Street Ultra Fighter IV Announced - Super Aggrivated Emo

[Blitz]

Gonna be on in a few. Join me.

[Funky Fly]

Just finished Noveria in Mass Effect. Gimme a few to wrap some shit up and I'll be there.

[Boomer]

I'm unfortunately tired as fuck. Gonna have to bail out and sleep. Ugh.

[Funky Fly]

Blitz, Drakul... get you asses to Futureshop and Play, respectively, and get some headsets.

COME ON

[Drakul]

I have a headset somewhere. I just don't use it because I don't really have anything to say and my accent is too hard to understand. The mic being crappy quality is another reason.

[Funky Fly]

All good except for Dan's. Really, a longer nose, a tan and a different symbol on his back? I know it's supposed to be his dad, but that could easily have just been an alternate colour on his original outfit.

Really liking T Hawk's Aztec warrior thing.

[Kalyx triaD]

Dudley and Streetwise Cody are cool.

[Blitz]

Can't decide if I like Guy's or not.

[Fignuts]

So we have 3 outfits for dudley, and not one is a traditional boxer outfit. Good thinking capcom.

[Funky Fly]

Originally Posted by Fignuts So we have 3 outfits for dudley, and not one is a traditional boxer outfit. Good thinking capcom.

Dudley's original costume is more like what English guys would probably box in, back in the 1800s.

[Fignuts]

Originally Posted by Funky Fly Dudley's original costume is more like what English guys would probably box in, back in the 1800s.

It's not the 1800's.

[Fignuts]

Kinda want to learn Makoto. She's REALLY hard to get good with, but if you can do it, I'll bet you could clean up with her pretty good. No one ever picks her, so opponents would probably be unfamiliar with how to deal with her, if in skilled hands.

[Khuntry]

Maybe Dudley's above traditional boxer outfit...

[Fignuts]

Screw that. I want variety. 3 "englishman" costumes, is boring, just like 3 "spanish" costumes are boring for Vega. I think every fighter should have one costume based solely on their fighting style, rather than their country of origin.

[Khuntry]

Originally Posted by Fignuts Screw that. I want variety. 3 "englishman" costumes, is boring, just like 3 "spanish" costumes are boring for Vega. I think every fighter should have one costume based solely on their fighting style, rather than their country of origin.

?... Dudley's an Englishman so all his varied costumes should relate to that. otherwise he woundnt be Dudley the brit boxer.

[Khuntry]

I really don't see whats all this bitching about costumes is for. Capcom didn't have to do it and people don't have to buy it... jeez

[Fignuts]

Originally Posted by Khuntry I really don't see whats all this bitching about costumes is for. Capcom didn't have to do it and people don't have to buy it... jeez

That is ridiculous. I'm sure in the past you've had complaints about something a developer didn't have to do.

[Khuntry]

Mitsurugi Guy.....

[Kalyx triaD]

Being that a decade prior alt. colors were the zenith of Street Fighter customization I'm good with these. The only way you could please most people is if you have a costume edit option, but like hell we'll see that in SF this generation.

Let's not forget Street Fighter is about 'cartoon' designs rather than 'cool'. Sure some attire is badass (Akuma) but when you see shoto Blanka you pretty much know their design philosophy in general.

[Fignuts]

English Boxers:

[Drakul]

[Kalyx triaD]

Those boys are kinda beastly, but my stable is set. Needs more Karin.

[Drakul]

Does anyone else find it boring the way the Japanese watch trailers? When westerners watch something like a trailer at E3, they cheer and scream when they see something they like. Japan is deathly silent until the very end when they all politely applaude.

The cheering and crowd reaction etc really adds to the fun of watching a trailer. Watching trailers from TGS is like no one was even in the room at the time.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm used to direct-feed trailers so it's actually rare I see a trailer with audience audio. Hype crowds are more familiar, but they're just reserved about it. Like Japanese pro-wrestling crowds. Remember WCW/NWO World Tour's crowd audio? Took me a while to find out it was a Japanese crowd with the 'oohs' and polite clapping. lol

[RoXer]

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD Remember WCW/NWO World Tour's crowd audio?

Ummm , like it was yesterday!

[RoXer]

What DON'T I remember from the WCW/NWO World Tour crowd audio should be the question

[Drakul]

I enjoy watching crowd reactions because it's a lot more fun that just watching the normal trailer.

Like this and this.

I've seen Japanese wrestling matches and found it harder to enjoy them because the audiance is so quiet. Only played WcW/Nwo a handful of times so can't recall the games audiance sounds.

[RoXer]

Actually, I feel bad for making fun of you because I thought you were talking about the crowd audio from like an E3 from 1997 and not the actual sound in game.

[Blitz]

Damn really can't wait to use them....but does anyone else notice how there are significantly more slots on the character select screen?

[Drakul]

My guess would be it's the middle of the animation when you start versus. Where all the character slots slide across the screen into place or off the screen once everyone chooses a character.

[Blitz]

Dammit stop ruining my hopes for Alex and Rolento with all your logic.

[Kalyx triaD]

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Heh, didn't know Dan's dad was based on Mr. Karate.

[Blitz]

Palm stuffs fireballs eh. Interesting.

[Funky Fly]

Interesting indeed.

[Drakul]

I can't really find a clear image of it but Seths new alt is heavy armour. Looks pretty cool and reminds me of The Iron Man (not the superhero, Ironman) from the old childrens book I read as a kid.

Edit: Best I can find.


Edit #2: Been working on my Seth a bit lately. I've got grapplers down so think it's time to branch out a little. Just a little unsure if it'll effect how well I can play with grapplers.

