TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > w r e s t l i n g > wrestling forum
Reload this Page What is next for Shawn Michaels?
Register Members List

Reply
Page 2 of 2 1 2
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-20-2009, 11:07 PM   #1
Casey Jones
Bringing Logic Back
 
Posts: 184
Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sting Fan View Post
He didnt say Punk should do nothing but batle the midcard until then, he just said Punk should be in MITB to create a bit of a streak.

I see no issue with it, Punk can be built well and still enter MITB, either way its a Title opportunity and if he has been built right all year he will bring some of that credibility back to MITB.

Personaly I would see winning MITB more than once as being a Main Event talent, it shouldnt be a blight on your career. Hell you dont see people cryign about winning the Rumble, its considered one of the biggest rubs in the business. MITB COULD be built the same way.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sting Fan View Post
Personaly I would see winning MITB more than once as being a Main Event talent, it shouldnt be a blight on your career. Hell you dont see people cryign about winning the Rumble, its considered one of the biggest rubs in the business. MITB COULD be built the same way.
Few things:

1) There's a HUGE difference between winning the Royal Rumble and winning MITB. Winning the Royal Rumble is designated for main-event guys...or guys that will be pushed as main-eventers even if it's temporary (i.e. Benoit, Mysterio).

2) Being an MITB champ is basically the modern day equivalent of being a King of The Ring champ. It's designated for people that are promising mid-carders. Furthermore - MITB, just as KOTR was in the past, should only be used to launch the careers of up-and-comers.

Your post demonstrates to me that you do not have a clear understanding of how to elevate mid-card talent.

By your logic, Austin should have won KOTR two or three years in a row, instead of allowing someone like Hunter Hearst Helmsley or Ken Shamrock to step up.

Please put some actual thought before you post next time.
Casey Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:17 PM   #2
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,569
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey Jones View Post
Few things:

1) There's a HUGE difference between winning the Royal Rumble and winning MITB. Winning the Royal Rumble is designated for main-event guys...or guys that will be pushed as main-eventers even if it's temporary (i.e. Benoit, Mysterio).

2) Being an MITB champ is basically the modern day equivalent of being a King of The Ring champ. It's designated for people that are promising mid-carders. Furthermore - MITB, just as KOTR was in the past, should only be used to launch the careers of up-and-comers.

Your post demonstrates to me that you do not have a clear understanding of how to elevate mid-card talent.

By your logic, Austin should have won KOTR two or three years in a row, instead of allowing someone like Hunter Hearst Helmsley or Ken Shamrock to step up.

Please put some actual thought before you post next time.
Yeah, there is a huge difference between the Royal Rumble and Money in the Bank. The Rumble is for a title shot at WrestleMania, and Money in the Bank is people competing at WrestleMania for a title shot.

What you have to realise about MITB is that it is pretty much for a guaranteed World Championship. People say they want to see someone lose with the briefcase, but how fucking ridiculous will they look? You can pretty much run down the World Heavyweight Champion, roll him into a ring, and get a referee to count and get your name forever in the history books.

In the world of kayfabe, the World Championship brings you a lot of money and success, so I see no reason why a guy should lose with the briefcase. Essentially what you are doing with Money in the Bank is saying "You will be a World Champion within a year" to a guy. That should not be for your strict mid-carders. Yes, guys can get elevated with it, but what the match literally is, is a way to get a guy into a position where his booking is urgent. It's putting a star next to a guy's name saying "look after him, because he'll be WWE or World Heavyweight Champion by WrestleMania next year."

That can be a guy breaking through, or it could be a guy who has been to the top before, or it can be a repeat winner like it is this year. Sometimes MITB is not suitable to raise a guy through the ranks. It's a bit of a "cheap" way to win the title. That perspective should change, but if you raise a guy with the win every year, then it runs the risk of becoming a mid-carder's match, and a bit of a joke.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:15 PM   #3
Sting Fan
Blander Than Ever
 
Sting Fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,092
Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Few things...

Why quote the post then then part of the same said post in your one post???

Your post demonstrates to me that you do not have a clear understanding of how to use the quote function properly.

By your logic, we should all quote parts of another persons post multiple times to make a point about each paragraph.

Please put some actual thought before you post next time...




But seriously knoblet do you actualy think winning Royal Rumble had cred from day one?

No it did not, hence why it needs to be built up by being won by established stars. If Punk is a two or more time champ (I cant keep up with title reigns anymore) by the time he goes into MITB next year I dont see how he can be built up much more without knoking out HHH and taking a dump on his chest in the ME of Mania.

By building the match up you also build up winners of the match thereby creating new stars.


