Raw after the Live Sex episode? That's really an important factor. If they're higher, that still blows the "Live Sex Only" theory out the window.
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Do you know if the ratings were higher than Cena's the Raw after the Live Sex episode? That's really an important factor. If they're higher, that still blows the "Live Sex Only" theory out the window.
It went down a bit, but it was still higher than Cena's, yes. But one week later, it was back to the pre-NYR ratings.

The problem is, you're looking at like a .6 difference, and to lose that in 3 weeks kind of disproves the notion that Edge was a better draw.
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It went down like a full point, but it was still higher than Cena's, yes. But one week later, it was back to the pre-NYR ratings.
Still, that's 2 weeks higher than Cena and shows that WWE's product as a whole did nothing to keep the viewers when they had them back. You can't blame Edge for that because his ratings never fell below Cena's. I'm really suprised that WWE was willing to put that "Highest Rated Champion in the Past Five Years" promo on TV, because that makes HHH look bad too. Should be interesting to see the ratings after Mania when HHH has the strap.
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Still, that's 2 weeks higher than Cena and shows that WWE's product as a whole did nothing to keep the viewers when they had them back. You can't blame Edge for that because his ratings never fell below Cena's. I'm really suprised that WWE was willing to put that "Highest Rated Champion in the Past Five Years" promo on TV, because that makes HHH look bad too. Should be interesting to see the ratings after Mania when HHH has the strap.
2 weeks higher than Cena, at least one by a margin of like .2 or .3 (I don't remember, they don't keep their ratings up for long), the other after which live sex was promised.

Further, not being worse than a face who couldn't get people to cheer him isn't saying much for your own star power. Edge ended up with the same ratings as the man who couldn't draw a face pop to save his life. HAd they stayed even a little above Cena's before they swapped it back to him, you'd have a decent point, but within a week, ratings were almost back to normal.
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January 2, 2006 (3.7)
January 9, 2006 (4.3) <-- First RAW with Edge as champ, Live Sex episode
January 16, 2006 (4.3)
January 23, 2006 (4.5)
January 30, 2006 (4.5) <-- After Royal Rumble when Cena regained title
February 6, 2006 (4.5)
February 16, 2006 (3.3) <-- Monday had the Dog Show
February 20, 2006 (4.0)
February 27, 2006 (4.0)
March 6, 2006 (4.0)
March 13, 2006 (4.1)

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January 2, 2006 (3.7)
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February 16, 2006 (3.3) <-- Monday had the Dog Show
February 20, 2006 (4.0)
February 27, 2006 (4.0)
March 6, 2006 (4.0)
March 13, 2006 (4.1)

Source: Wrestling Information Archive
Fucking A, those NUMBERS are WRONG. Retards keep posting them, but they conflicted with the ratings as put forth by Neilsen Media.

March 13, for example, is listed on Nielsen's site as a 3.4. It's on their site. You can't take the ratings off another site more seriously. Sit down. Shut the fuck up. And go. The fuck. Away.
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Yeah, neck injuries could be worse. And piledrivers could have summoned forth the devil, who would banish all wrestlers to the ninth circle of Hell...
I do not see wrestling as being more dangerous now. It appears to be that the new regulations have reduced the number of serious injuries.

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Also, when there neck injuries go down, they shouldn't simply transfer to other body parts. Back injuries are up, and can be just as serious.
I haven't noticed back injuries being up. If they are, then moves should be regulated more.

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Vermaat, you gotta stick to your guns one way or another. You say Vince cares, then you say some wrestlers train for riskier moves and are thus allowed to do them. That makes less sense than you think. If it was all about care, woudln't Vince just eliminate dangerous bumps period? After all, the best way to fight an injury is to prevent it (just as you say).
Yes it is, but some moves can be trained for. This is wrestling and everything is dangerous in WWE. However, some moves you can train for to make them a lot more safe, like, the spot that was talked about. However other moves, no matter how much you train for still have a really high risk. There is a threshold for how dangerous a move is an some moves BREAK that thresholD.

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On a scale of Awesome to Godlike, how do you rate John Cena's championship?
Awesome. He is not Stone Cold yet.

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I mean come on! There are some guys on here who have great opinions and make intellectual posts that I love to read. All of this talent (for lack of a better word) is being wasted on this ridiculous CUNT (for lack of a better word)
I think you have some homework to do for your 6th grade class kid.

