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Old 07-26-2007, 01:05 PM   #1
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Unless his fight with Jardine was a fluke, Houston Alexander is going to be a force to be reckoned with.
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:36 PM   #2
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Sakara can bang though.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:43 PM   #3
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True. Jardine might not be a great fighter but he's good, and certainly no push over. And Houston Alexander swatted him like a fly. We'll find out for sure after the Sakara fight whether he's for real or he got lucky.
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I'm totally going to UFC 77 in Cincinnati. As soon as tickets go on sale i'm there. Right now theres a couple fights with the ME being Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin ( amazing ME ). I'm hoping they add Fedors debut, but if Couture beats Gonzales at 74, i cant see how Fedor doesnt debut against Couture. More on that later.
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Doesnt matter. Couture outclasses him in everything and Couture wont be dumb enough to walk right into a kick to the face. Plus unlike Cro Crop, Couture is pretty well versed in the cage if you know what i mean. Gonzaga wont win this fight.
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Doesnt matter. Couture outclasses him in everything and Couture wont be dumb enough to walk right into a kick to the face. Plus unlike Cro Crop, Couture is pretty well versed in the cage if you know what i mean. Gonzaga wont win this fight.
Gonzaga is stronger, his BJJ is miles better and his stand up is better than Randy's. If anything, Randy is an underdog.

I'll make a bet with you if you are so convinced Randy will win though.
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Gonzaga is stronger, his BJJ is miles better and his stand up is better than Randy's. If anything, Randy is an underdog.

I'll make a bet with you if you are so convinced Randy will win though.
i dont think you should make bets anymore
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Why not? IT'S A GAMBLE! They don't teach you simple English terms in school over there?

As for my predictions - wow got one wrong! Shoot me. Until the broken nose, Randy wasn't winning the stand up and his BJJ has always been non existant. And going into the fight, the betting line only started favouring Randy once they had a ton of cash placed on him.

Have to edit - the prediction on the show I actually got wrong was I had Grove beating Cote. Post 47 said my main event pick.
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Why not? IT'S A GAMBLE! They don't teach you simple English terms in school over there?

As for my predictions - wow got one wrong! Shoot me. Until the broken nose, Randy wasn't winning the stand up and his BJJ has always been non existant. And going into the fight, the betting line only started favouring Randy once they had a ton of cash placed on him.

Have to edit - the prediction on the show I actually got wrong was I had Grove beating Cote. Post 47 said my main event pick.

You dont know what you're talking about. Randy was on his ass 20 seconds into the fight. He dominated him standing up and then slammed the shit out of Gonzaga. LOL His BJJ has always been non existant. Thats hilarious. I wont even comment. You do the work for me. Also, Couture wasnt favored on the betting line. He was underdog on about every book you can name. Like Bodog for instance had Randy at +105 and Gonzaga at -130. Everyone was pretty much picking Gonzaga.

And you know what, i knew you'd go to the nose injury as an excuse. Thats lame. When Rampage Jackson got beat by Shogun despite suffering a broken rib early in the fight, he announced that Shogun was the best fighter he had ever fought. Injuries obviously happen in MMA. Its unfortunate, but Randy was clearly the more aggressive. He clearly was on Gonzaga 20 seconds after the opening bell. He slammed Gonzaga and Gonzaga suffered a nose injury. It happens. Thats MMA. If you cant fight with an injury, you probably shouldnt be in MMA. Couture was taking Gonzagas best kicks and absorbing them. He even caught one.

