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**Schlomey** · 07-30-2010, 12:47 PM

I love everything about Vintage Championship Wrestling.

I love the storylines. The Greed video makes me want to find out what happens Now. The International Title chase is a great idea too.

Yea i voted for it again.

**Flash Funk** · 07-30-2010, 04:53 PM

Where are all the critiques? Don't tell me people have lost interest after only one week...

**Lock Jaw** · 07-30-2010, 05:17 PM

Lock Jaw's Fantastic Reviews, Week Two!

Greetings to you, the bookers! Welcome to this week's review from Judge Lock Jaw! Five shows, each with their own merits! But how do they stack against each other when going head to head? Find out using Judge Lock Jaw's unique judging system!

For the purposes of judging, I will be placing each show side by side, as if they were on at the same time. I will be giving out points. 3 for what the causal fan would watch (assuming they have no brand loyalty and are just switching between all shows like me), 2 for what I would watch, and 1 for what I would first watch on youtube the next day. I'll also give a bonus .5 points for one of the other feds, just because I can.

So, without further ado... (under spoilers just to keep it more concise)

Opening Segments

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VCW starts off its show with Joe Perfect. A great way to kick things off, as many fans have been talking about this personality change and will no doubt want to see what it is all about. Unfortunately, things go downhill from there as Joe Perfect loses via intentional count-out to Randy Orton. He does slap Hulk Hogan, but he winds up looking somewhat of a coward. Mr. Anderson then comes out and Randy Orton runs away, making Orton look like a coward as well.

SCW opens with more tag team round-robin action as we see The British Guys defeat the Young Bucks. British Guys also get some promo time pre-match to establish their characters and legitimacy.

DWW inexplicably opens up with JTG defeating Jesse Neal, which is a pretty horrible way to open a show. Thankfully, it is a quick match, and we move into an interview with The Miz. Miz bashes the other companies, which is a nice touch. He vows to retire champion. Miz is again presented as an unstoppable force, and it seems that in the history of this company, Rey Mysterio has been the only one to beat him, and since then Miz has beaten him thoroughly multiple times and sent him home injured. So that further closes that angle. Not sure I buy Miz as an unstoppable force, either.

TIW opens with Foley setting up the main events and set up for the PPV. He says that Christian/RVD/Styles proved themselves and will face each other for a shot to be in the title match. Then despite not proving themselves and being the losers, it is announced that the same deal will happen between Sheamus/McIntyre/Ziggler next week, which seems like a flimsy setup to keep things face vs heel. Samoa Joe then squashes Otunga and Kozlov, further solidifying him as a monster at the expense of others.

LAW sees an awkward segment where Jericho/Big Show/Wolfe all interrupt each other before talking. Then Wolfe and Jericho both make statements (while Big Show forgets about saying anything). Cena then comes out and says he wants the title. Main events are set.

Verdict: VCW is definitely the strongest, building off of a point of interest from last week.

Casual Fan Watches: VCW (+3 Points)
Lock Jaw Watches: VCW (+2 Points)
First to get Youtube'd: DWW (+1 Point) I probably would have watched this one first if I didn't see JTG and Jesse Neal right off the bat.
Bonus: LAW for giving Wolfe some mic time, and more references to The Incident (+0.5 Points)

Section #1

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Section #2

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Section #3

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Main Events:

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Final Tally

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The Buzz

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XL · 07-30-2010, 05:26 PM

I love Lock Jaw's reviews. Disagree with a few points but meh, that's to be expected. Good work

**Swiss Ultimate** · 07-30-2010, 07:44 PM

We're not going to agree with everything but, I do enjoy all the reviews so far.

**Swiss Ultimate** · 07-30-2010, 08:05 PM

I'm just wondering after all the shows are out if the series will be graded as a whole? I'd like to know who developed the most balanced and well-paced angles in the opinions of TPPW.

**Armchair Booker** · 07-31-2010, 12:50 PM

DWW Booker here to explain a few things:

British Tigers are made up of former Global Elite stable mates Rob Terry and Brutus Magnus. Both are from TNA. I didn't stick them together just because they're both British.

MVP and JTG were put together because of their common race, and criminal pasts. Also both from the same company.

Rey Mysterio is not my #1 baby-face, he's top 5 though. I also don't consider his defeat and injury at the hands of Miz a "clean" win. The Burning Hammer is a move that has legitimately broken many necks throughout the sport. Kayfabe-wise it's extremely dangerous. Rey Mysterio was down and instead of going for the win, The Miz attempted to end his career.

The Miz is not unstoppable like Brock Lesnar, he's just very motivated and extremely tricky. He has managed to hold onto the title for the majority of the life of DWW and doesn't have plans on losing it to some goody-goody like Evan Bourne, a psychopathic garbage wrestler like Rhino or that douche he used to tag with John Morrison.

The World and World Tag Team titles are considered to be "equal" in the eyes of DWW and Terry Funk. Those people in contention for the titles are considered to be Main Event to Upper-Midcard status.

I've enjoyed all the comments. I hope you guys like what I'm going for. Something of a mixture of WCW and ECW (that's what I'm trying for.)

**James Steele** · 07-31-2010, 11:57 PM

I'll be very brief:

VCW
Once again, VCW was leaps and bounds ahead of the competition. I think it has a little bit of everything and I am loving the cliffhanger with Triple H. Orton/Anderson was an awesome way to open the show. I loved the Joe Perfect/Hogan incident and to see the explanation next week. Top to bottom just a great show!

DWW
DWW skyrocketed this week in my rankings. I don't know if I just got a better grasp on the show or if it was just "cleaner" this week but I loved it. The Miz is a shining star in DWW and I look forward to see where his character progresses. The opening tag match was good. .

SCW
Similar to LAW and TIW, but a bit more detailed which helps bring out the imagination and visualization of the content. I like the tag team focus, and it has that young vibe to it that has some energy to it. Keep it up.

LAW
LAW and TIW are very similar in their "compact" style, so there isn't a whole lot to bring out the imagination when visualizing the storylines and matches presented. Good show, and keep it up. I feel that all the feds are pretty even, except for VCW who has gotten a hotter start and DWW who stepped it up this week.

TIW
While compact, there was some good stuff in the show. Undertaker/Foley was nice. I like the direction you are going with Ted DiBiase. I personally would like to see more storylines but I get a RoH vibe from TIW. (Probably why its called THIS IS WRESTLING eh?)

**Impeccable** · 08-01-2010, 11:44 AM

I've been looking forward to this since the first week. Only just got round to reading it all. Have been on holiday this week, and trying to get through chunks of it on my mobile phone while I was away from home.

I love all the shows. Some are admittedly stronger than others.