Quote:
Your post demonstrates to me that you do not have a clear understanding of how to elevate mid-card talent.
I agree, you really just dont get it and you should put your keyboard down and just go back to playing SVR all day.

Kthxbye.
Sting Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:28 PM   #4
Casey Jones
Bringing Logic Back
 
Posts: 184
Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sting Fan View Post



But seriously knoblet do you actualy think winning Royal Rumble had cred from day one?

No it did not, hence why it needs to be built up by being won by established stars.
Chris Benoit...2004.

Dave Batista....2005.

Rey Mysterio....2006.

All examples of wrestlers that were rising upper mid-card wrestlers, and used the Royal Rumble as a platform to be propelled into the main-event scene.

Please do your research with more due diligence next time.

Moron.
Casey Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:34 PM   #5
thecc
Polyam cult member #420
 
thecc's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,966
thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey Jones View Post
Chris Benoit...2004.

Dave Batista....2005.

Rey Mysterio....2006.

All examples of wrestlers that were rising upper mid-card wrestlers, and used the Royal Rumble as a platform to be propelled into the main-event scene.

Please do your research with more due diligence next time.

Moron.
lol
thecc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:39 PM   #6
Casey Jones
Bringing Logic Back
 
Posts: 184
Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Casey Jones has a great deal of rep (15,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by thecc View Post
lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfWEn...eature=related

p.s. lol?
Casey Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:44 PM   #7
thecc
Polyam cult member #420
 
thecc's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,966
thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)thecc is good (20,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey Jones View Post
The only reason Mysterio won was because of Eddie Guerrero's death and after he won, he certainly wasn't propelled to main even status.
thecc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:21 PM   #8
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,569
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Sting Fan pretty much has it. If Punk goes back into the match a three-time World Champion (counting his ECW Title reign), or more, and a two-time winner of the match, it instantly gets boosted. It looks like a bigger deal than eight new goofs trying to kill each other, with the fans having no real reason to see any of them as a real title threat until they win.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:23 PM   #9
Sting Fan
Blander Than Ever
 
Sting Fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,092
Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Eddie and Benoit started out 6 feet under????3
Sting Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:24 PM   #10
Sting Fan
Blander Than Ever
 
Sting Fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,092
Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Oh and BTW, yelling over the internet doesnt make you right.
Sting Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:27 PM   #11
sulzerdrone
Next medium sized thing.
 
sulzerdrone's Avatar
 
Posts: 578
sulzerdrone is "reptacular" (2,500+)sulzerdrone is "reptacular" (2,500+)sulzerdrone is "reptacular" (2,500+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sting Fan View Post
Oh and BTW, yelling over the internet doesnt make you right.
And neither does unprovoked attacks. I'm amazed Noid and Sting Fan are even debating you at this point.
sulzerdrone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:35 PM   #12
Sting Fan
Blander Than Ever
 
Sting Fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,092
Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sulzerdrone View Post
And neither does unprovoked attacks. I'm amazed Noid and Sting Fan are even debating you at this point.
Its my day off and Im waiting on some parts to come for my car, this is filling time for me.

Quote:
Chris Benoit...2004.

Dave Batista....2005.

Rey Mysterio....2006.

All examples of wrestlers that were rising upper mid-card wrestlers, and used the Royal Rumble as a platform to be propelled into the main-event scene.

Please do your research with more due diligence next time.

Moron.
Sorry I forgot the WWE Royal Rumble appeared for the first time in 2004, it had never been won by any superstar before and so Vinnie Mac shat gold by declaring the Royal Rumble to be the greatest match of all time leading you to a Mania Title shot.

Also Orton won last year - Established star.

Cena the Year befre - Established star.

Austin won it more than once I beleive - Established star at least once im going to guess.

Look I dont even have to research, my guesses are better informed than your research.
Sting Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:35 PM   #13
sulzerdrone
Next medium sized thing.
 
sulzerdrone's Avatar
 
Posts: 578
sulzerdrone is "reptacular" (2,500+)sulzerdrone is "reptacular" (2,500+)sulzerdrone is "reptacular" (2,500+)
What planet are you from Mr. Jones? That's not how I, or any other human read that post. You're so wrapped up in your own bullshit that you're not even contemplating anyone elses ideas. Why don't you go take some anti-depressants, fuck your boyfriend, and get a good nights sleep. Maybe it'll clear your head a little.
sulzerdrone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 11:46 PM   #14
Sting Fan
Blander Than Ever
 
Sting Fan's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,092
Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Sting Fan has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
He was Eddie shrunk in the wash and babyfaced up some more.
Sting Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:56 AM.

Forums Home - TPWW - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin®