NFL 2006 Season Thread

[RP]

Patriots fans always adjust there arguments to hate on Peyton Manning. Look up the past 3 NFL threads. First it was " Peyton Manning will never beat New England on the road ". So that happens and then its " Peyton Manning cant beat New England in the playoffs ". Then that happens and now they talk about " We'll Brady makes his recievers better and Manning doesnt " or " Manning cant win a Superbowl " like it matters to them if he does or doesnt all of a sudden. Patriots haters always have these arguments , most of which never carry any weight at all. Rediculous things like " Manning cant beat us in the playoffs " but he beat you twice in the regular season. Oh but now its different.

And if you say one thing bad about someone or something on the Patriots team, it immediatley comes back to " Peyton Manning cant win the big game " ALWAYS. Dont take my word for it. Look up the past NFL season threads. Its hilarious. Thats why this victory is so great. I love the fact that New England has lost all there " hater " arguments in the last couple of seasons.

My favorite argument is when they start yapping about how many rings they have then they note that Peyton has none. Its only about the " team " when we're talking about the Patriots, but when you talk about the Colts, its always " Peyton has no rings, Peyton cant win the big one , Peyton cant beat New England, Peyton Peyton Peyton". Again, proof is in the history. Go check it out. This is what New England fans do. They talk to no end about Peyton's post season difficulties, never once mentioning the other 52 men on the team, but when it comes to New England, not one person will mention how horrible Brady's last 2 post seasons have been. No we'll just blame the other 52 men on the team. Blame the recievers too. Patriot fans are just stupid.

I got news for you Patriot fan. If Manning wins this Superbowl, he's better then Brady. It doesnt matter if Brady has three rings to his one. Because rings are won by teams not players. Your argument has always been that Manning doesnt have the ring and Brady does. Nice. Well if Manning wins the Superbowl in 11 days, that argument is gone. He has the stats, he has the rings, he has the legacy. He has it all. So hold on to your Joe Montana comparisons like a breast fed baby holds onto his mothers tit. Cause thats all you'll have to fall back on. If the Colts win, Manning > Brady. How bout them apples?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Originally Posted by The Outlaw It was more of a jab at you acting like Peyton doesn't do the same thing. See : Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokley, Dallas Clark, *insert any of his targets he's had here minus Harrison

Stokley caught a TD in the Superbowl before playing with Peyton, I'd say that was noteworthy

[VonErichLives]

RP,

You're still bitter, it's really funny..

Joe Montana didn't win every playoff game he was in.

You are right that the whole team plays, however if you look at the big games they have lost Manning has always played very badly and it's expected for your stars to step up in the big games.

Sunday, Manning stepped up.

Everyone talks about Manning the same reason they talk about Brady or just about any QB, the QB is the leader of the team. Especially in Mannings case where he's one of the few if not the only QB in the league right now that calls his own plays.

So seriously, enjoy the experience, you may never make it again (it's been 20yrs since the Bears have been there).

Wait, I just realised what your doing... attacking Belichek, trying to make fun of Brady, talking about "team effort" and such... you're already making excuses incase the Colts don't beat the Bears a week from Sunday.

That's funny!

[RP]

Originally Posted by VonErichLives RP, You're still bitter, it's really funny.. Joe Montana didn't win every playoff game he was in. You are right that the whole team plays, however if you look at the big games they have lost Manning has always played very badly and it's expected for your stars to step up in the big games. Sunday, Manning stepped up. Everyone talks about Manning the same reason they talk about Brady or just about any QB, the QB is the leader of the team. Especially in Mannings case where he's one of the few if not the only QB in the league right now that calls his own plays. So seriously, enjoy the experience, you may never make it again (it's been 20yrs since the Bears have been there). Wait, I just realised what your doing... attacking Belichek, trying to make fun of Brady, talking about "team effort" and such... you're already making excuses incase the Colts don't beat the Bears a week from Sunday. That's funny!

Enjoy the offseason.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It feels good to let out all that repressed frustration doesn't it?

[RP]

Yes infact.

[Gonzo]

I feel what RP is saying. I've noticed the same trend too. People have an argument on Manning, he beats it down and they back up to the next argument.