My thoughts on each;

Vintage Championship Wrestling

This is so well written, and I love Hogan and Cole on commentary. It probably shouldn't work, but it does.
I think I'm a mark for Joe Perfect - Orton vs Joe Perfect was a great idea, but I wondered how you would keep Joe strong when up against Orton, who let's be fair to say should be going over Joe perfect every day of the week..excellent booking!
Mr. Anderson going over Khali was a given, but keeps Anderson's momentum up.
Looking forward to seeing how the Anderson/Orton feud simmers and then spills over.
Not a fan of the Uso's or the Dudleys in real life, so maybe I'm biased, but I feel the tag division of VCW is probably the weak link. Not sure how you can build the tag divison based on these two teams.
Cody Rhodes with a mean streak - that shit is OVER
In the International championship scene, I feel that everyone who has gone through is of the right caliber/overness for the belt. There is no real need to build characters yet, as they all have a purpose in chasing the title. I've got my fingers crossed for Henry.
"The Real" Jay Lethal =
Heel Triple H =
Jay Lethal over heel Triple H =
Interested to see where the "greed" signs go. It's very interesting.
While VCW is a clear leader already, I think it possibly benefits from it's position as first at the moment. After reading it, I tried to read SCW, but had to stop and leave it for a bit. How do you follow something written and booked that well? VCW sets the bar so high.

Superb Championship Wrestling

I love tag team wrestling. SCW has tag team wrestling! Some brilliant teams and combinations, and I probably already mark out for Regal and Williams as a team!
I love the idea of a round robin for the tag team division.
Not sure if I'm supposed to find Heath Slater as comical as I do, but if I am supposed to, it's working. Genius booking.
Like Archer and Hawkins, and could see them a a good addition to the tag team division. Hawkins mic work was well written, and the match between Archer and Edge made sense and had a back story.
Having said that, not sure Hawkins vs Edge as a feud would sustain my interest. There's not enough in it at the moment. It will be interesting to see how this is booked to make Hawkins look like a real threat (and that is the aim of armchair warfare). I hope to be proved wrong.
Love the chemistry between the Hardy's, and want to see a feud between them. Well booked tag match to advance this storyline.
The show possibly needed more Flair.
20 man battle royal, well booked, and advanced more stories than you'd think it was possible to.
Angle vs Swagger...excellent combination for the main event of the first PPV.
Overall, good show and well booked, planting the seeds (or in some cases growing the seeds) for further feuds and matches.

Dead Wrong Wrestling

Loved the opening and Gertner and Raven interaction. Doesn't feel forced.
Opening match would have had me switching over (sorry). JTG vs Jesse Neal...ugh.
Raven/Miz interview - segment of the week for me (across all shows).
How awesome and evil is the Miz coming across?
Homicide vs Amazing Red vs Primo would have probably been a better opening match. It's a good combination of styles, and glad to see Red pick up the win.
Will be interesting to see how Homicide reacts to losses.
MVP and Sharkboy? Wassupwidat team? Wierd, but probably quite comical.
Felt that Kofi and Morrison are wasted teaming. Could add much more to singles division.
Love the fact that Rhino is getting a push. Of all the guys across all the brands, I am most happy that he is getting a deserved run in the main event.
Main event tag match - meh. Personally, I wouldn't have had the tag match followed by interview to end the show.
Kind of feel that the organisation suffers from lack of starpower, maybe drew the short straw in the roster picks? That's why it was a great idea to have the fed already started and established and give everyone a bit of back story.

This Is Wrestling

Commissioner Foley makes me feel like I've travelled back to late 2000. I like it.
Love how Samoa Joe is being portrayed as un unstoppable machine. Fits his character.
Women's wrestling...fast forward...glad Nattie went over in the end.
Beer Money vs Hernandez and Chavo get's a big thumbs up from me. Like the story behind why Hernandez feels the need to save Chavo
Ted DiBiase and Michelle McCool causing money related havoc also get's a big thumbs up. However, I cannot believe that Ted AND Michelle would be run out by Nattie.
Evil Taker!!! Wow. I love absolutely love the way he explained his actions. Perfect!
Samoa Joe vs Undertaker! Now that's a match!
Christian vs AJ vs RVD - it's stuff that dreams are made of.
I like the little faction of Sheamus, McIntyre and Ziggler.
I think that if booked right, TIW potentially has the strongest main event scene!

Lethal Action Wrestling

I don't want to be too critical, but after reading other's before this, the actual writing and booking is lacking. It feels like a half arsed attempt (sorry).
It's made worse by the fact that it is a really, really strong roster.
Morgan going over is good.
Tarver taking out Big Show was probably the highlight for me.
Anytime Jericho wins is good with me. Probably good for him to beat someone like The Big Show...gives him HUGE bragging rights
Wade Barrett push on the cards - I like this.
Best storyline going for this is who is the Boss?
Feel bad the Desmond Wolfe hasn't advanced, however based on Cena's storyline, it made sense for him to go on to the tournament.
I think ideas need to be bucked up...by far the weakest (sorry). There seems to be less talking points than any of the others.

**Loose Cannon** · 08-01-2010, 01:59 PM

alright,let's go

VCW

Much better then week 1. The promo by the USO's actually gives them a personality and characters now. Good job there. I still don't like your tag division. The Dudley Boys are the same Dudleys we've seen for the past 10 years. I don't really want to see them carry the belts. It just feels way to easy to book the same Dudley Boys. Give them another gimmick other then being "Deadly." Or Can't you bring in two other guys to kill them off?

Same thing with Kennedy. Really? Misterrrrrrrrr Keneddy? Same old shit.

Again, loved the Joe Perfect segment. I kind of wish you booked double DQ instead of having Perfect take the loss, but ok. You kind of gayed up Hulk though after he was slapped. "It's ok, it's not your fault" Are Hulk and Cole gay lovers now? This is fucking Hulk Hogan. A guy named Hulk stands up and stairs down Perfect. He doesn't get apoligetic (sp) But Joe is awesome and can't wait to see him and Hulk one on one.

Cody/Harris: Loved how you had Cody paint his face Gold. That shit has Borne Again (I don't even know if you'll get the referance) written all over it. Great angle with him

The Fiveway Match: Great stuff. Love the concept. You're midcard is very strong

HHH/Lethal: ok, I have to apoligize here. No wonder XL said what he said. I never read the part last week about HHH turning on Lethal. I must of glanced right over it. So now I see what you did. I would of killed you last week though by turning HHH heel like that. ugh, that's such an easy route with him. Anyone of these other bookers could do that. So I would not of been a fan of that anyway

But you have the mystery angle going, so we'll see what you do. Those are always fun Overall, great show. Liked it 10x better then last week. You have a great mix all over the place. I hope you pull a fast one with HHH and don't book like the WWE would though.

SCW

It was ok. not a lot going on though. so there's not much to review. Love your tag division and your Matt Hardy angle. But I'm not really interested that much. If you like good old pure wreslting, this is the show for you.

DWW

I don't know what to say. It's just not my kind of show. It's like ROH to me. Lots of wrestling and ROH type promos.

TIW

Last week was a great show. This week didn't have the same feel. Not a lot going on. Ted Dibiase has the same exact gimmick as he has on Raw right now. You even gave him the pretty blond.

The Foley/Taker thing made no sense. Foley's main event career was jump started by that fall. It didn't end his career. And there's plenty of other things people talk about with Taker other then KOTR 98. I didn't like this at all.

I did like Joe choking Taker though. Good job there.

The last match was good. I don't like what you're doing with Sheamus/Ziggler and McIntrye. I'd rather see them as a team, then as just associates. I'd rather Zig and Mac help Sheamus to capture the belt and then you do the MacIntrye gets jelous angle. Turn Mac babyface and off you go. The way you're booking is something WWE 2010 would do. I'm big on stong heel stables running a show and you have one here.

