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Old 03-12-2007, 06:57 PM   #1
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I'm sure Bills fans used this same rationale to justify letting Antoine Winfield go too.
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Old 03-12-2007, 07:37 PM   #2
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I'm quite interested to see how the draft plays out for the Giants. The only acquisition we've made is Reuben Droughns. We're probably moving David Diehl to LT, but other than that we do have some positions to fill that possibly we could have made better moves on.

Maybe they'll let one of our young guys play in place of LaVar and Carlos Emmons. We've had some guys waiting in the wings for years that have shown great promise.
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:49 PM   #3
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Rams should be pretty good. SHOULD BE.
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:11 PM   #4
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So Should the Falcons, and Depending on the Raiders offseason them too.
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The Raiders? They are still going to suck
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Great pickup by the Pats in getting Stallworth. Pats are running circles around every other team in Free Agency.
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Great pickup by the Pats in getting Stallworth. Pats are running circles around every other team in Free Agency.
Yeah right. The Vikings signed BOBBY WADE.
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Clement is not a game changing CB though

I think you guys are overrating Clement by A LOT, he is a little above average...he isn't Champ Bailey or something

Like I said though, the cornerback has been devalued a lot thanks to Mike Martz and Tony Dungy pushing for the "re-enforcement" of certains rules which benefit wideouts.
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:29 AM   #9
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Clement is not a game changing CB though

I think you guys are overrating Clement by A LOT, he is a little above average...he isn't Champ Bailey or something

Like I said though, the cornerback has been devalued a lot thanks to Mike Martz and Tony Dungy pushing for the "re-enforcement" of certains rules which benefit wideouts.

Word. Clements is above average at best.

I still think that RBs are more important than CBs. A Lockdown corner shuts down one reciever, and because of this Teams started using more 3 and 4 reciever sets and started usign TEs as weapons. You can Lockdown harrison onyl for Clark and Wayne to kill you. a RB can wear down an entire D.
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Clement is not a game changing CB though

I think you guys are overrating Clement by A LOT, he is a little above average...he isn't Champ Bailey or something

Like I said though, the cornerback has been devalued a lot thanks to Mike Martz and Tony Dungy pushing for the "re-enforcement" of certains rules which benefit wideouts.

They pushed for enforcement of the rule. Not re-enforcement. The rule wasnt being called. Get your facts straight.
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It would be insane if Moss goes to the Packers. People there already hate him and people in Minnesota still love him. You know he'd do something hilarious.

He came back to Minnesota for a preseason game this year and was pretty normal. After the game he was saying how he liked Minnesota and was upset he couldn't do something for the fans, but he doesn't like the Vikings organization. If he was on the Packers though, it would be different.

Shit, if Moss is going to move he has to come back to Minnesota. We need him more than the Packers, and we actually liked him.
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Now I'd usually spam the hell outta that saying the Falcons should have him and what not. But we got Joe Horn. And the Raiders can be good. Just like the saints. Draft and free agency/trade can get them deep into the playoffs.
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11 straight post season quarters between the Colts and the Patriots with no pass interference called on New England until this years AFC Championship game when it was called ( wrongly ) on Ellis Hobbs.


Saying that anyteam from any era defended any group of wide recievers for 11 straight quarters with not one pass interference is rediculous. EVEN YOU sTiMa34 can admit that.
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11 straight post season quarters between the Colts and the Patriots with no pass interference called on New England until this years AFC Championship game when it was called ( wrongly ) on Ellis Hobbs.


Saying that anyteam from any era defended any group of wide recievers for 11 straight quarters with not one pass interference is rediculous. EVEN YOU sTiMa34 can admit that.
No it really isn't.

That being said, you're correct it was re-enforcment of the rule, same thing that happened in the mid 80's and will probably happen in another 10-20 years.

The rule does need to be called, but they need to let the refs "let them play" to some extent.. it should be somewhere inbetween, which is where it's slowly getting back to and then a few years after that you'll have WR's being mugged again and whoever has the top offense at that time will complain and they'll re-enforce the rule to the point that breathing on a player is called.
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11 straight post season quarters between the Colts and the Patriots with no pass interference called on New England until this years AFC Championship game when it was called ( wrongly ) on Ellis Hobbs.


Saying that anyteam from any era defended any group of wide recievers for 11 straight quarters with not one pass interference is rediculous. EVEN YOU sTiMa34 can admit that.
I am failing to see why that is such a shocking stat?

Also, is that even including illegal contact calls?
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I am failing to see why that is such a shocking stat?

Also, is that even including illegal contact calls?

Comon. If illegal contact would have been called, New England would have one less Superbowl.
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I dont get restricted free agency.
Drafting team gets first shot at a player after their first contract runs out.

The Drafting team can off them 3 amount of money that they can not refuse, kind of like them picking up an option.

Once they offer a tender, other teams can offer that player a contract for any amount. The Drafting team then has a chance to match that offer. If they match they get the player, not matter where he goes. IF they dont match, the team that signed the player away has to pay compensation depending on the level of the 3 tenders they got.

High Tender = First round pick
Middle tender = Pick equal to the one that player was drafted
Low= No Compensation.
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Thanks MAH, So if teams make trades before the draft including draft picks, dont you have to wait till the draft to hear about it.
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Thanks MAH, So if teams make trades before the draft including draft picks, dont you have to wait till the draft to hear about it.
No, they can do it at any point.

However, the alot of trades happen draft day is that is when 99 percent of Pick for Pick trades happen, as the boards are clearer and you know what pick you need to get who you want. Also, Workouts go on until then, so it is not until the draft is upon us that teams have their boards finished
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No?

The Patriots sent a 2nd and 7th to Miami for Welker like what, less than a week ago?
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lol alright

Actually the only rule you could say that about would be the tuck rule

Which I am able to admit was a bad rule, unlike a Colts fan boy defending Illegal Contact rule
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Actually the only rule you could say that about would be the tuck rule

Which I am able to admit was a bad rule, unlike a Colts fan boy defending Illegal Contact rule

you're a fan boy
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I thought Horn got cut?
Yes..

Because he wants too much money, is old, and has been hurt for most of the past two seasons..

Heard a rumor that we are going after Drew Bennett..

Also, I don't know if this has been dscussed but Tank Johnson is now serving 4 months for a probation violation from the 2005 gun arrest..
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Stima and VEL I dunno what you guys know about Kelley Washington but if he gets on the field which I don't think he got a fair opportunity to do in Cincinnati then he's going to be a serious threat for the Patriots next year. And of course you also get this:
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I'm not totally broken up about that. I wanted to keep Harper more then June. Freddy Keiaho is ready to step up.
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The New York Jets select, from Penn State, tight end Kyle Brady

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you can find busts with a lot of teams, especially in the 80's, now most 1st round picks work out to some extent.

It's just always funnier with the Jets since the drafts in NY and all the fans are there.

My most memorible Pats bust was trading down and taking a OL or TE, I honestly forget his name and the only thing he ever did in his career was catch a TD for the Jets to beat the Pats, on the flip side the pick the Pats delt to SF was used for Jerry Rice.

Best Draft momemnt ever was Mel Kiper and Bill Polian.
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