It was clear as day Couture was winning that fight no matter what.
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I still stand by my pick of Gabe. Though I do hope Randy wins, I pick Gabe.
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See the Russians want Fedor to have a warm up fight before he fights a big name in the UFC cause he's used to the 4 side ring and his team involves alot of communication. They're worried about the cage. So they want him to have a walk over fight to get used to it. If i'm Dana White, unless you're planning to hold Couture from action for about 5 to 6 months, you have to take advantage of the Couture train while its moving. You cant risk having Couture losing a fight before Fedor gets his shot. The biggest money UFC can dream of right now is Randy Couture vs Fedor for the title. So i dont think Dana would be happy with Fedor taking a warm up fight first. I'm not saying that Fedor is wrong for wanting to do so. I'm simply saying that Couture whos become a underdog hero this late in his career and nothing less then an absolute incredible story with what he's accomplished, vs Fedor who is widely considered the best MMA fighter in the world today. You cant just sit on that. You gotta cash in on that fight right away. You cant risk Couture fighting another fight after the Gonzaga fight and losing. Not to say he cant lose to Gonzaga. I just dont see it happening. If Couture beats Gonzaga, Dana will get Fedor signed and i dont see how he can possibly want Fedor having any other fight then the Couture fight. It will be the biggest fight in UFC history. It need to be cashed as soon as possible. While the Randy train is still moving full steam ahead cause if Randy loses a fight and loses that belt, he's probably retiring and they'll miss the Fedor vs Randy fight.
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I agree,but if Fedor wants a ' warm up' fight beforehand i'd give it to him, I mean what are the chances he loses right? lol. But I wouldn't have Couture fight after this Gonzaga fight, until Fedor would win his debut match..then i'd make the Fedor/Couture match. So Randy would go like 4-5 months without a defense but that's ok..when has Serra defended his title? Oh that's right never! He's juast keeping it warm for Hughes according to Dana.
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Serra and Hughes will be the coaches for The Ultimate Fighter 6 and then fight on ppv.

I think the idea is that they're hoping Hughes steps up and beats Serra so it'll set up Hughes vs GSP 3
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GSP is gunna murder Josh Koscheck. Matt Hughes couldnt even take GSP down, i dont know what Koscheck can possibly do other then get karate kicked in the head and knocked out.
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First of all i dont think Gonzaga is stronger. He's not better stand up. Randy's clinch is miles better and his wrestling ( which imo is second to no one ) will keep the fight on the ground. And you act like Randy is a stranger to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. He beat Vitor Belfort twice and Belfort BJJ was so much better then Gonzagas right now. If thats all you're basing your opinion on, then sure i'll make a bet cause Randy will win this in 2 rounds. Go ahead and make a bet.
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First of all i dont think Gonzaga is stronger. He's not better stand up. Randy's clinch is miles better and his wrestling ( which imo is second to no one ) will keep the fight on the ground. And you act like Randy is a stranger to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. He beat Vitor Belfort twice and Belfort BJJ was so much better then Gonzagas right now. If thats all you're basing your opinion on, then sure i'll make a bet cause Randy will win this in 2 rounds. Go ahead and make a bet.
Make the deal then.
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Realistically CroCop should have killed Gonzaga, but he came out like he was going to walk thru the fight which was not the thing to do against gonzaga. He didnt train in a cage, he didnt look like he warmed up much for the fight, and he came in with almost no intensity. He thought he was too good for UFC and he got put in his place.

Dont think Im saying Gonzaga isnt the real deal because he is awsome. I could see him beating randy just as much as I can see randy beating him. however I can see Randy having the slight advantage because he has all the experience. I will go on to say this and you can bet me if you like, if The fight goes past the third round randy will win.

also fedor is too professional to make his first fight a title fight. Theres no way in hell that he would accept it. He knows he needs a fight in the cage first and thats exactly what he will do.
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Old 08-03-2007, 12:29 PM   #19
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If Gonzaga beats Coture I bet Fedor's first fight will be against Gonzaga, and he will of course win.
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what? no if gonzaga beats cotour then fedor would be able to have more than one tune up fights under his belt. If cotour wins then there will be pressure for a Randy Fedor fight to happen as soon as possible.
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If Randy wins you cannot give Fedor a warm up match, you risk losing too much. They gave Mirko a warm up and look what happened to him, you can't risk Fedor coming in and getting beat before the title fight, you can't risk Randy defending and possibly losing the title against someone else. If Randy wins, then that has to be the next match.
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Mirko was playing games. He wanted the title fight in his 4th fight so he could talk about a new contract whilst possibly being champion.
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lol what?
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Dana White (and others) said he was putting off fighting for the title and wanted more warm up fights. Thoughts were he wanted to run down his contract and then could make a better deal if he was the champion.
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so ur saying he let himself get KOed so that he could get a later title shot?
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Jeez can't you read? Where did I say anything about letting himself get KO'd? That would be the stupidest business move in the history of MMA.