LAW

My fav last week. Let's see what you do this week

Fucking love Assasin Michael Tarver. He's prob my fav character followed by Joe Perfect. Love how you had Tarver attack with a lead pipe, my fav wreslting weapon ever. How did you know this? I absolutely hate Big Show, so I am glad you had Tarver attack him. But I also applaud this because you had Tarver attack a high profile main eventer. That's how you create stars. I hope you book Tarver into a Title match down the line.

The rest of the show was decent. You did a lot last week, so you couldn't do too may surpries this week. I like what you did with Jericho coming out of the limo. I am intrigued about this.

The Cottonwood stuff was also good.

The Boss and the Incident stuff still Intrigues me. Can't wait to see what you do

Nothing really going on in your ending, which you had a stong one last week. This week was plain. No real cliff hanger to next week.

But overall it was another solid show.

Final Comments

well, fuck me, after reading them all, VCW takes it this week. There's still some stuff I don't like, but I felt this show was the strongest overall. From top to bottom, it was a great show.

LAW gets 2nd place followed by TIW.

XL · 08-01-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LC

I don't like what you're doing with Sheamus/Ziggler and McIntrye. I'd rather see them as a team, then as just associates. I'd rather Zig and Mac help Sheamus to capture the belt and then you do the MacIntrye gets jelous angle. Turn Mac babyface and off you go. The way you're booking is something WWE 2010 would do. I'm big on stong heel stables running a show and you have one here.

Dude, that's a lot to fit in 5 shows, lol.

**VSG** · 08-01-2010, 03:18 PM

Atleast he didn't go the Billybonez way and suggest they be gay lovers.

**jerichoholicninja** · 08-01-2010, 03:57 PM

VCW

I like where Joe Perfect is going. Hogan is coming off like a little bitch. That is very hard to believe.

Decent promo by the Usos but for a hyped match it was pretty much a squash. Doesn't really give much credibility to the Dudleys or the tag belts.

I'm interested in what Cody Rhodes is up to.

I assumed that the Undertaker was behind the HHH attacks but I see he is on another roster so it's not him so this peaks my interest more.

Stars: Joe Perfect, Mystery Man

SCW

Like the Williams/Regal team.

I'm not really buying Hawkins being any threat to Edge, even with the help of Archer.

Battle Royal looked good. Good ending leading to what should be a great PPV match up.

Stars: Swagger, Angle

DWW

Really like Gertner and Raven on commentary.

Nice interview with The Miz. I couldn't help but think of Raven and Kanyon at Raven's mom's house from WCW, but it really put Miz over.

Nice segment to put Rhino over.

A tag match for the Main Event doesn't seem like a Main Event to me. I think it was so that you could end with the Bourne interview but tag title don't have a main event feel to them.

Stars: The Miz, Rhino

TIW

Nothing noteworthy until the Taker/Foley/Joe segment. Really liked Taker's reasoning for attacking Mic, but don't really like Joe being the guy Mic chooses.

Don't like all the sportsmanship in the main event.

Stars: Samoa Joe

LAW

Liking the different version of Cena.

I like having Tarver attack Big Show and then Show losing. It puts over Tarver, Show and really establishes Jericho as a heel.

The Cena/Wolfe match was weird. Why wasn't Wolfe disqualified for using the chair?

Stars: Jericho, Cena, Tarver

XL · 08-02-2010, 12:58 PM

Any luck with those Star Power Rankings AbT?

**Anybody Thrilla** · 08-02-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by XL

Any luck with those Star Power Rankings AbT?

I said I'd do them with the results for this week since not all of the judges did it last week. This week they're all voting star power with their regular rankings.

**Loose Cannon** · 08-02-2010, 04:58 PM

The voter turnout is kind of weak, especially since it's not even a public poll. I thought this would garner more attraction

**Anybody Thrilla** · 08-03-2010, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

The voter turnout is kind of weak, especially since it's not even a public poll. I thought this would garner more attraction

Honestly, I think the turnout may be kind of a good thing. There's a better chance that the people who voted actually read all of the shows. I think we all know that the average attention span of a TPWW poster isn't very long.

XL · 08-03-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

The voter turnout is kind of weak, especially since it's not even a public poll. I thought this would garner more attraction

I guess it depends how many of the bookers/judges voted in Week 1's poll. That could account for the drop in numbers.

**VSG** · 08-02-2010, 07:49 PM

Ok DWW, here we go:

Good show. I was not the biggest fan from last week, but this week you made me interested in everything, including the commentary. I loved the promos, I think that is your major selling point. Good matches, and I totally buy the >15 min of ring action in the triple threat.

The main event was near perfection. Good action, and drama with the Rey mysterio spot followed by establishment of Evan Bourne's character even more. I really got nothing against this show this week.

**VSG** · 08-02-2010, 07:59 PM

TIW, where is your logo anyway?

Ok pet peeves first since they are far lesser in magnitude than the positives: Since you dedicate your show to in ring action, can we get an estimate on the individual match times? From your description of the action, I am not sure you got a 2 hour show and I just want to confirm what you think. Correct me if wrong though, I remember reading somewhere that the shows are of 2 hours duration each. If not, my bad.

Does the announce team have any role in this apart from their intro in the beginning?

Good choice for match-ups, especially Natty-McCool. I like that you chose to stick with Ted DiBiase's million dollar gimmick. I would have rather this came on before McCool's match but its just me. It was worth building up Joe last week for the PPV match announcement. I definitely want to see that.

I am a bit confused about your title scenario, but that's a good thing as I want to know more about it and will have to tune in next week.

Good job, but not yet in my top 2. Getting there though.

**Swiss Ultimate** · 08-03-2010, 11:19 AM

So, is the show due tonight or tomorrow night?

**Evil Vito** · 08-03-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss

So, is the show due tonight or tomorrow night?

It was extended to Sunday night since a new booker has taken over TIW

**Anybody Thrilla** · 08-03-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss

So, is the show due tonight or tomorrow night?

Yeah, I pushed it to Sunday since a new booker just took over yesterday for TIW.

**BizarroKing** · 08-03-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla

Yeah, I pushed it to Sunday since a new booker just took over yesterday for TIW.

How did that happen?

**VSG** · 08-03-2010, 12:57 PM

What? Why weren't the judges informed of this?

XL · 08-03-2010, 02:04 PM

Becasue it doesn't matter (in theory).

**Swiss Ultimate** · 08-03-2010, 04:55 PM

Cool. My main-event will be epic.

**Loose Cannon** · 08-03-2010, 06:17 PM

Assassian Michael Tarver baby.

I couldn't help but think of that when watching Raw this week. Remember when Edge ran up the stairs and staired at NXT from above? I pictured Assassian Michael Tarver coming from behind with a lead pipe on Edge

**Anybody Thrilla** · 08-03-2010, 07:38 PM

One of the bookers is having family issues and won't be able to continue.

**thedamndest** · 08-04-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla

One of the bookers is having family issues and won't be able to continue.

You should randomly select one of the other applicants to take over his booking.

**CSL** · 08-04-2010, 03:52 PM

Went through and wrote this stuff down quite quickly so if there's any spelling mistakes etc, blow me

Gotta pop out rn but my votes etc in the group will be there in the next hour or so.