How long did Patriots fans say Manning can't beat the Pats away, in the playoffs, or win a Superbowl? Now that he has done 2, and probably will have done the third, what will you say then? Manning hasn't won 3 or 4 Superbowls so the Colts aren't as good as the Pats? You can't just change your arguments to suit you.

Peyton Manning has all the ability in the world to win in any situation. He has proven it on all avenues except the Superbowl, and if he does it there too Patriots fans have nothing to say.

[VonErichLives]

Originally Posted by Gonzo I feel what RP is saying. I've noticed the same trend too. People have an argument on Manning, he beats it down and they back up to the next argument. How long did Patriots fans say Manning can't beat the Pats away, in the playoffs, or win a Superbowl? Now that he has done 2, and probably will have done the third, what will you say then? Manning hasn't won 3 or 4 Superbowls so the Colts aren't as good as the Pats? You can't just change your arguments to suit you. Peyton Manning has all the ability in the world to win in any situation. He has proven it on all avenues except the Superbowl, and if he does it there too Patriots fans have nothing to say.

No one's changing arguments, until he won Sunday it wasn't an argument it was true, he couldn't win the big game, plain and simple. He's now over that hurdle.

If they win the superbowl will they be as good as the Patriots? They'll be better then this years Patriots, and last year the Colts beat the Pats in NE in their only meeting and both teams lost in the same round of the playoffs, so clearly you'd have to say the Colts were the better team in last year.

Now, are you asking if the Colts win the superbowl will they be as good as the 2002-2005 Patriots who won 3 superbowls in 4 years? Of course not.

7 teams (one of them twice) have won back-to-back championships.
2 teams have won 3 superbowls in 4 years.

So no, until the Colts win more then one superbowl I wouldn't call them a "Dynasty" or put them in the same category as those other teams.

Does that take away from winning a superbowl? Not in my opinion.

But, RP seems more interested in trying to make things up and take shots at the Patriots then talk about the Bears.

I'd like to see Manning get a ring, but if he doesn't I can't wait to hear RP's excuses...

[RP]

Originally Posted by VonErichLives No one's changing arguments, until he won Sunday it wasn't an argument it was true, he couldn't win the big game, plain and simple. He's now over that hurdle. If they win the superbowl will they be as good as the Patriots? They'll be better then this years Patriots, and last year the Colts beat the Pats in NE in their only meeting and both teams lost in the same round of the playoffs, so clearly you'd have to say the Colts were the better team in last year. Now, are you asking if the Colts win the superbowl will they be as good as the 2002-2005 Patriots who won 3 superbowls in 4 years? Of course not. 7 teams (one of them twice) have won back-to-back championships. 2 teams have won 3 superbowls in 4 years. So no, until the Colts win more then one superbowl I wouldn't call them a "Dynasty" or put them in the same category as those other teams. Does that take away from winning a superbowl? Not in my opinion. But, RP seems more interested in trying to make things up and take shots at the Patriots then talk about the Bears. I'd like to see Manning get a ring, but if he doesn't I can't wait to hear RP's excuses...

Enjoy the Pro Bowl

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Originally Posted by Gonzo I feel what RP is saying. I've noticed the same trend too. People have an argument on Manning, he beats it down and they back up to the next argument. How long did Patriots fans say Manning can't beat the Pats away, in the playoffs, or win a Superbowl? Now that he has done 2, and probably will have done the third, what will you say then? Manning hasn't won 3 or 4 Superbowls so the Colts aren't as good as the Pats? You can't just change your arguments to suit you. Peyton Manning has all the ability in the world to win in any situation. He has proven it on all avenues except the Superbowl, and if he does it there too Patriots fans have nothing to say.

Manning is a great QB obviously, but he has shown in the past that he lacks the ability to always show up in huge games. Obviously this years playoffs are a lot different but I don't think one year can erase the huge list of history he has (even dating back to college where he never lead Tennesse to a victory over their biggest rival Florida/Tennesse went on to win the National Championship the year after he graduated) Up until the AFC Champ game Manning has had some pretty horrible playoff performances this year..everyone talks about how bad Grossman is but Rex has just as many TD passes with 5 less INTS. But at the sametime the Colts are winning and that's all that really matters.