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You claim Akio can't talk. Why? I've heard reports that he can talk fine to people before and after shows. He's doing a promo segment in ROH soon. I think it's a part of the Straight Shootin' Series, or something.
He obviously wasn't talking in the WWE. And there's a difference between talking to people and talking to huge crowds because when you're just talking to a few people it's different. It is easier to talk to one person with a camera then a large crowd. Also, I am interested how he performs in his segment in roh. Now that he is in a small indy fed, I think he has decided to improve. A lot of guys do and get back in the WWE like Palumbo.

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You claim the cruiserweights are lazy? That is why Paul London VISIBLY puts 110% effort into every move he does? Watch his dropsault in the Fatal Fourway Match this past Velocity. The guy really wanted to get it noticed.

Another way to disprove your crazy lazy theory is to simply point out that the cruiserweights are stuck on Velocity. If pulling out "innovative" moves means they get World Title shots, don't you think they would have done it by now?
I do not see 110% effort. It was good, but it was not Mysterio level of effort.

Yes, they are put on Velocity because WWE can't put them on other shows all the time. Sometimes they are on SD, sometimes velocity. And just being innovative is not going to give you a world title shot. You have to be innovative, good in the ring, get a good reaction and have a great character.

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You want evidence that the WWE scripts the cruiserweights' matches for them? Paul London's standing shooting star press.
Actually the standing SSP is more impressive because less people do it.

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Sliced Bread #2 is more innovative than the 619.
No way, Slice Bread #2 is a dudley dog, it was done before. 619 was not done in the WWE before mysterio.

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Because they don't want two little guys trained by Shawn Michaels showing up Triple H or John Cena
Then why allow Rey to do the same?

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You say that Randy Orton is a bastard for saying what he said. The guy probably has no control over what he says.
Orton could not say it. Same argument that you use for Mysterio, except I don't see anything wrong in what Mysterio said.

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I could sit here all day and point out the same thing other people have, but I am simply going to say this. Assuming your "entire arenas are at the mercy of a small group of fans" is true (and that is a huge unrealistic assumption to make), then don't you think it would be smart for the WWE to target these small groups?
No, because these guys are TROUBLEMAKERS. If WWE tries to target them, then they will boo everything WWE throws at them and screw the company for fun. These fans don't know what they want, except that they want to screw the company with their reaction.

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You mention "TRADITIONAL". I don't know what you mean. Are you assuming there is only one way to build a face? Are you trying to say that the Rock 'n' Wrestling era was the only true era, and that the Attitude era was all wrong? Did it ever occur to you that fans broke away from "TRADITIONAL" for a reason, in the first place?
Attitude is fine, but I think TRADITIONAL works well as well. I am not saying it was the only true era, but it is the most down to the basics way of doing things and I think that with all these characters we had, it's time to go to the TRADITIONAL way. Fans didn't break away, WWE changed the product in an experiment.

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My uncle stopped watching wrestling a while ago "because Stone Cold Steve Austin didn't drink beer anymore". My cousin stopped because it "got shit". Are they not TRUE WRESTLING FANS? I fail to see your logic there.
Yes they are not true wrestling fans because they stopped watching for reasons that don't have anything to do with W-R-E-S-T-L-I-N-G

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Your logic says that if Coca Cola stops selling soft drinks it is because of the consumer, and that they are not worth the company's attention. Your logic says no investigation or no modification to the product is needed
But that is a different type of product than the WWE. And if people stop watching WWE, then yes, WWE needs to investigate why and modify. However, people are watching the WWE right now and I think it's at it's best that it's been for a while, so no, right now, no change is needed.

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When a crowd truly hates a heel, they don't "cheer" them. Thus, the blatent contradiction of your two statements. THe FACT is that the crowd bood their asses off at the NWO by the end. Was it because they were still effective heels? Partially. Was it because fans were sick to death of them? Partially. Either way the fans BOO'D them. Fans did not "cheer" them as you claim. You argue and contradict your own point.....of course when you said "cheering" them, I "misunderstood" you right?
Big deal I made a typo. By cheered I meant that they Booed, so I put the wrong word down.

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Listen, the live sex was ONE night. Edge had higher ratings than Cena THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF HIM HAVING THE BELT. So this flushes your argument right down the toilet.
This point has been proven false for one thing and any small changes in ratings following that are because people wanted to see Edge do more crazy things like the live sex segment again so they kept watching to see if he would do more live sex.

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For one, I don't need to ask anyone's opinion on what WCW was like because I actually watched it. You didn't, so no...you couldn't possibly have based your opinion on "your experience." Another thing, the source I was getting my information from is a little DVD called "The Monday Night Wars." This talks in detail about why WCW went out of business. This CLEARLY is not a better source for the argument then your "theory" based on interviewing a few teenagers. Damn, what was I thinking?
Face it. If WWE was not there, no matter how bad WCW got it would be there. And many of the mistakes they did were due to doing what they thought the fans wanted them to do like I've said before. Thus my argument is valid.
 