VCW

Never liked in-ring promos right before a match, they usually come across as pretty generic unless and more as filler than anything unless being done with some legit mic talent (see Rock, E&C etc) so to see them before the first 4 matches wasn't very inspiring. Also, the only one I'd like to have seen happen (Joe Perfect fresh off his repackaging) was cut short. Not a fan of the cartoony stuff with the lights either. Having them go out is fine but the broken sledgehammer is a bit daft. Not buying The Uso's for a second as UCLA/Harvard grads either. Also, if you're trying to build them, probably not a good idea to job them out to the Dudleys 2 weeks in a row. Why would anybody care about them or what they've done after that? That said, stronger show than previously.

SCW

Not sure about the Young Bucks going over the Hardys before but laying down for Regal and Williams. They're young end exciting enough to have 'gotten them over' by showing off some of their tag wrestling and aerial stuff and losing close matches to the more established guys like Hardys, Regal/Williams etc. Love Slater getting shit on. Unlike VSG, I think that spot is perfect for him, the gimmick only adds to it. More in-ring promos followed by matches = meh. Probably would believe Archer more as a viable threat, despite his in-ring 'ability' instead of Curt Hawkins. Love all the Matt Hardy stuff. A dodgy Matt Hardy with this gimmick could be fantastic with the right balance of humour and creepiness, like a cross between V1 Hardy and Super Serial Hardy. Nice finish too. The lack of roster depth is pretty evident with Jack Swagger being the guy to wrestle Angle. I think Punk/Angle was really the only choice for the PPV but that load was blown. Like the first show, stronger than last week. Would probably watch 'irl' just for the Hardy stuff because I think it could be that good. This would have been my #1 had Punk/Angle been the long term plan/Punk didn't do the big fat J.O.B in Week 1.

DWW

Trying far too hard again to be controversial or funny (went down in flames on both counts), which brings me back to the teenage Russo with his figures comment. I stopped reading after 'everybodies favourite semen stain', which I guess is the equivalent of 'turning off the TV' in this game. Just really bad.

TIW

Still really like the simple, non complicated layout. Like the DiBiase build too although I think you could have done better than 'foot massages'. And having Skip actually start doing it makes him look like a bitch. But at least you're maybe building towards something. Still don't like Joe going over 2 big guys with the big guys getting so little in. Joe can be built as a threat without having to do it. Also not getting if Taker is supposed to be face or heel (I'm assuming heel) If so, I don't buy it. Nobody wants to boo Taker at this point in his career. Probably could have done with more Sheamus if he's gonna be one of/the top heel as well. I liked the ending, I just don't know how much an audience would respond/care about it as a way to close a show. It's hints at some disarray between the heels and people aren't supposed to want them to do well so why would they care? (they aren't established enough to get by on name value) I like that it wasn't AJ that won the match. Christian and RVD are capable of looking after themselves when it comes to singles. I've never bought into AJ except for when he (excellently) plays dorky heel so having RVD and Christian to help hide his flaws would probably be a smart move. Like I've said, simple and effective for the most part.

LAW

Very nice opening line with the Cena/cab mention. Builds towards something (namely, Cena showing up) Which turns out to be pretty much straight away. If you were gonna bring him out, you probably should have just opened the show with Cena to maximize the pop and the interest, then bring out the others then the authority figure to make the matches. I love the references to 'The Boss' but not so much 'The Incident'. If you're building towards some kind of reveal as to what the incident was, it wouldn't work because this is the age of the internet and obviously 'The Incident' never happened. If you're saying 'The Incident' as a reference to something your fans presumably already know about (I assume something that lead to the end of WWE/TNA), fair enough that's fine. Nice continued build for the Cottonwood character. Never paid any attention to him 'irl' so I wouldn't know what he looks like etc but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I assume you didn't just randomly give him that gimmick. I think you should concentrate on establishing Kidd and DH Smith before teasing any kind of problems (as I've said, why would anyone care if they fell out) but if it's just a way to have Smith lose not exactly clean, that's fine. I'd watch Tatsu/Gabriel happily, perfect type of match for TV. Like Tarver taking out Show too to build his character. Wouldn't have him say a whole lot. Good stuff for Jericho. I assume the main was No DQ? Would be a bit confusing having a random chair shot busted out.

**Armchair Booker** · 08-04-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CSL

DWW

Trying far too hard again to be controversial or funny (went down in flames on both counts), which brings me back to the teenage Russo with his figures comment. I stopped reading after 'everybodies favourite semen stain', which I guess is the equivalent of 'turning off the TV' in this game. Just really bad.

DWW Booker here. First off, not very constructive. Oh well.

"semen stain" was a reference to Jesse Neal's past as a United States Sailor, also it came out of the mouth of Joel Gertner. I have the feeling you don't have any knowledge of either character so, I guess that makes sense. Still don't get the Russo comment but, to each his own.

Since you didn't critique anything else about the show I have to assume you loved the Miz's interview, Rhino's promo/match and the MCMG Main-Event.

**thedamndest** · 08-04-2010, 07:07 PM

Highly unorthodox.

**CSL** · 08-04-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Armchair Booker

DWW Booker here. First off, not very constructive. Oh well.

"semen stain" was a reference to Jesse Neal's past as a United States Sailor, also it came out of the mouth of Joel Gertner. I have the feeling you don't have any knowledge of either character so, I guess that makes sense. Still don't get the Russo comment but, to each his own.

Since you didn't critique anything else about the show I have to assume you loved the Miz's interview, Rhino's promo/match and the MCMG Main-Event.

I don't recall attempting to be very constructive for the most part (although I'm pretty sure yours is the only one I actually slated) Also there are plenty of other posters doing that.

I have enough knowledge of Joel Gertner to know that's pretty bad and unimaginative, even for him (ditto the Titanic line, very nice premise, shitty punchline). And you're expecting 'your fans' to automatically know about Jesse Neal's past with a vague and poorly executed reference no mention of said past?

If you don't get the Russo comment, I'm guessing you don't have any knowledge of that character.

And like I said, I didn't continue reading it after the semen stain comment. What I read up to that was enough to know where the show was gonna be in my rankings.

XL · 08-04-2010, 07:22 PM

TBF, I didn't get the "Semen stain" line and I do know Jese Neal's character.

**CSL** · 08-04-2010, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL

TBF, I didn't get the "Semen stain" line and I do know Jese Neal's character.

The line was just really shit. If I'd have 'got it' in the context he apparently meant it, I'd have thought it was even worse.

XL · 08-04-2010, 07:23 PM

Also, the poll has closed. Is that cool AbT?

XL · 08-04-2010, 07:46 PM

I guess it's a shame you stopped reading after that line though. Pretty much all of the shows have lulls that might make people turn over/off.

**Armchair Booker** · 08-04-2010, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL

I guess it's a shame you stopped reading after that line though. Pretty much all of the shows have lulls that might make people turn over/off.

You mean like TNA and WWE?

**CSL** · 08-04-2010, 07:56 PM

Oh definitely. But it wasn't just that line, there were a bunch of different things I thought were consistently awful before then that showed no signs of stopping. The stain line was just the 'lol, fuck this' moment.