I'm saying that instead of fighting for the title in his 2nd contract fight. he wanted 2 more fights before he fought for the title. If he wins the title in his 2nd fight, he had 2 more fights where he had to defend the belt before he could go to Dana White and renew his contract as champion. When you are the champ, your value shoots up.
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right i understand about the value... i am just making sure u arent implying he threw the GG fight so he didnt have an early title shot.
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From where I was sitting in the MEN arena, I'd call Mirko an Olympic standard diver and an Oscar worthy actor if he threw that fight.
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From where I was sitting in the MEN arena, I'd call Mirko an Olympic standard diver and an Oscar worthy actor if he threw that fight.
Especially with the leg twisting
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From where I was sitting in the MEN arena, I'd call Mirko an Olympic standard diver and an Oscar worthy actor if he threw that fight.
Thats essentially what I was going to say if you implied he threw the fight
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Spencer Fisher is out of his Fight Night main event against Din Thomas. UFC has already replaced him with Kenny Florian.
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didnt he get a staph infection or some shit?
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Yeah. So did a few others in his camp.
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Awsome Wanderlei video. He answers a lot of questions.

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1233
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Awsome Wanderlei video. He answers a lot of questions.

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yah what Silva said...


Silva will smoke Liddell and he'll smoke Rampage, but i Shogun has done that job by the time Silva gets his 2nd fight.
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dude silva is a stand up guy. hes going to kill everybody if he continues to train with randy.
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Andrei is getting fucked right now...

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Once upon a time, it goes, Andrei Arlovski was in line to fight for the UFC World Heavyweight Championship. Now? Well, he's still waiting to be put in line.

Joe Silva has confirmed that Arlovski hasn't even been mentioned when talk of the Heavyweight division comes up. He's already forgotten, it seems.

Dana White told Brawl Sports, in respect to Arlovski:

”(Arlovski’s) last showing wasn’t very great. That hurts a guy. It sets you back when you have a real bad showing like that, especially when you’re in a division that’s stacked.“

No matter his performance, he deserves a shot. He is, after all, a former UFC World Heavyweight Champion. That should mean something.

Arlovski's camp, as reported by UFCJunkie.com, has stated that they are still not on ANY card. A lay-off now stretching to the four month mark.

And this whole issue brings up one very important question: Why should performance matter as much as victory? Matt Hughes is on the verge of a title shot after one of his worst fights ever at UFC 68: THE UPRISING

I have yet to see a Bernard Hopkins, Jermaine Taylor, Winky Wright, or Floyd Mayweather, Jr. fight that I would pay to see (even though I have paid to see them). Boxing is filled with plenty of men who love to win and love the winnings, but don't especially like to get hit to deliver a hit. Why should MMA be any different? Each fighter should have the freedom of fighting however they see fit. It's their lives and limbs on the line anyways, isn't it?

And I don't believe Dana White realizes that different fights create different fighters. Why would Arlovski, a very good striker, put a title shot and win on the line just to show off? He was fighting a Brazilian Jui-Jitsu black belt, after all. Why risk it if you don't have to?

Dana White also doesn't realize that the "Performance" excuse is supposed to be used in the WWE and TNA, not in a legitimate sport.

And if he wants to bring up awful performances, and with all due respect, why in hell did Gabriel Gonzaga get a title eliminator fight with Cro Cop, but Arlovski can't even steal a fight? If the UFC gave up on Gonzaga as easily as they're giving up on Arlovski, we would have never seen one of the great MMA stories in recent years unfold before our eyes.

This is a sport. Schedule the fights and let the men fight. Don't assume one off night translates into a bad career.

If he had to it over again (Hindsight 20/20), Arlovski would fight his last fight with Sylvia differently. But, then again, he did what he could.

And one final remark on what White said:

Since when was the UFC Heavyweight division ever stacked? NEVER! Sylvia was a champion nearly by default. Just because three new guys come in, doesn't mean the problem is fixed. The UFC's Heavyweight division has almost always been the laughing stock of MMA while PRIDE's Heavyweight division will forever be remembered as the best, the deepest, and the most competitive.

And before we all just blame the fighter, let's for once point the finger at the booker.

Silva has a very choppy record when it comes to producing great cards.

A striker versus a BJJ black belt is going to be a boring, long fight almost 80% of the time.

Like in Professional Wrestling, different styles make different matches. And when a great striker fights a great BJJ man, the results are usually yawn worthy.

Try putting Arlovski against Kongo? Or Cro Cop, which should have been the original eliminator, in my opinion. A fight against Heath Herring or even Nogueira could be classics. But if the UFC continues to live in "Vince McMahon Land", none of it will happen.

This situation reminds me of the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers. Every week, more and more detractors came out of the wood work. "They can't do it", "It's never been done before", and the like.

But then, isn't that why we play the games?

And isn't that why they fight?

This type of front office politics will KILL MMA if it's not stopped. If they won't use the man, let him go. I know a few MMA promotions who would love to have Arlovski shake up their heavyweight divisions.
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Article on CroCop/Gonzaga

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This is the story: April 2007, Saturday night in Manchester. Gonzaga was getting ready for a fight against Cro Cop, one of the greatest Ultimate Fight names in the world. Gonzaga, a guy who very few people have heard of and very few gave him a chance (apart from Couture and UFC official commentator Rogan), shocked the fighting world. With a victory, but perhaps even more with the way of victory.

-I cried at practices before the fight against Mirko.

He admitted that much. But, the Manchester story, the one which I have heard is even more interesting. Gonzaga showed up on torn jeans and odd tennis shoes to say the least. Not because of fashion.

-He was on the verge of bankruptcy; this was a fight for all or nothing. This is how he entered the match, as if this was his last chance in life- a member of Mirko`s team told me, who wanted to remain anonymous.

A chance which he took. One round, one round was all it took for his life to turn upside down. Regardless of the outcome, Gabriel Napao Gonzaga was guaranteed 30,000 dollars and Mirko 350,000, almost 12 times more. This is what the ratio was when it came to motivation, but in Gonzaga`s favour.

This was the Brazilian’s final chance to remain on the MMA scene, this is how he entered the cage. By the end of the evening, he became the man of the day and he earned 30,000 dollars of bonus for the knock-out of the evening. Also, he afforded a fight for the title next week (August 25) in Las Vegas and revealed how he got Mirko before this match.

-The plan was perfect. Who must not run away from Cro Cop, you are dead then. You have to remain close to him, put pressure, be aggressive. This is what Fedor did and what I did.

But, Gonzaga was not aware of the effect this defeat has made on the Croatian fighter. After he healed his wounds, we went on a “vengeance mission”. Best Thai boxing masters are at his disposal Dutchman Bonjasky, Yvel and their coach who has become Mirko`s coach in the meantime, Thai boxing legend Ivan Hippolyte. Jiu jitsu specialist Dean Lister is with him, the Dutch are returning again next week, the cage has arrived. And the motive is sky high.

We feel sorry for Frenchman Kongo, he got in the way, and we can say with certainty, in the wrong time. He crawled into some hole, there are no spectacular statements, he is working and keeping quiet. He is preparing for London and is aware that Mirko is eager and can hardly wait for a new fight in order to correct the poor April day.

But, at the same time, Minotaur cannot rest assured. He is supposed to be the next in line, a stop until the title fight and he has been on Mirko`s wish list for a long time now because of some unsettled scores from the past. Vengeance can be sweet.

Recovery which was extremely painful, practices to die for, arrivals of many famous and good sparing partners in Zagreb, Kongo as the next opponent, London as the next city in line and only one person to blame – Gabriel Napao Gonzaga.
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Awsome Chuck interview...

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By Percy Crawford | August 14, 2007



FightHype.com recently caught up with former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell to talk about his training for his upcoming clash with Keith Jardine at UFC 76 on September 22nd at The Honda Center in Anaheim California. You don't want to miss what he had to say about Jardine, Wanderlei Silva, Quinton Jackson, Shogun Rua and much more.

PC: How have you been doing my man?

CL: I'm doing great; training hard and getting ready.

PC: How is your training going for this fight and who are some of the guys you are training with?

CL: I train with the same guys I've always trained with: Glover Teixeira, Scott Lighty, John Hackleman, you know, my trainer, Scott Adams, Chuck Sandler and Eric Swartz.

PC: Before we get into the fight with Keith, you have MMAJacked.com coming out. Can you tell us about the site a little bit?

CL: It's coming along good. I'm trying to get a website where it has all of the things that I want on it. If I was a fan, I would want interviews with good fighters. It's a social network, obviously, but it's one of them things where I'm trying to connect with everyone. I'm trying to make it like a fight finder thing. I want to know records. I want to be able to go on there and if I'm in a strange town, know what gyms they have there and go talk to people and hang out. If someone is in a gym in Obispo, they could find out where I'm training at; or if they're going to Illinois, find out where Matt Hughes is training at. I want to have that information available on the website.