[Kalyx triaD]

[Kalyx triaD]

[Drakul]

I prefer Ultra II for both of them, based on how cool they look.

[Drakul]

Came across this article about the various stereotypes in Street Fighter II. Some of them are obvious but a few I never really noticed. It's an interesting read if you have a couple of minutes to spare. I'd really like to see a similar article about the other games/characters/stages.

Setting it to spoilers because it's fairly lengthy.

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Ethinc Sterotypes in Street Fighter 2 Apart from being a great breakthrough in arcade games and in video games in general, Street Fighter 2 was a great game for introducing colorful characters. As much as these characters had unique characteristics, they were not exactly original. In fact, the stereotypes presented about the street fighters are a good way to learn about how, at least, the game designers at Capcom view the world. Not only the characters, but the settings and background action reveal some interesting outlooks. So let's look at some of these levels, and then try to see what they mean overall. •Zangief, a large Russian wrestler is pretty much that: large and a wrestler. And he scowls a lot. Zangief could be summarized as big, dumb and mean. Zangief's stage is a bleak looking factory in Russia where men drink and holler in the background. The stereotype behind this seems to be that Russians are stupid and boisterous and succeed mostly through brute force. •Dhalsim, a skeletal Indian man who practices a form of combat Yoga that involves breathing fire, stretching out the body to improbable lengths, and teleporting. Dhalsim wears a weird costume that includes a necklace made out of skulls. Dhalsim's stage takes place in a room with six elephants. A portrait of the god Gansesha hangs in the middle of the room. All of these things seem to point towards the stereotype of Indians as being mystical, yet half-mad people. •Blanka, from Brazil, is a muscluar green skinned mutant, who acts as much like an animal as a person. While I doubt that the designers of Street Fighter literally believed that the average Brazillian man is a mutant who can make electricity run through his body, Brazil is very much depicted as a wild place with wild people. the background of Blanka's stage is a seaside fishing village where people in little clothing and no shoes watch the fighting. A gigantic snake lies coiled around a tree. The entire impression is of a primitive, unrefined society. •E. Honda is a sumo wrestler who is very large and uses a variety of techniques that,as far as I know, are not traditional sumo techniques (since he strikes and kicks, which are not typical in sumo wrestling). His stage is interesting because it contains some icons that are very specific to Japan, such as a poster in the background that shows both Mount Fuji and the Rising Sun. His stage also takes place in a very Japanese place, a room with a sauna bath in it. Interestingly enough, there are no people, or even living things present in this stage besides the fighters themselves. Despite Honda's large size, this stage has an overall impression of civility and decor. •Guile is an American, and an Air Force pilot. He has bright yellow spiky hair and wears a pair of stripped down fatigues. His attacks are very sharp, linear and muscular, but they are not wild and uncontrolled at all. This communicates someone who is direct, but not overly brutal. the background of his stage is an airforce base, where an F-16 is parked. Onlookers include three men in army costumes and one woman in a miniskirt that is not, I would imagine, air force standard issue. There is some bottles on the ground and in the people's hands. I would imagine that the liquid in these bottles is not neccesarily a soft drink. Overall, the stereotype transmitted is of some direct, rambunctious people who are still civilized. •Chun Li comes from mainland China. She is a short, cute, giggly woman who uses a variety of techniques that are rather authentic traditional kung-fu. Her techniques are very fast and agile. Since Chun Li is the only woman in the Street Fighter tournament, her character is more about being female then being Chinese. The background to her stage is full of some not very flattering stereotypes about China. In it, shopkeepers in open air stalls squeez the necks of chickens while men on bicycles ride by, watching the fight. While there are electric poles in the background, this stage makes China look like a third world nation with no sense of decor, where people on the street act as if they were at a circus. •Ken is an American who practices Karate, he uses techniques that are very strong, yet also more elongated and stretching then Guile's. He also has the cool fireball made out of (presumably) his chi. Ken, together with Ryu, is considered one of the best characters in the game to fight with. He is especially adept at counter fighting against people who jump in towards him. In other words, he is a very artistic, methodical fighter. His stage, however, is not as polite, as its main feature is a yacht full of rich, flashy people cheering loudly. This gives a split impression: a methodical figher together with an impolite audience. •Ryu, who has moves that are identical to Ken (but according to some, is played in a slightly different manner). However, although the fighters are much the same, their stages are very different: the Ryu stage has a background that is very sedate: a temple at night, with the Holyhock Crest showing, and a moon hidden by drifting clouds. A very serene and serious place. Overall, there seems to be clear bias against European and American culture in the game, or at least a bias that most people would find unfavorable. The three stages with no onlookers are all in Asia, and both Japanese stages have no onlookers. The only Asian stage with onlookers is China. In addition, the Russian and American stages depict people drinking. The fighters who are not Japanese are depicted as animalistic (Blanka), primitive (Dhalsim) or brutal (Zangief). Chun Li plays in a dirty area, but her fighting abilities are depicted as artistic. Guile and Ken are both depicted as good, clean fighters, but are marred by onlookers who are acting impolite. E. Honda is not depicted as an extremly beautiful fighter, but his stage is a symbol of cleanliness. Ryu combines a clean, beautiful fighting technique with a serene, beautiful location. So, to sum up, Street Fighter II seems to display Japanese culture in the best light, followed by America and China. The third world nations of India, Russia and Brazil come in extremly unfavorably. I think that this view of a hierarchy of nations is probably fairly common, if not explicably stated, in Japanese society in general.

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