View Poll Results: What was your favorite show this week?
Vintage Championship Wrestling	6	60.00%
Superb Championship Wrestling	1	10.00%
Dead Wrong Wrestling	1	10.00%
This Is Wrestling	1	10.00%
Lethal Action Wrestling	1	10.00%
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08-01-2010, 11:44 AM	#9
Impeccable Tag Team Wrestling Mark! Posts: 2,340	I've been looking forward to this since the first week. Only just got round to reading it all. Have been on holiday this week, and trying to get through chunks of it on my mobile phone while I was away from home. I love all the shows. Some are admittedly stronger than others. My thoughts on each; Vintage Championship Wrestling This is so well written, and I love Hogan and Cole on commentary. It probably shouldn't work, but it does. I think I'm a mark for Joe Perfect - Orton vs Joe Perfect was a great idea, but I wondered how you would keep Joe strong when up against Orton, who let's be fair to say should be going over Joe perfect every day of the week..excellent booking! Mr. Anderson going over Khali was a given, but keeps Anderson's momentum up. Looking forward to seeing how the Anderson/Orton feud simmers and then spills over. Not a fan of the Uso's or the Dudleys in real life, so maybe I'm biased, but I feel the tag division of VCW is probably the weak link. Not sure how you can build the tag divison based on these two teams. Cody Rhodes with a mean streak - that shit is OVER In the International championship scene, I feel that everyone who has gone through is of the right caliber/overness for the belt. There is no real need to build characters yet, as they all have a purpose in chasing the title. I've got my fingers crossed for Henry. "The Real" Jay Lethal = Heel Triple H = Jay Lethal over heel Triple H = Interested to see where the "greed" signs go. It's very interesting. While VCW is a clear leader already, I think it possibly benefits from it's position as first at the moment. After reading it, I tried to read SCW, but had to stop and leave it for a bit. How do you follow something written and booked that well? VCW sets the bar so high. Superb Championship Wrestling I love tag team wrestling. SCW has tag team wrestling! Some brilliant teams and combinations, and I probably already mark out for Regal and Williams as a team! I love the idea of a round robin for the tag team division. Not sure if I'm supposed to find Heath Slater as comical as I do, but if I am supposed to, it's working. Genius booking. Like Archer and Hawkins, and could see them a a good addition to the tag team division. Hawkins mic work was well written, and the match between Archer and Edge made sense and had a back story. Having said that, not sure Hawkins vs Edge as a feud would sustain my interest. There's not enough in it at the moment. It will be interesting to see how this is booked to make Hawkins look like a real threat (and that is the aim of armchair warfare). I hope to be proved wrong. Love the chemistry between the Hardy's, and want to see a feud between them. Well booked tag match to advance this storyline. The show possibly needed more Flair. 20 man battle royal, well booked, and advanced more stories than you'd think it was possible to. Angle vs Swagger...excellent combination for the main event of the first PPV. Overall, good show and well booked, planting the seeds (or in some cases growing the seeds) for further feuds and matches. Dead Wrong Wrestling Loved the opening and Gertner and Raven interaction. Doesn't feel forced. Opening match would have had me switching over (sorry). JTG vs Jesse Neal...ugh. Raven/Miz interview - segment of the week for me (across all shows). How awesome and evil is the Miz coming across? Homicide vs Amazing Red vs Primo would have probably been a better opening match. It's a good combination of styles, and glad to see Red pick up the win. Will be interesting to see how Homicide reacts to losses. MVP and Sharkboy? Wassupwidat team? Wierd, but probably quite comical. Felt that Kofi and Morrison are wasted teaming. Could add much more to singles division. Love the fact that Rhino is getting a push. Of all the guys across all the brands, I am most happy that he is getting a deserved run in the main event. Main event tag match - meh. Personally, I wouldn't have had the tag match followed by interview to end the show. Kind of feel that the organisation suffers from lack of starpower, maybe drew the short straw in the roster picks? That's why it was a great idea to have the fed already started and established and give everyone a bit of back story. This Is Wrestling Commissioner Foley makes me feel like I've travelled back to late 2000. I like it. Love how Samoa Joe is being portrayed as un unstoppable machine. Fits his character. Women's wrestling...fast forward...glad Nattie went over in the end. Beer Money vs Hernandez and Chavo get's a big thumbs up from me. Like the story behind why Hernandez feels the need to save Chavo Ted DiBiase and Michelle McCool causing money related havoc also get's a big thumbs up. However, I cannot believe that Ted AND Michelle would be run out by Nattie. Evil Taker!!! Wow. I love absolutely love the way he explained his actions. Perfect! Samoa Joe vs Undertaker! Now that's a match! Christian vs AJ vs RVD - it's stuff that dreams are made of. I like the little faction of Sheamus, McIntyre and Ziggler. I think that if booked right, TIW potentially has the strongest main event scene! Lethal Action Wrestling I don't want to be too critical, but after reading other's before this, the actual writing and booking is lacking. It feels like a half arsed attempt (sorry). It's made worse by the fact that it is a really, really strong roster. Morgan going over is good. Tarver taking out Big Show was probably the highlight for me. Anytime Jericho wins is good with me. Probably good for him to beat someone like The Big Show...gives him HUGE bragging rights Wade Barrett push on the cards - I like this. Best storyline going for this is who is the Boss? Feel bad the Desmond Wolfe hasn't advanced, however based on Cena's storyline, it made sense for him to go on to the tournament. I think ideas need to be bucked up...by far the weakest (sorry). There seems to be less talking points than any of the others.

08-01-2010, 01:59 PM	#10
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	alright,let's go VCW Much better then week 1. The promo by the USO's actually gives them a personality and characters now. Good job there. I still don't like your tag division. The Dudley Boys are the same Dudleys we've seen for the past 10 years. I don't really want to see them carry the belts. It just feels way to easy to book the same Dudley Boys. Give them another gimmick other then being "Deadly." Or Can't you bring in two other guys to kill them off? Same thing with Kennedy. Really? Misterrrrrrrrr Keneddy? Same old shit. Again, loved the Joe Perfect segment. I kind of wish you booked double DQ instead of having Perfect take the loss, but ok. You kind of gayed up Hulk though after he was slapped. "It's ok, it's not your fault" Are Hulk and Cole gay lovers now? This is fucking Hulk Hogan. A guy named Hulk stands up and stairs down Perfect. He doesn't get apoligetic (sp) But Joe is awesome and can't wait to see him and Hulk one on one. Cody/Harris: Loved how you had Cody paint his face Gold. That shit has Borne Again (I don't even know if you'll get the referance) written all over it. Great angle with him The Fiveway Match: Great stuff. Love the concept. You're midcard is very strong HHH/Lethal: ok, I have to apoligize here. No wonder XL said what he said. I never read the part last week about HHH turning on Lethal. I must of glanced right over it. So now I see what you did. I would of killed you last week though by turning HHH heel like that. ugh, that's such an easy route with him. Anyone of these other bookers could do that. So I would not of been a fan of that anyway But you have the mystery angle going, so we'll see what you do. Those are always fun Overall, great show. Liked it 10x better then last week. You have a great mix all over the place. I hope you pull a fast one with HHH and don't book like the WWE would though. SCW It was ok. not a lot going on though. so there's not much to review. Love your tag division and your Matt Hardy angle. But I'm not really interested that much. If you like good old pure wreslting, this is the show for you. DWW I don't know what to say. It's just not my kind of show. It's like ROH to me. Lots of wrestling and ROH type promos. TIW Last week was a great show. This week didn't have the same feel. Not a lot going on. Ted Dibiase has the same exact gimmick as he has on Raw right now. You even gave him the pretty blond. The Foley/Taker thing made no sense. Foley's main event career was jump started by that fall. It didn't end his career. And there's plenty of other things people talk about with Taker other then KOTR 98. I didn't like this at all. I did like Joe choking Taker though. Good job there. The last match was good. I don't like what you're doing with Sheamus/Ziggler and McIntrye. I'd rather see them as a team, then as just associates. I'd rather Zig and Mac help Sheamus to capture the belt and then you do the MacIntrye gets jelous angle. Turn Mac babyface and off you go. The way you're booking is something WWE 2010 would do. I'm big on stong heel stables running a show and you have one here. LAW My fav last week. Let's see what you do this week Fucking love Assasin Michael Tarver. He's prob my fav character followed by Joe Perfect. Love how you had Tarver attack with a lead pipe, my fav wreslting weapon ever. How did you know this? I absolutely hate Big Show, so I am glad you had Tarver attack him. But I also applaud this because you had Tarver attack a high profile main eventer. That's how you create stars. I hope you book Tarver into a Title match down the line. The rest of the show was decent. You did a lot last week, so you couldn't do too may surpries this week. I like what you did with Jericho coming out of the limo. I am intrigued about this. The Cottonwood stuff was also good. The Boss and the Incident stuff still Intrigues me. Can't wait to see what you do Nothing really going on in your ending, which you had a stong one last week. This week was plain. No real cliff hanger to next week. But overall it was another solid show. Final Comments well, fuck me, after reading them all, VCW takes it this week. There's still some stuff I don't like, but I felt this show was the strongest overall. From top to bottom, it was a great show. LAW gets 2nd place followed by TIW. Last edited by Loose Cannon; 08-01-2010 at 02:37 PM.

