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Old 04-29-2010, 04:59 PM   #1
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He came from WCW, another "mainstream" fed. Not out of a bingo hall
Pegasus Kid. Look into it dipshit. Benoit started in ECW.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:59 PM   #2
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Pegasus Kid. Look into it dipshit. Benoit started in ECW.
Nope, ECW was a MAINSTREAM promotion! And Japan doesn't mean jack shit!
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Nope, ECW was a MAINSTREAM promotion! And Japan doesn't mean jack shit!
Regardless Fella, he at one point wrestled in a bingo hall.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:01 PM   #4
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Pegasus Kid. Look into it dipshit. Benoit started in ECW.
Where did he come from right BEFORE he arrived in WWE? Yeah, that's what I thought. Keep quiet thanks.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:03 PM   #5
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Where did he come from right BEFORE he arrived in WWE? Yeah, that's what I thought. Keep quiet thanks.
Where did he come from BEFORE he arrived to WCW? WCW, a national promotion?
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:04 PM   #6
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Where did he come from right BEFORE he arrived in WWE? Yeah, that's what I thought. Keep quiet thanks.
What does that have to do with anything? Go back to fucking your goat.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:07 PM   #7
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@ Xero being told to keep quiet... That's hilarious.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:46 PM   #8
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He came from ECW to WCW. He came from the bingo hall.
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Tazz came from the bingo hall and beat Kurt Angle's undefeated streak right out of the gate. I'm perfectly aware of where his career went, but that was huge for a "bingo haller" to do something like that.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:51 PM   #10
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Tazz came from the bingo hall and beat Kurt Angle's undefeated streak right out of the gate. I'm perfectly aware of where his career went, but that was huge for a "bingo haller" to do something like that.
He came from ECW, another some what "mainstream" fed that was actually on TV across the United States and Canada and was a multiple world champion.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:55 PM   #11
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He came from ECW, another some what "mainstream" fed that was actually on TV across the United States and Canada and was a multiple world champion.
Did you by chance catch ECW on TV at the time? Where were their shows held? Any ideas, fella?
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:48 PM   #12
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Except he doesn't have the body of Ric Flair. He just doesn't overroid.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:49 PM   #13
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:50 PM   #14
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:53 PM   #15
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So define bingo hall.

ROH? Below ROH?

What about all his work in Japan? He wrestled in fucking New Japan. Is that moot? Working in one of if not Japan's biggest wrestling promotion?
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So define bingo hall.

ROH? Below ROH?

What about all his work in Japan? He wrestled in fucking New Japan. Is that moot? Working in one of if not Japan's biggest wrestling promotion.
Everyone in North America, expect for you IWC retards, have no idea about what happens in Japan, so yes, for the regular fans, and the TARGET MARKET of the WWE it is completely moot.
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im sure it was hell in the 'bingo hall'
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:57 PM   #18
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So basically, to be successful you have to be known to the mainstream audience in WWE before debuting....

Is that what you're saying?
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So basically, to be successful you have to be known to the mainstream audience in WWE before debuting....

Is that what you're saying?
Kinda sounds like it...
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Name calling isn't going to prove your point, fella.
Also, come to think of it your whole argument is based off of your opinion. That doesn't really work out so well.
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No. I am saying Bryan Danielson cannot, and will not be successful.
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No. I am saying Bryan Danielson cannot, and will not be successful.
People said the same thing about The Undertaker and Rey Mysterio.
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People said the same thing about The Undertaker and Rey Mysterio.
Hell that very statement was made about quite a few wrestlers that went on to make it big. Quite the list.
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People said the same thing about The Undertaker and Rey Mysterio.
No they didn't.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:15 PM   #24
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No they didn't.
Now I know why I tend to stay out of this forum and I now also feel Juan's pain.
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Now I know why I tend to stay out of this forum and I now also feel Juan's pain.
We're cool, fella. Don't let the trolls get to ya.
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No they didn't.


When he debuted with it, no one ever thought Taker would last with The Deadman gimmick.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:21 PM   #27
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When he debuted with it, no one ever thought Taker would last with The Deadman gimmick.
Thank you Screech for knowing your shit.
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I will say he's a pretty good sock/troll. Kudos, sir. We all know you're a smark.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:06 PM   #29
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Seriously, you're ignoring his ECW-WCW jump.
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You all can be fan boys all you want. And I have no idea why you all are. But he won't make it. I'm sorry. He has no gimmick, he has no mic skills...he would have made it in the 80's but he won't make it now. I know it's cool to vote for the underdog. But seriously, I think this is one of those things where the most of you just wanted to jump on the band wagon. Just make sure you jump back off before it goes off the cliff.
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You all can be fan boys all you want. And I have no idea why you all are. But he won't make it. I'm sorry. He has no gimmick, he has no mic skills...he would have made it in the 80's but he won't make it now. I know it's cool to vote for the underdog. But seriously, I think this is one of those things where the most of you just wanted to jump on the band wagon. Just make sure you jump back off before it goes off the cliff.
mic skills + gimmick = wrestler ?

there are so many other factors you are missing
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mic skills + gimmick = wrestler ?

there are so many other factors you are missing
John Cena, Goldberg, Batista
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John Cena, Goldberg, Batista
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You do realize that they brought him in for a reason, right?