When the Red Sox won the World Series did that really erase all the choke jobs the Red Sox had in the past? Not really, it made them "hurt" a whole lot less but they are still there. I definetly know what it feels like to RP right now, but If the Bears win the Superbowl I also know how that feels too..since the Patriots where huge underdogs againest the Saints a few years back. I also reemed Dave Wadding about it for like 2 months afterwards, so I know what it feels like to do that too haha

But lets not get too ahead of ourselves, the Colts haven't won the Superbowl yet, I mean its great and all that they "exorcise the demons" or whatever and made it to the Superbowl after years of being the pick to make it, but they still got one more game to play. I think they'll win, but you never know UF alum Grossman could come out of no where and pull some shit out of his ass...Manning's never had good luck againest the Gators

[The Outlaw]

Originally Posted by sTiMa34 everyone talks about how bad Grossman is but Rex has just as many TD passes with 5 less INTS.

Uhh. lol. You talking about the regular season?

Manning - 31 TDs with 9 INTs
Grossman - 23 TDs with 20 INTs

If you're talking about the postseason, that's a pretty silly thing to argue. Peyton's played in one more game, against tougher competition, etc. etc.


But since Peyton doesn't produce in the postseason, I'd like to point out his stats in the postseason. 265/437 for 3,248 yards. 17 TDs and 14 INTs in 12 games. 6-6 in playoff games. He had 15 TDs and 8 INTs coming into this year by the way. In fact, he's performed very well minus a handful of those games, notably against the PATs in '03 and then against the Jets the year before and the two games this year. So, I know the whole argument is "He can't win the big game" which is pretty silly again to ignore all the good games he has including the playoffs and emphasize the few bad ones he's had. That's like saying that players should only show up for the big games. *insert Ricky Williams interview here*

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Originally Posted by The Outlaw Uhh. lol. You talking about the regular season? Manning - 31 TDs with 9 INTs Grossman - 23 TDs with 20 INTs If you're talking about the postseason, that's a pretty silly thing to argue. Peyton's played in one more game, against tougher competition, etc. etc. But since Peyton doesn't produce in the postseason, I'd like to point out his stats in the postseason. 265/437 for 3,248 yards. 17 TDs and 14 INTs in 12 games. 6-6 in playoff games. He had 15 TDs and 8 INTs coming into this year by the way. In fact, he's performed very well minus a handful of those games, notably against the PATs in '03 and then against the Jets the year before and the two games this year. So, I know the whole argument is "He can't win the big game" which is pretty silly again to ignore all the good games he has including the playoffs and emphasize the few bad ones he's had. That's like saying that players should only show up for the big games. *insert Ricky Williams interview here*

Really he's had some really bad games, and some really good games (pretty sure he threw 5 TD passes in like a 42-0 win againest the Broncos couple years back) so his stats are pretty skewed going both ways. He has just gone from being a really great QB to an average one once the playoffs roll around...that's all I'm saying. Ignoring that is a bit silly too, obviously its not like he can't break out of this or something but the proof is there. Naturally I am a bit biased in this discussion too, but so aren't Manning fans so it goes both ways I guess.

I really hope with all this talk that Chicago comes out and beats the Colts, I personally can't see it happening but you never know.

[RP]

Originally Posted by sTiMa34 Really he's had some really bad games, and some really good games (pretty sure he threw 5 TD passes in like a 42-0 win againest the Broncos couple years back) so his stats are pretty skewed going both ways. He has just gone from being a really great QB to an average one once the playoffs roll around...that's all I'm saying. Ignoring that is a bit silly too, obviously its not like he can't break out of this or something but the proof is there. Naturally I am a bit biased in this discussion too, but so aren't Manning fans so it goes both ways I guess. I really hope with all this talk that Chicago comes out and beats the Colts, I personally can't see it happening but you never know.