07-30-2010, 12:47 PM	#1
Schlomey Black Sheep Jew Posts: 8,859	I love everything about Vintage Championship Wrestling. I love the storylines. The Greed video makes me want to find out what happens Now. The International Title chase is a great idea too. Yea i voted for it again.

07-30-2010, 04:53 PM	#2
Flash Funk Noid approved Posts: 508	Where are all the critiques? Don't tell me people have lost interest after only one week...

07-30-2010, 05:17 PM	#3
Lock Jaw Skibbidy Lock Jaw Posts: 88,714	Lock Jaw's Fantastic Reviews, Week Two! Greetings to you, the bookers! Welcome to this week's review from Judge Lock Jaw! Five shows, each with their own merits! But how do they stack against each other when going head to head? Find out using Judge Lock Jaw's unique judging system! For the purposes of judging, I will be placing each show side by side, as if they were on at the same time. I will be giving out points. 3 for what the causal fan would watch (assuming they have no brand loyalty and are just switching between all shows like me), 2 for what I would watch, and 1 for what I would first watch on youtube the next day. I'll also give a bonus .5 points for one of the other feds, just because I can. So, without further ado... (under spoilers just to keep it more concise) Opening Segments SPOILER: show VCW starts off its show with Joe Perfect. A great way to kick things off, as many fans have been talking about this personality change and will no doubt want to see what it is all about. Unfortunately, things go downhill from there as Joe Perfect loses via intentional count-out to Randy Orton. He does slap Hulk Hogan, but he winds up looking somewhat of a coward. Mr. Anderson then comes out and Randy Orton runs away, making Orton look like a coward as well. SCW opens with more tag team round-robin action as we see The British Guys defeat the Young Bucks. British Guys also get some promo time pre-match to establish their characters and legitimacy. DWW inexplicably opens up with JTG defeating Jesse Neal, which is a pretty horrible way to open a show. Thankfully, it is a quick match, and we move into an interview with The Miz. Miz bashes the other companies, which is a nice touch. He vows to retire champion. Miz is again presented as an unstoppable force, and it seems that in the history of this company, Rey Mysterio has been the only one to beat him, and since then Miz has beaten him thoroughly multiple times and sent him home injured. So that further closes that angle. Not sure I buy Miz as an unstoppable force, either. TIW opens with Foley setting up the main events and set up for the PPV. He says that Christian/RVD/Styles proved themselves and will face each other for a shot to be in the title match. Then despite not proving themselves and being the losers, it is announced that the same deal will happen between Sheamus/McIntyre/Ziggler next week, which seems like a flimsy setup to keep things face vs heel. Samoa Joe then squashes Otunga and Kozlov, further solidifying him as a monster at the expense of others. LAW sees an awkward segment where Jericho/Big Show/Wolfe all interrupt each other before talking. Then Wolfe and Jericho both make statements (while Big Show forgets about saying anything). Cena then comes out and says he wants the title. Main events are set. Verdict: VCW is definitely the strongest, building off of a point of interest from last week. Casual Fan Watches: VCW (+3 Points) Lock Jaw Watches: VCW (+2 Points) First to get Youtube'd: DWW (+1 Point) I probably would have watched this one first if I didn't see JTG and Jesse Neal right off the bat. Bonus: LAW for giving Wolfe some mic time, and more references to *The Incident* (+0.5 Points) Section #1 SPOILER: show VCW sees Mr. Anderson beat Great Khali fairly quickly. Orton then is backstage, talks about fighting Anderson "on his terms". I must admit I am a bit confused over who is supposed to be the heel and who is supposed to be the face in this feud. I thought Orton was the face, but then he ran away and is now talking about all this "on his terms" stuff. Dudleys then beat the Usos for the tag titles in another short match. Usos are given some personality before the match, but the Dudleys winning in even less time than last week seems to effectively shut down this angle. SCW: Heath Slater is booted by Abyss backstage. Ok. Curt Hawkins then cuts a promo, and Edge defeats Vance Archer. He is then beat down by Hawkins/Archer post-match. A good continuation of the angle, but again, Edge beats one of his enemies cleanly on the very first go around. DWW sees Amazing Red defeat Homicide and Primo. Yeah. TIW sees Natalya beat Michelle McCool. Yeah. LAW has Zach Ryder beat Eli Cottonwood, who isn't too happy. Matt Morgan then beats DH Smith after botched interference by Tyson Kidd, this could perhaps be leading somewhere. THE BOSS is revealed to be in the limo... but who is he? Verdict: Casual Fan Watches: SCW (+3 Points) Lock Jaw Watches: SCW (+2 Points) First to get Youtube'd: DWW (+1 Point) Bonus: I considered giving it to VCW for trying to give the Usos characters, but with them decisively losing, I say meh and give the bonus to LAW (+0.5 Points) Section #2 SPOILER: show VCW sees Cody Rhodes send a message to Goldust by beating down Husky Harris. A good little angle that builds up for Goldust's eventual return. SCW sees The HardyZ beat the South-Beach Boys with more weirdness/dissension from Matt Hardy. Could we be building to yet another Matt Hardy heel turn followed by yet another Matt/Jeff feud?! DWW has Kofi/Morrison (AKA "The MidCarders") defeat MVP and Shark Boy. Pre-match there is some weird Japanese symbols and music. Interesting. TIW has Hernandez beat James Storm after Chavo chases Roode away. LAW has Yoshi Tatsu beat Justin Gabriel, and then Michael Tarver beatdown Big Show. Huge boost for Tarver. Verdict: A lot of good/interesting stuff going on here. Casual Fan Watches: SCW (+3 Points) Lock Jaw Watches: TIW (+2 Points). I am a fan of this angle. First to get Youtube'd: VCW (+1 Point) Bonus: LAW for Tarver (+0.5 Points) Section #3 SPOILER: show VCW continues to "TNA it up" with a Frenzied Five-Way that sees Suicide eliminated and Eric Young come out to try to take Suicide's mask. DWW has Rhino beat Rob Terry and run through Brutus Magnus and Daffney as well. He then picks up a mic and says "I want the gold, sucka! Miz, I comin' for you, nigga!" TIW has a bunch of small little segments here. DiBiase buys Skip Sheffield and then beats him down until... Natalya? comes to make the save. Beer Money then talks about the Guerrero legacy and paying tribute next week. Like I said, I am a fan of that angle, so good. We then have a weird angle between Taker/Foley. The end result was Samoa Joe vs Taker being set up for the PPV, which is a good thing but... the way it is booked and written, it seems as if the writer is throwing away they "aura" around Taker's character that has made him such a success, tries to turn him heel (which I'm not buying), has a flimsy excuse for his hatred for Foley, and then Foley further takes away from Taker by breaking kayfabe. Very poorly done all around. LAW has Jericho easily beat Big Show after Tarver's beatdown. Barrett then squashes Santino, says he wants the title. Jericho seen leaving the boss' limo. MYSTERY! Verdict: Casual Fan Watches: TIW (+3 Points), despite being terrible. Lock Jaw Watches: TIW (+2 Points), again despite it being bad, I would tune in. After seeing it, I may choose not to tune in to the angle next week, though. First to get Youtube'd: LAW (+1 Point) Bonus: DWW (+0.5 Points) for trying its best to establish Rhyno as a legit contender again. Main Events: SPOILER: show VCW has Jay Lethal promise to introduce the "real" Jay Lethal. He then defeats Triple H via roll-up when Haitch is distracted by mysterious messages. Lethal is then saved again by the lights going out. Still a big boost to Lethal no doubt, but I fear he is going to get lost and overshadowed by the mysterious savior. Also, not buying Triple H as a heel just yet, without a monster heel promo or anything from him. He beat up Jay Lethal last week, fine. Being as over a face as he is, that wouldn't necessarily turn him heel. Really needed the heel promo to solidify things. SCW has a massive over-the-top battle royale. Which I am a sucker for. A few good spots in the match. Hawkins/Archer continue to work together and eliminate Edge right off the bat. Kane/Abyss showdown. Jeff eliminates Matt. In the end Swagger and Angle win. Punk is eliminated last, but it seems as if Punk as a threat is over, which is a shame since he is more over as a heel than Swagger is at the moment. DWW has the MCMG successfully defend their titles against Rey Bourne and Londrick. Also, for some reason, Jeff Jarrett is the referee. Rey leaves halfway on a stretcher, Bourne goes with. Catch up with Bourne after the match who gives an update on Rey and says that The Miz is EEEEEVIL. Left with the general feeling of "The Miz is an unstoppable monster, who can stop him?". TIW has Christian beat RVD and Styles. Beatdown by SheamIntiggler after the match. LAW has Cena beat Wolfe in a surprisingly competitive match. Verdict: Casual Fan Watches: VCW (+3 Points) Lock Jaw Watches: SCW (+3 Point). Like I said, I'm a sucker for a battle royale. First to get Youtube'd: VCW (+1 Point) Bonus: LAW (+0.5 Points) for Cena not squashing Wolfe. Final Tally SPOILER: show 1) VCW: 1.0 + 0.3 Week 1 "Buzz" Bonus = 1.3 (Up 0.8) 2) SCW: 1.1 (Down 0.3) 3) TIW: 0.7 (Up 0.55) 4) LAW: 0.3 (Up 0.1) 5) DWW: 0.25 (Down 0.55) The Buzz SPOILER: show DWW took the biggest dive in ratings this week, and was hurt by a weak opening, and strong main events by the other companies. Nevertheless, despite being new to the market, word is getting out about it. Fans in the area are beginning to clue in to The Miz being a total unstoppable heel. Some are doubtful about an average sized individual with no or little allies being unstoppable, but their curiosity is piqued. Can anybody stop The Miz? With Miz returning to TV next week, the fans may just tune in to find out. DWW will receive an automatic +3 Points for next week's show!

