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Old 05-13-2006, 10:23 PM   #1
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I think ports would hurt Wii. Developers would be forced to come up with a gimmick to support the controller. I joked about doing knife edged chops with the thing and all, but it wouldn't work altogether.

Still, DoR3 playable with a GCN controller solves all of that (as the new Smash Bros. uses the old controllers, too).
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Old 05-13-2006, 10:27 PM   #2
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Not every game needs to take advantage of the Wii's gimmick (not every N64 game used the Rumble Pak). The remote can be used like a standard gaming controller, too. No reason they couldn't port SVR07 and have it controlled that way.
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Yeah they could have it work with the GC controler like the new smash bros will.
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Old 05-14-2006, 10:15 AM   #4
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Come on, you can't have a big game and ignore the gimmick! That'd be like HALO being offline only! Or Animal Crossing without WiFi (Still yet to see why this gay-ass "online" was considered amazing)! Or A PS2 game that doesn't use the HDD...Okay, bad example.
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Old 05-18-2006, 12:35 PM   #13
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Page 11?! Wow, what can I say that probably hasn't already been said.

From what I've seen, SVR 07 looks very impressive. If WWE aren't gonna put enough effort into their Wii or X-Box 360 games, it'd be better if they ported SVR 07[which they already are doing for 360].

I just hope the create-a-wrestler and season mode are just as good[if not, leagues better] than in previous SD games. The season[s] in SVR & SVR 06 were ok, but, a bit repetitive. I hope THQ/Yukes will take a more roleplaying type approach to this year's Season/Story mode[whatever they'll call it].

Graphics look amazing, I'm just wonderin' how well the PS2 graphics will be done[that is to say, if they'll be equally as impressive as the 360 and PS3 specs].
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Old 05-19-2006, 02:07 AM   #19
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I'd say a decent amount of effort was in the last GCN WWE game DoR2, it has the best wrestling engine of that generation (better than SvR06). It took 'em years to get it right, though.

The Xbox wrestling games are embarrassing examples of giving a license to the wrong dev team.
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Old 05-19-2006, 03:48 AM   #20
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I'd say a decent amount of effort was in the last GCN WWE game DoR2, it has the best wrestling engine of that generation (better than SvR06). It took 'em years to get it right, though.

The Xbox wrestling games are embarrassing examples of giving a license to the wrong dev team.
Actually, DoR 2's engine could be improved in 2 ways:

1. Removing the strong grapple strikes ( the moves performed with the B button) and reinstating the slams and suplexes, like in No Mercy.

2. Either remove the stamina meter or speed up the recovery time. When the stamina meter runs out, you are a sitting duck for a good 5 - 10 minutes, unless your opponent is completely retarded and doesn't keep draining your meter even further. That is just too long.

The DoR series could be further improved by expanding the moveset (I played Raw vs Smackdown, unbelievable how many more moves that that game has ), and further improving the entrances (they fixed up some of the camera issues, but the call names were ridiculous).
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Actually, DoR 2's engine could be improved in 2 ways:

1. Removing the strong grapple strikes ( the moves performed with the B button) and reinstating the slams and suplexes, like in No Mercy.

2. Either remove the stamina meter or speed up the recovery time. When the stamina meter runs out, you are a sitting duck for a good 5 - 10 minutes, unless your opponent is completely retarded and doesn't keep draining your meter even further. That is just too long.

The DoR series could be further improved by expanding the moveset (I played Raw vs Smackdown, unbelievable how many more moves that that game has ), and further improving the entrances (they fixed up some of the camera issues, but the call names were ridiculous).
In fact, I'd say that DoR 2's engine was a step back from the first DoR. The extras were lacking, but the engine's the issue here.
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Basically, they just need to combine the best parts of the DoR & SvR series with complex simplicity of No Mercy to create a wrestling game that will live on for ages.
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Old 05-19-2006, 06:27 AM   #23
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What people fail to realize is that No Mercy, while a good game for its time, isn't the answer for next gen WWE/wrestling games.

I think THQ/Yukes are doing fine with the SmackDown series. Go back and play the original SmackDown and the compare that to SVR 06. The differences are colossial and you can tell Yukes has been tryin' hard to keep that series innovative.

I will, however, admit that Yukes could stand to borrow a few things from the WM2000/No Mercy games. I just think to constantly say No Mercy is the best is not giving Yukes credit they deserve. The SmackDown games of current totally eclipse what AKI did with No Mercy.

The Dor system was good, but, their story mode sucked ass. They could've used a more "creative" mode or simply could have ported the Season from the SmackDown system. Either way, I've always hated going through an entire season with a created wrestling. I'd much rather play season with a WWE Superstar as opposed to playing with a created wrestler. If Yukes decides to port the DOR series over to the Wii system, maybe they'll nix the whole "go to the top of WWE with your created wrestler in the season" crap. It's much better to play with a WWE superstar and be able to defend belts. It'd also help to have the ability to defend WWE belts in exhibition[ala SVR 06].

In short, Yukes needs to focus on improving the SVR 07 game, while using some elements from past games.
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Funny, since most everyone seems to be looking for elements of No Mercy to be used, which is the same thing you advocate like two paragraphs later.

So apparently, people do realise that just putting NM on the next gen systems is a bad idea, and your idea isn't particularly different than theirs.
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Funny, since most everyone seems to be looking for elements of No Mercy to be used, which is the same thing you advocate like two paragraphs later.

So apparently, people do realise that just putting NM on the next gen systems is a bad idea, and your idea isn't particularly different than theirs.
I advocate using certain aspects of No Mercy being used in current games. I never said No Mercy was the best game ever, which was what I originally replied to. There's a distinguishable difference.