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Awesome. He is not Stone Cold yet.
Funny you keep mentioning him in the same breath as Stone Cold. Your whole "theory" about Cena and the basis of this thread is that WWE needs to make him more invincible. You want him to go on a "Goldberg" like streak. You claim that people don't like Cena because he seems weak after losing to Edge. You claim that if he loses, WWE will start to fall from the top. The HUGE flaw in your logic involves Stone Cold. He managed to get total fan approval and turned face BY LOSING to Bret Hart at Mania 13. Thus this makes your theory total bullshit.


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No, because these guys are TROUBLEMAKERS. If WWE tries to target them, then they will boo everything WWE throws at them and screw the company for fun. These fans don't know what they want, except that they want to screw the company with their reaction.
Listen, did you watch SNME? Your theory on peer pressure goes out the window with the simple fact that people that boo Cena DO IT SIMULTANIOUSLY! It's not a slow, peer pressure inducing boo that builds up strenght like fans starting "the wave." One of the biggest face pops of the night was HHH giving Cena the Pedigree. Those aren't "troublemakers", those are fans that genuinly don't like Cena. Accept it and quit making excuses.

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But that is a different type of product than the WWE. And if people stop watching WWE, then yes, WWE needs to investigate why and modify. However, people are watching the WWE right now and I think it's at it's best that it's been for a while, so no, right now, no change is needed.
People HAVE stopped watching. This has been pointed out intelligently to you by numerous posters. Ratings are way down from what they used to be. But again, you discard ALL OF OUR OPINIONS and facts. You think it's "best" right now because you're a Cena Mark. No change is needed? That's not what you said in your original post when you created this thread. Make up your fucking mind!



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Big deal I made a typo. By cheered I meant that they Booed, so I put the wrong word down.
Again, another bullshit excuse to avoid admitting you were wrong. If that's the case, then you've made alot of "typo's" throughout this entire thread.


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This point has been proven false for one thing and any small changes in ratings following that are because people wanted to see Edge do more crazy things like the live sex segment again so they kept watching to see if he would do more live sex.
Hey, I admitted I was wrong (See how that's done.)...and ironically it's because I took WWE's word "as fact." That doesn't change the fact that you're full of shit. Are you psychic? Did you tap into the minds of thousands of people to get that conclusion? Again, you quote this "mysterious power" of yours as if it's a fact and speak for thousands...BY GOD THOUSANDS..of the WWE's fans.



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Face it. If WWE was not there, no matter how bad WCW got it would be there. And many of the mistakes they did were due to doing what they thought the fans wanted them to do like I've said before. Thus my argument is valid.
FACE IT, your argument is not valid to anyone but you. Again, you're arguing against DOCUMENTED FACTS on a DVD regarding this subject!! These are actual WWE employees (including Vince) and former WCW employees telling what exactly happened. At NO TIME in that DVD when people are explaining why WCW went out of business do they mention your theory. NO WHERE on that DVD is it mentioned that WCW messed up because "they were doing what they thought the fans wanted them to do." Do you understand that? Do you understand that simple fact AUTOMATICALLY MEANS YOU ARE WRONG? Yet, you ignore all this and continue to argue that your "theory" is correct. What the fuck is wrong with you, seriously? When you continue to argue against documented facts, events, wrestler interviews, etc. and insist that you are correct, that really hurts your credibility in any discussion PERIOD.

Here's an example of what you are doing Vermaat:

You are a huge fan of basketball Team "A". Team "B" hits a game winning shot at the buzzer to win the game. You argue with us that your "theory" and "logic" tells you that the shot by Team "B" wasn't good, because then you'd have to admit and accept the fact that your team lost. In your own mind, your team NEVER loses...so "logically", in spite of what was broadcast on ESPN and in the newspapers...you claim your theory is correct and is fact.

That's what you do and that's why you piss so many people off.
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LOL. Yeah, wrestling's safer without those moves. Despite a serious change in injuries, and no level of injury difference between spot wrestlers and "safe" wrestlers.
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EDIT: Ha ha ha ha ha. Holy shit. I lose. I just checked it up. So why the hell do they spike the ratings like that then?
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EDIT: Ha ha ha ha ha. Holy shit. I lose. I just checked it up. So why the hell do they spike the ratings like that then?
Uh, to make the WWE look good? Duh...
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