07-30-2010, 05:26 PM	#4
XL Feeling Oof-y Posts: 17,151	I love Lock Jaw's reviews. Disagree with a few points but meh, that's to be expected. Good work

07-30-2010, 07:44 PM	#5
Swiss Ultimate Amazon Affiliate Posts: 42,694	We're not going to agree with everything but, I do enjoy all the reviews so far.

07-30-2010, 08:05 PM	#6
Swiss Ultimate Amazon Affiliate Posts: 42,694	I'm just wondering after all the shows are out if the series will be graded as a whole? I'd like to know who developed the most balanced and well-paced angles in the opinions of TPPW.

07-31-2010, 12:50 PM	#7
Armchair Booker Posts: 42	DWW Booker here to explain a few things: British Tigers are made up of former Global Elite stable mates Rob Terry and Brutus Magnus. Both are from TNA. I didn't stick them together just because they're both British. MVP and JTG were put together because of their common race, and criminal pasts. Also both from the same company. Rey Mysterio is not my #1 baby-face, he's top 5 though. I also don't consider his defeat and injury at the hands of Miz a "clean" win. The Burning Hammer is a move that has legitimately broken many necks throughout the sport. Kayfabe-wise it's extremely dangerous. Rey Mysterio was down and instead of going for the win, The Miz attempted to end his career. The Miz is not unstoppable like Brock Lesnar, he's just very motivated and extremely tricky. He has managed to hold onto the title for the majority of the life of DWW and doesn't have plans on losing it to some goody-goody like Evan Bourne, a psychopathic garbage wrestler like Rhino or that douche he used to tag with John Morrison. The World and World Tag Team titles are considered to be "equal" in the eyes of DWW and Terry Funk. Those people in contention for the titles are considered to be Main Event to Upper-Midcard status. I've enjoyed all the comments. I hope you guys like what I'm going for. Something of a mixture of WCW and ECW (that's what I'm trying for.)

07-31-2010, 11:57 PM	#8
James Steele TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04 Posts: 29,886	I'll be very brief: VCW Once again, VCW was leaps and bounds ahead of the competition. I think it has a little bit of everything and I am loving the cliffhanger with Triple H. Orton/Anderson was an awesome way to open the show. I loved the Joe Perfect/Hogan incident and to see the explanation next week. Top to bottom just a great show! DWW DWW skyrocketed this week in my rankings. I don't know if I just got a better grasp on the show or if it was just "cleaner" this week but I loved it. The Miz is a shining star in DWW and I look forward to see where his character progresses. The opening tag match was good. . SCW Similar to LAW and TIW, but a bit more detailed which helps bring out the imagination and visualization of the content. I like the tag team focus, and it has that young vibe to it that has some energy to it. Keep it up. LAW LAW and TIW are very similar in their "compact" style, so there isn't a whole lot to bring out the imagination when visualizing the storylines and matches presented. Good show, and keep it up. I feel that all the feds are pretty even, except for VCW who has gotten a hotter start and DWW who stepped it up this week. TIW While compact, there was some good stuff in the show. Undertaker/Foley was nice. I like the direction you are going with Ted DiBiase. I personally would like to see more storylines but I get a RoH vibe from TIW. (Probably why its called THIS IS WRESTLING eh?)