They put him against CHRIS JERICHO, the WORLD CHAMPION, in his first match. You're going to tell me that, at the very least, WWE doesn't see something good in him? For having his first match, which was quite competitive, against the world champion?
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You do realize that they brought him in for a reason, right?

They put him against CHRIS JERICHO, the WORLD CHAMPION, in his first match. You're going to tell me that, at the very least, WWE doesn't see something good in him? For having his first match, which was quite competitive, against the world champion?
What has he done since? They had the perfect opportunity to showcase him to a "huge" audience by hosting Monday Night Raw but instead they chose Kate Hudson's man. What does that tell you? Not too mention, I believe that match was on the debut show of NXT, and the WWE wanted to do something "special."
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What has he done since? They had the perfect opportunity to showcase him to a "huge" audience by hosting Monday Night Raw but instead they chose Kate Hudson's man. What does that tell you? Not too mention, I believe that match was on the debut show of NXT, and the WWE wanted to do something "special."
why do you think that the wwe are having him lose every match?

wwe have huge plans for danielson and also otunga
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why do you think that the wwe are having him lose every match?

wwe have huge plans for danielson and also otunga
Otunga yes.
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What has he done since? They had the perfect opportunity to showcase him to a "huge" audience by hosting Monday Night Raw but instead they chose Kate Hudson's man. What does that tell you? Not too mention, I believe that match was on the debut show of NXT, and the WWE wanted to do something "special."
I don't think Danielson could come right in and get a title shot. I think that's ludicrous and I think anybody who was saying that he should come in anywhere near the top of the card was a fucking moron. He needs to start at the bottom and work his way up. I've always said this.

As for Otunga, of course he's getting the guest host spot. His strength lies in talking and charisma, and outside of Barrett, no one else on NXT comes close. Plus he has the free publicity of being Kate Hudson's finance. Why would they put Danielson in a spot he would never be able to fill? As Heyman says, accentuate the positives, hide the negatives.

I don't put much into what they're doing with him in terms of the losing streak or being cocky with the challenges. I won't armchair it here because I know how much you hate that, but until he's out of NXT and on the main roster, don't think you're seeing everything you've seen about Danielson. They're building him up by breaking him down, it's logical and it's a bit obvious in where they're taking it.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:25 PM   #39
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I don't think Danielson could come right in and get a title shot. I think that's ludicrous and I think anybody who was saying that he should come in anywhere near the top of the card was a fucking moron. He needs to start at the bottom and work his way up. I've always said this.

As for Otunga, of course he's getting the guest host spot. His strength lies in talking and charisma, and outside of Barrett, no one else on NXT comes close. Plus he has the free publicity of being Kate Husband's finance. Why would they put Danielson in a spot he would never be able to fill? As Heyman says, accentuate the positives, hide the negatives.

I don't put much into what they're doing with him in terms of the losing streak or being cocky with the challenges. I won't armchair it here because I know how much you hate that, but until he's out of NXT and on the main roster, don't think you're seeing everything you've seen about Danielson. They're building him up by breaking him down, it's logical and it's a bit obvious in where they're taking it.
You may have a point here, however, with the way WWE is starting to build their young stars and pushing other talent (Sheamus, Orton, Dibiase, Punk, Swagger, Hart Dynasty) not too mention that the Smackdown roster is filled with guys that are just waiting for that push ( Kingston, Rhodes, ect.) I don't see this Danielson guy making it big anytime soon.
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You all can be fan boys all you want. And I have no idea why you all are. But he won't make it. I'm sorry. He has no gimmick, he has no mic skills...he would have made it in the 80's but he won't make it now. I know it's cool to vote for the underdog. But seriously, I think this is one of those things where the most of you just wanted to jump on the band wagon. Just make sure you jump back off before it goes off the cliff.
Benoit had no personality to speak of, and people got behind his skill and determination. The vast of WWE's current talent isn't gimmick-oriented these days; they're mostly straight personas. In fact, the 80s was nothing BUT gimmicks, which means you're impressively wrong.

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Your examples of superior wrestlers are three guys that can't wrestle and can barely pass as listenable?

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You may have a point here, however, with the way WWE is starting to build their young stars and pushing other talent (Sheamus, Orton, Dibiase, Punk, Swagger, Hart Dynasty) not too mention that the Smackdown roster is filled with guys that are just waiting for that push ( Kingston, Rhodes, ect.) I don't see this Danielson guy making it big anytime soon.
...What? You admit the company is pushing new talent...and then say this particular new guy won't be utilized? Yeah, that computes.
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