This kills me though, cause all you Patriots fans have been arguing over the years is that its not about the stats, its about winning the big game. Thats all you guy's have said. When someone say's something about Manning being the best, its like " Oh Manning puts up all the stats, but he'll never win a big game like Brady ". Now he wins the big game and you wanna talk about stats all of a sudden? Get out of here with that shit man.

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by sTiMa34 ...Manning is a great QB obviously, but he has shown in the past that he lacks the ability to always show up in huge games...

Oh I'm not disagreeing with that at all, he hasn't, up until now really won a game in the "big game" atmosphere. I wouldn't compare the Colts to the Pats in terms of success just because they win one Superbowl or anything, but I just would think its ridiculous if Pats fans found something new to rag Peyton and the Colts about if they won.

Of course we're all having this conversation and knowing fate, the Bears will win or something.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Lets just say we had protection problems

[McLegend]

Switching back for a second.

I still don't understamd why most of you didn't want to see Patriots and the Colts in the AFC championship Game. I understand wanting your team to be in, but other then that this would defintly be the most intersting game as it turned out to be.

Also this Colts/Patroits rivarly hasn't been beaten to death like the Yanks and the Sox, and is without a doubt the best rivarly in the NFL so I don't get why people are tired of it.

[SammyG]

Naw. This is the Colts year. The less black coach will win.

[RP]

I think it'll be one of the best Superbowls ever. I just have a feeling. I still think Indy will win because we have the legend Adam V, but it think Chicago will play some inspired football and make it a really close game.


Colts 31

Bears 27

[YOUR Hero]

Let me just say this. In the Colts/Patriots game the other week, I felt Brady was the better QB. Sure his team lost, but he looked more composed and had much better zip on his ball.

[Gonzo]

I would agree as far as the first half goes, but the Colts and Peyton in the 2nd half played totally better than the Patriots team as a whole.

[YOUR Hero]

Originally Posted by Gonzo I would agree as far as the first half goes, but the Colts and Peyton in the 2nd half played totally better than the Patriots team as a whole.

Not talking about the teams, just the QBs.

You eliminate the dropped passes and as far as I'm concerned, the Pats would have won. The throws were good. No faulting the QB oi
n them. Also not to crucifix Caldwell, because he's a go to guy and as far as I recall, it's the first time he's ever had the yips.

Anyway, QB to QB, Brady was the better.

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero Anyway, QB to QB, Brady was the better.

We could split hairs but given the poor performance in the first half by Peyton, I think he totally redeemed himself coming back from a 21-6 defecit (sp?). He answered the call. I'm not taking anything away from Brady here because he played well too. The reason I give the edge to Peyton is because of the one crucial throw made by Brady that ended up ending the game, the INT. Sure, Peyton had a pick but it was early and they bounced back from it. I dunno.

[MTH15]

So many long posts...gosh. Okay yea I think Rex Grossman can be good at times. But I dont think he will do good against the on fire Colts defense. Sorry to go a little bit off-topic but you Outlaw. You say you knew about Reggie Wayne 3-4 years before he broke out. Let me make this comment. Jerious Norwood will be a great Running Back. If he was starting he would be a Lawrence Moroney or Steven Jackson. I saw this in the Pre Season game against NE when he got like a 76 yard receiving TD.

[Kris P Lettus]

Originally Posted by mth1410 So many long posts...gosh.

LOL

[Crimson]

I'm sorry but the 2nd half was all Manning..how can anyone even argue it. The clutch is what counts and he came through when iti counted.

[RP]

Manning was better then Brady. Anyone who watched the game, or outside of New England knows this. I'm not sure how you could possibly argue that Brady was better then Manning in that game, but it dont matter.

Big game Tom has lost playoff games 2 years in a row cause of poor play and crucial interceptions. Oh crap shhh dont let anyone know that. He's suppose to be Joe Montana remember.

[Gonzo]

I do have to say I thought that INT by Brady was very uncharacteristic. I don't know if he didn't see the guy, but it initially looked like he tried to gun it in there. I don't know if anyone asked him about it in the press conferences but thats what it looked like to me.

[McLegend]

Basically what Your Hero is saying that Brady was throwing the ball better, and that most of Tom Brady's passes looked real good unlike Payton Manning where most of his throws were wobbly and didn't look that good.