PC: Are you a big football fan and if so, I'm sure you are looking forward to the season coming up?

CL: I am a big football fan. I do Fantasy Football every year; usually a couple of leagues. I'm a Green Bay fan, except for my boys which is the Chargers. I have friends on the Chargers. Lorenzo Neal is a good friend of mine and as long as he is playing with the Chargers, I'm a Chargers fan. They're tough man. Neal is a bad man at fullback. Every back behind him has always gotten 1,000 yards.

PC: Yeah, I knew you used to play, but I didn't know if you were still into it.

CL: Yeah, I played in high school and 1 year of college.

PC: What made you give up football?

CL: It was going back and fourth between…and honestly, to tell the truth, they were trying to get me bigger and saying, "You need to get bigger." I was getting a lot of pressure to use something to make me bigger that wasn't natural. I was working out 6 days a week as hard as I could and I wasn't getting any bigger. It wasn't worth it to me. I was playing Division 2 football and doing steroids and that stuff was not worth it to me to play.

PC: Have you had a chance to get a vacation since the Rampage fight?

CL: I started training a week later. I started training again a week later and I found time for little things to have fun. I spent time with my kids; went to Disneyland and did that kind of thing and had a blast and stuff like that, but for the most part, I've been back to training. I just want to get back out there and fight.

PC: How important was it for you to get right back in the gym because John told me that you used to take a month or so off to just do Chuck?

CL: That's one of the things we've talked about. Me and John talked about it and it's one of those things where I'm getting older now and I just can't take that much time off. You need to get back in the gym and start training. You don't have to kill yourself, but you need to be back in their working. I think a week off is perfect for me. If I have an injury, I'll take a little more time off, but without injury, a week off and then get back in the gym and start training again. I love training anyway. I love sparring, hanging out with the guys and now, I'm making enough money in the fights that I don't have to do so much peripheral stuff. Before it was hard to pass up all that stuff because we had to make up for what we weren't making in the fight, but now I make enough in the fights to where I don't have to do that extra stuff. I turned down a $10,000 autograph signing for 2 hours, but it was to spend the day with my kid. I told them, "You know what, honestly, I'm with my son. I can't do it. I'm sorry." I can't do it and that was 10 grand for 2 hours. It was important for me to stay with my kid. I'm not trying to be a dick, but you have to understand, it's not worth it for me. I get people giving me a hard time for not doing seminars. You gotta understand, if you're going to take me out of my home away from my kids for 3 days, because I would have to leave on Friday and come back on Sunday, you can't charge 10 or 15 grand for that. I can't, because you know what, I'd rather pay you 5 grand to stay home and play with my kids for those 3 days.

PC: It has to be nice to finally be able to turn things like that down to be with your family?

CL: Well back in the day, you can't. It's one of those things that's relevant to what you're making to fight. When you're making 50 grand to fight you, can't turn down a $10,000 deal. When you're making the money we're making now, you can pick and choose which one's you want to do. I'm a nice guy. I tell everybody I've been doing mixed martial arts my whole life. I will do seminars for people. If I'm in town, I'm reasonable. If I have to be in town anyway, I'll do a seminar for you very reasonably, but if you're actually asking me to leave my house to come to your town to do a seminar and then go home, it's going to cost you a lot of money. If I have to be there for some other reason, I like martial arts, I like teaching and doing that stuff so we could make something happen; especially if I know the guy. I try to help out guys. If I'm in your town for something and I know you, I don't mind doing a seminar at your school. I did a private [seminar] with a kid up in Colorado one time. He wanted to get private lessons and I'm talking to him the whole time and I find out he's working 2 jobs and putting himself through school. At the end of the lessons, he asked, "How much do I owe you?" I said, "I don't want nothing kid; get out of here." How am I going to charge the kid? I was charging $150 per private? How am I going to charge this kid who's working his way through college and just excited that I'm there? It was worth him giving up his work and all of that stuff he does to pay me 150 bucks an hour. Fuck it! I had fun with the kid. I was teaching him stuff. He's a nice kid; great guy and now me and him are friends.
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