I realize No Mercy was innovative and the best for its time, however, as I stated earlier, Yukes has done amazing things with the SmackDown games. Which again, was the point in my above post. I love how you try to twist logic, when clearly, you're not grasping the full concept of what I was sayin'.
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Okay, so like, I don't know how accurate this is per say, but here's something I found.

The list of superstars for the Raw vs Smackdown 2007 video game has been released and the Diva list is as follows; Ashley Massaro, Candice Michelle, Jillian Hall, Lita, Melina, Mickie James, Sharmell, Stacy Keibler, Torrie Wilson, Trish Stratus, Victoria


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News of Divas in an upcoming wrestling game from a site dedicated to them sounds like it makes sense, but I ain't going for it.

We have never, NEVER; seem that many Divas in recent WWE games and we never will.
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IT really wasn't twisting your words, but whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

Contextually, you left very little to work with, and if you are dissatisfied with the interpretation, don't blame me.

In the 25 posts prior to yours, I find two mentions of No Mercy, neither of which directly Advocate NM as the answer in-and-of-itself. The closest that came was James and his suggestion of taking the best elements of the DoR and SVR series and adding in the "complex simplicity," which is horribly nondescript, but far from the assertion you seem to be refuting.

You treat your answer as a reply, when it's unclear what you're replying to, as the argument seems to be one nobody made but you refute anyway. Since both other posts are talking about elements of No Mercy instead of No Mercy itself...
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Old 05-21-2006, 12:24 AM   #33
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IT really wasn't twisting your words, but whatever makes you feel better about yourself
You're right, it wasn't twisting words. Just a nice attempt

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I'm not blaming you for anything. Just saying your interpretation wasn't the right one.

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In the 25 posts prior to yours, I find two mentions of No Mercy, neither of which directly Advocate NM as the answer in-and-of-itself. The closest that came was James and his suggestion of taking the best elements of the DoR and SVR series and adding in the "complex simplicity," which is horribly nondescript, but far from the assertion you seem to be refuting.
I've not been "refuting" anything from the beginning. I've simply been pointing out your misunderstanding of what I said. Once again, nice try to make it look like I was the one who misunderstood.

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I replied clarifying above ^^^^.

Although I mentioned No Mercy as a great game, I've still been saying people don't give the SmackDown games enough credit. People seem to get all nostalgic and think No Mercy was the best thing since sliced bread, and that's not the case. SmackDown games have been better than No Mercy and the N64 series since SmackDown:Just Bring It.

And although I'd like to see the grapple system and instant replay aspects borrowed from the No Mercy system[which was what I meant when I referred to SD "borrowing things from No Mercy"], I still think the SD games have a good base for SVR 07. Admiring a past game and advocating it as the base for a totally new game are two different concepts. Which is a point I made earlier that, seemingly, went over your head.

Anyways, SVR 07 will be its own game. The graphics are amazing and the gameplay system sounds cool with the addition of more accurate groups of grapples for different strength types[i.e. Big Show not being able to do a hurricanrana ].

I just hope Yukes will work hard this year and give us a Season mode that doesn't get too repetitive, as SVR 06 only had a few memorable moments before getting repetitive.
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I'm not blaming you for anything. Just saying your interpretation wasn't the right one.
Well which is it? Twisting or misinterpreting? Twisting implies deliberate intent.

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I advocate using certain aspects of No Mercy being used in current games. I never said No Mercy was the best game ever, which was what I originally replied to. There's a distinguishable difference.

I realize No Mercy was innovative and the best for its time, however, as I stated earlier, Yukes has done amazing things with the SmackDown games. Which again, was the point in my above post. I love how you try to twist logic, when clearly, you're not grasping the full concept of what I was sayin'.
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I've not been "refuting" anything from the beginning.
Are you done lying?

Don't try and say I'm the one trying to pretend you misunderstood until you stop making conflicting statements in an attempt to "clarify." You're damn right I don't understand. Because I'm taking you to mean what you said, not some illusory statements that only you seem to be reading.

For example, you are replying to a comment about No Mercy being the best game ever, one which did not exist. Since replying and arguing against something is pretty much refuting, I take it to mean you are trying to refute the point. Yet, then you claim you are not. You defend yourself with an argument that you were replying to statements. When brought up that they do not seem to exist, suddenly I am twisting your words. Jesus Christ.

Seriously. Stop trying to say things and actually say things. I took the "wrong" meaning because I deliberately took what you said to be what you meant. This is not a lack of understanding on my behalf, this is a failure of communication on your end.
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The bolded element is also essentially the thesis of my original statement. Nobody in 25 statements before you said anything of the sort. You were replying to illusory comments, or replying to comments which wanted the same thing as you (Elements from No Mercy in a contemporary system).

None of your arguments have actually changed that, and yet, somehow, it's twisting your words to bring up what you keep saying. God, I'm no better than Saddam Hussein.
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It still amazes me how you always come into a discussion[no matter who's involved] start a disagreement and then try to turn it around on the OTHER guy[since you're never wrong, right ].

I didn't have to clarify anything on my part. Simply put, YOU are the one who thought I was arguing about No Mercy. Not so. I simply made a broad statement about how people always want to compare current/upcoming games to past games. I also made a statement about how SmackDown games don't get enough credit.

You misunderstood, so, you in turn, tried to assume and make me out to be the one who didn't understand. Hence, the reason for the quoted explaination above.

Think you finally got it now? I'm really tired of you always quoting me to argue when there's NOTHING to argue about.
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