Not that it really matters though.

[RP]

Yah, its the dumbest argument i've ever heard. Brady throws a better ball. So what. Manning has never thrown the prettiest ball. Manning played the 4th quarter with a bad thumb on his throwing hand. Manning led his team back from 18 points. Manning won that game. Brady had a chance and he choked. How can you possibly say Brady was the better QB?

BTW the dropped passes meant shit. The first one was canceled out cause Gafney caught a TD the next play. The second wasnt going no where reguardless cause Bathea was coming right towards him to make the stop. Brady didnt recognize Caldwell that wide open and neither one of them had any clue what to do with when he was so wide open. The fact that there was no saftey over the top and no one guarding him and Caldwell didnt run staight up the field? Brady didnt recognize that?? If that was Manning and Harrison or Wayne or Ricky Proehl for that matter. Manning would have had that ball hiked from the moment he stepped under center. So the who dropped ball, patriots would have won, argument is stupid. Sorry.

It was so obvious Manning was the better QB in that game. And Brady made the key mistakes. And quite frankly, its unacceptable to have a team up 18 points lose a game of that magnitude. Let alone that team having one Tom Brady as there QB. Now thats a choke job for you.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol wow lotta pent up aggression for this guy.

Its pretty funny seeing how you called Charlie Weis "Lloyd Carr Jr" since he can't win the big game just like Lloyd Carr...when Lloyd Carr has won a National Championship. Now Manning finally wins the AFC Championship game and he is the greatest playoff QB of all time or something.

I really really hope the Bears somehow pull through and beat the Colts, I really can't see it happening but it will be one of the most hilarious thing to happen in the sports forum'

But yeah I'd say Manning out played Brady in the last game, neither of them really had a spectular game though.

[RP]

Originally Posted by sTiMa34 lol wow lotta pent up aggression for this guy. Its pretty funny seeing how you called Charlie Weis "Lloyd Carr Jr" since he can't win the big game just like Lloyd Carr...when Lloyd Carr has won a National Championship. Now Manning finally wins the AFC Championship game and he is the greatest playoff QB of all time or something. I really really hope the Bears somehow pull through and beat the Colts, I really can't see it happening but it will be one of the most hilarious thing to happen in the sports forum' But yeah I'd say Manning out played Brady in the last game, neither of them really had a spectular game though.

Wow, whats really funny is that i fail to find any post where i said Manning was the greatest playoff QB ever. Were you channeling VEL in that post?

[VonErichLives]

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder Big game Tom has lost playoff games 2 years in a row cause of poor play and crucial interceptions. Oh crap shhh dont let anyone know that. He's suppose to be Joe Montana remember.

yes, even if Manning wins next Sunday Brady will still be compared to Joe Montana because of the multiple rings and the come back wins. Yes, even Joe Montana lost playoff games.

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder If that was Manning and Harrison or Wayne or Ricky Proehl for that matter. Manning would have had that ball hiked from the moment he stepped under center.

Of course he would have, but only after running into a phone booth changing into his cape and saving lois lane.

Maybe Manning would have, maybe not, you have no way of knowing, you're trying to predict fact on a hypothetical.

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder Were you channeling VEL in that post?

If he was it would be a post with quotes from you that you would claim were taken out of context and twisted, only to be followed up by other quotes from you where I ask you for your proof and you ignore, then followed up by claims of mine, with proof only for you to claim the proof isn't valid because the source is major Boston newspaper.

Really, enjoy the ride, you may never get back and yes, you need more then one superbowl win to be a "Dynasty".

Also, Stima's stats had everything to do with playoff performance, and your "it doesn't matter as long as you win the big game", Manning has won 1 big game, don't get over excited until he does it again.

[RP]

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder Patriots fans always adjust there arguments to hate on Peyton Manning. Look up the past 3 NFL threads. First it was " Peyton Manning will never beat New England on the road ". So that happens and then its " Peyton Manning cant beat New England in the playoffs ". Then that happens and now they talk about " We'll Brady makes his recievers better and Manning doesnt " or " Manning cant win a Superbowl " like it matters to them if he does or doesnt all of a sudden. Patriots haters always have these arguments , most of which never carry any weight at all. Rediculous things like " Manning cant beat us in the playoffs " but he beat you twice in the regular season. Oh but now its different. And if you say one thing bad about someone or something on the Patriots team, it immediatley comes back to " Peyton Manning cant win the big game " ALWAYS. Dont take my word for it. Look up the past NFL season threads. Its hilarious. Thats why this victory is so great. I love the fact that New England has lost all there " hater " arguments in the last couple of seasons. My favorite argument is when they start yapping about how many rings they have then they note that Peyton has none. Its only about the " team " when we're talking about the Patriots, but when you talk about the Colts, its always " Peyton has no rings, Peyton cant win the big one , Peyton cant beat New England, Peyton Peyton Peyton". Again, proof is in the history. Go check it out. This is what New England fans do. They talk to no end about Peyton's post season difficulties, never once mentioning the other 52 men on the team, but when it comes to New England, not one person will mention how horrible Brady's last 2 post seasons have been. No we'll just blame the other 52 men on the team. Blame the recievers too. Patriot fans are just stupid. I got news for you Patriot fan. If Manning wins this Superbowl, he's better then Brady. It doesnt matter if Brady has three rings to his one. Because rings are won by teams not players. Your argument has always been that Manning doesnt have the ring and Brady does. Nice. Well if Manning wins the Superbowl in 11 days, that argument is gone. He has the stats, he has the rings, he has the legacy. He has it all. So hold on to your Joe Montana comparisons like a breast fed baby holds onto his mothers tit. Cause thats all you'll have to fall back on. If the Colts win, Manning > Brady. How bout them apples?

Originally Posted by VonErichLives Also, Stima's stats had everything to do with playoff performance, and your "it doesn't matter as long as you win the big game", Manning has won 1 big game, don't get over excited until he does it again.

[RP]

And see thats what i'm talking about. Anytime someone makes a dumb argument against Manning and I post my reasons for why i think they're wrong, you Patriot fans come in here acting ( in your case actually saying ) like i'm some crazy fanatic who wants to hump Peyton Manning or something and you never quite argue against my statemens. Probably cause i'm right, you just go straight to the " Haha look at this loser, Peyton Manning sucks, I have three rings," bull shit. You cant possibly say, " Yah you're probably right ". Thats fine though. I dont expect that. But the whole " Well since i cant make a valid argument, i'll make a smug comment and post other examples of when of other arguments that have nothing to do with this one " Or as i now will call it, " The Lloyd Carr argument" is old and wore out bro. Stop trying to be funny and come with something logical. I'll designate that for you Patriots fan. Whenever i come in here and pretty much make sense of you not making sense, you have my permission to go to the Lloyd Carr argument. If we're talking about the Superbowl and i say something that you cant possibly post a reasonable retort to, Lloyd Carr Argument.


LOL

" Oh but but but but YOU SAID CHARLIE WEISS IS ANOTHER LLOYD CARR!!! "

Get lost loser.

[RP]

My " It doesnt matter as long as you win the big game" ????

LOL Let me go find the 2005 and 2004 NFL threads . Quick, go erase them so i dont totally make you look like a fucking moron. Wait i'm too late. You've already done that.

But Bellichek is coaching the Pro Bowl, so i guess the dynasty continues.

[RP]

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder If Bob Sanders gets healthy for the playoffs, fuck your running game.

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder We'll smoke the Jets and if i'm correct, i think we would play the Ravens. I'm telling you right now. Jamal Lewis will not kill us like these other backs have. We'll beat the Ravens. Manning has seen that same Baltimore defense. Not much is different. He beat them once in Baltimore last year and he can do it again with not much problem. I seriously feel it. I dont care what happend in Houston. Colts over New England in Indy in the AFC championship game.

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder Did Bridget Moynahan break up with Tom Brady, before or after he fucked that sheep in the bottom right?

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool Bye bye Colts, I hope your playoff run has been as memorable as it has been in seasons' past. Man, at least Jim Harbaugh was one play away from taking the Colts to the Superbowl.

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool Oh well let the Colts win their last home game of the season. Now they will go on the road where they SUCK.

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder I've heard two lines that sum this game up pretty much for me. First one is pretty cliche i guess " Now or Never ". The other i heard a guy on the radio say " This is a amazing oppurtunity and a potential nightmare all wrapped into one ". Meaning, Manning and the Colts can pretty much answer all the questions with this one game, against the Patriots, but if we lose, it would be unimaginable. I seriously cannot describe how on edge this city is right now. The peices could not have fallen together any perfectly. Home game against their arch rivals in the AFC Championship game. The story has been written perfectly so far and now Manning, Dungy and the Colts need to give it the story book ending. This is basically what everyone in Indianapolis feels. If we lose this game, this city will be crushed. I dont think the window will be closed, but it will never be open as wide as it is right now.

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder And because this has set up so nicely for the Colts, i truely believe Manning might have a career defining game Sunday.

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder Seriously though, who's guarding Reggie Wayne? Ellis Hobbs? Comon. And then who will cover Dallas Clark in the slot? I'm starting to think that New ENgland may get stretched so thin that Addai and Rhodes will have there way with them.

Much respect to Hobbs though, he was brilliant and he made some amazing plays.

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder Are you foreal? Reggie Wayne has torched every single person the Pats have put on him. Asante Samuel has gotten really good, but he'll have his hands full with Marvin. I'm kinda shocked you dont find matchup important. Thats dumb. They mean alot. Especially given Waynes history for torching the Pats #2 cb and with Dallas Clark red hot and damn near uncoverable by even the best linebackers in the league ( ravens ). Honestly, DrA, you're wrong. It means alot.

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder I think it matters alot. I'm pretty sure Hobbs was the guy that got lit by Harrison in the first meeting this year. It wouldnt be no different with Wayne. Pats dont have the secondary to be able to blitz Manning that much imo. They're better off just doing what Baltimore did and drop there safteys back 25 yards. Cause if they blitz, they're leaving someone man to man and Manning is brilliant at finding where the blitz is coming from and where the man to man is. Marvin, Reggie and Dallas ( depending on whos covering him ) can all beat man to man coverage and the Pats will get shredded that way. Thats why the individual matchups matter. Ellis Hobbs cant cover Reggie Wayne 1 on 1. I'm sorry. Samuel might be able to do something with Marvin. I think he's a great cb, but Hobbs is in trouble. I think Manning is gunna have a huge game, but i think Brady will have a big one too. Colts defense is playing amazing, but you have to take it with a grain of salt kind of. Its hard to believe they can sustain what they're doing. Especially against New England, but that dome is going to be on fire. Its going to be like nothing you've heard before. Crowd could will these Colts defenders to another brilliant effort. I dunno.

Originally Posted by VonErichLives So tell us RP, how will they win? What is the game plan? What is so different about these two teams this time that the Colts will win the playoff game. I'm not saying the Colts can't win, I just want to hear your reasons why/how.

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder I've pretty much said it the last couple pages.

[RP]

[RP]

i hope we dont lose the superbowl.

[DrA]

On a related note, I will be quite displeased if the Cowboys sign Norv Turner as the head coach. Why are they even CONSIDERING him?

[VonErichLives]

Originally Posted by DrA On a related note, I will be quite displeased if the Cowboys sign Norv Turner as the head coach. Why are they even CONSIDERING him?

Because Jerry Jones is running things again.

A better question is what type of coach do you expect to get if you sign the coaching staff before the coach.

My thought, Norv has experience, wont cost much and is good with QB and it will probably be a 1yr deal.

Belichecks contract is up next year, the rumor is the new one is ready but he wont sign it until his divorce is final, that being said... would it shock you if Jones is looking for a stop-gap hoping next year he can throw a ton of money at Belicheck or Pioli or both?

There's also rumors of one of them going to the Giants after next season.

My bet is they both stay put, they have a good team and a great owner who will spend money and stay hands off. The question becomes does one or both of them think they have a better chance of winning again soon with a young eli manning then an aging brady?