08-01-2010, 03:18 PM	#12
VSG Hazardous to Your Health Posts: 21,730	Atleast he didn't go the Billybonez way and suggest they be gay lovers.

08-01-2010, 03:57 PM	#13
jerichoholicninja Bringing Intact Back Posts: 1,370	VCW I like where Joe Perfect is going. Hogan is coming off like a little bitch. That is very hard to believe. Decent promo by the Usos but for a hyped match it was pretty much a squash. Doesn't really give much credibility to the Dudleys or the tag belts. I'm interested in what Cody Rhodes is up to. I assumed that the Undertaker was behind the HHH attacks but I see he is on another roster so it's not him so this peaks my interest more. Stars: Joe Perfect, Mystery Man SCW Like the Williams/Regal team. I'm not really buying Hawkins being any threat to Edge, even with the help of Archer. Battle Royal looked good. Good ending leading to what should be a great PPV match up. Stars: Swagger, Angle DWW Really like Gertner and Raven on commentary. Nice interview with The Miz. I couldn't help but think of Raven and Kanyon at Raven's mom's house from WCW, but it really put Miz over. Nice segment to put Rhino over. A tag match for the Main Event doesn't seem like a Main Event to me. I think it was so that you could end with the Bourne interview but tag title don't have a main event feel to them. Stars: The Miz, Rhino TIW Nothing noteworthy until the Taker/Foley/Joe segment. Really liked Taker's reasoning for attacking Mic, but don't really like Joe being the guy Mic chooses. Don't like all the sportsmanship in the main event. Stars: Samoa Joe LAW Liking the different version of Cena. I like having Tarver attack Big Show and then Show losing. It puts over Tarver, Show and really establishes Jericho as a heel. The Cena/Wolfe match was weird. Why wasn't Wolfe disqualified for using the chair? Stars: Jericho, Cena, Tarver

08-02-2010, 12:58 PM	#14
XL Feeling Oof-y Posts: 17,151	Any luck with those Star Power Rankings AbT?

08-02-2010, 04:58 PM	#16
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	The voter turnout is kind of weak, especially since it's not even a public poll. I thought this would garner more attraction

08-02-2010, 07:49 PM	#19
VSG Hazardous to Your Health Posts: 21,730	Ok DWW, here we go: Good show. I was not the biggest fan from last week, but this week you made me interested in everything, including the commentary. I loved the promos, I think that is your major selling point. Good matches, and I totally buy the >15 min of ring action in the triple threat. The main event was near perfection. Good action, and drama with the Rey mysterio spot followed by establishment of Evan Bourne's character even more. I really got nothing against this show this week.

08-02-2010, 07:59 PM	#20
VSG Hazardous to Your Health Posts: 21,730	TIW, where is your logo anyway? Ok pet peeves first since they are far lesser in magnitude than the positives: Since you dedicate your show to in ring action, can we get an estimate on the individual match times? From your description of the action, I am not sure you got a 2 hour show and I just want to confirm what you think. Correct me if wrong though, I remember reading somewhere that the shows are of 2 hours duration each. If not, my bad. Does the announce team have any role in this apart from their intro in the beginning? Good choice for match-ups, especially Natty-McCool. I like that you chose to stick with Ted DiBiase's million dollar gimmick. I would have rather this came on before McCool's match but its just me. It was worth building up Joe last week for the PPV match announcement. I definitely want to see that. I am a bit confused about your title scenario, but that's a good thing as I want to know more about it and will have to tune in next week. Good job, but not yet in my top 2. Getting there though.

08-03-2010, 11:19 AM	#21
Swiss Ultimate Amazon Affiliate Posts: 42,694	So, is the show due tonight or tomorrow night?

08-03-2010, 12:57 PM	#25
VSG Hazardous to Your Health Posts: 21,730	What? Why weren't the judges informed of this?

08-03-2010, 02:04 PM	#26
XL Feeling Oof-y Posts: 17,151	Becasue it doesn't matter (in theory).

08-03-2010, 04:55 PM	#27
Swiss Ultimate Amazon Affiliate Posts: 42,694	Cool. My main-event will be epic.

08-03-2010, 06:17 PM	#28
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	Assassian Michael Tarver baby. I couldn't help but think of that when watching Raw this week. Remember when Edge ran up the stairs and staired at NXT from above? I pictured Assassian Michael Tarver coming from behind with a lead pipe on Edge

08-03-2010, 07:38 PM	#29
Anybody Thrilla Cranky Kong Posts: 78,671	One of the bookers is having family issues and won't be able to continue.

08-04-2010, 03:52 PM	#31
CSL Over Like Rover Posts: 38,444	Went through and wrote this stuff down quite quickly so if there's any spelling mistakes etc, blow me Gotta pop out rn but my votes etc in the group will be there in the next hour or so. VCW Never liked in-ring promos right before a match, they usually come across as pretty generic unless and more as filler than anything unless being done with some legit mic talent (see Rock, E&C etc) so to see them before the first 4 matches wasn't very inspiring. Also, the only one I'd like to have seen happen (Joe Perfect fresh off his repackaging) was cut short. Not a fan of the cartoony stuff with the lights either. Having them go out is fine but the broken sledgehammer is a bit daft. Not buying The Uso's for a second as UCLA/Harvard grads either. Also, if you're trying to build them, probably not a good idea to job them out to the Dudleys 2 weeks in a row. Why would anybody care about them or what they've done after that? That said, stronger show than previously. SCW Not sure about the Young Bucks going over the Hardys before but laying down for Regal and Williams. They're young end exciting enough to have 'gotten them over' by showing off some of their tag wrestling and aerial stuff and losing close matches to the more established guys like Hardys, Regal/Williams etc. Love Slater getting shit on. Unlike VSG, I think that spot is perfect for him, the gimmick only adds to it. More in-ring promos followed by matches = meh. Probably would believe Archer more as a viable threat, despite his in-ring 'ability' instead of Curt Hawkins. Love all the Matt Hardy stuff. A dodgy Matt Hardy with this gimmick could be fantastic with the right balance of humour and creepiness, like a cross between V1 Hardy and Super Serial Hardy. Nice finish too. The lack of roster depth is pretty evident with Jack Swagger being the guy to wrestle Angle. I think Punk/Angle was really the only choice for the PPV but that load was blown. Like the first show, stronger than last week. Would probably watch 'irl' just for the Hardy stuff because I think it could be that good. This would have been my #1 had Punk/Angle been the long term plan/Punk didn't do the big fat J.O.B in Week 1. DWW Trying far too hard again to be controversial or funny (went down in flames on both counts), which brings me back to the teenage Russo with his figures comment. I stopped reading after 'everybodies favourite semen stain', which I guess is the equivalent of 'turning off the TV' in this game. Just really bad. TIW Still really like the simple, non complicated layout. Like the DiBiase build too although I think you could have done better than 'foot massages'. And having Skip actually start doing it makes him look like a bitch. But at least you're maybe building towards something. Still don't like Joe going over 2 big guys with the big guys getting so little in. Joe can be built as a threat without having to do it. Also not getting if Taker is supposed to be face or heel (I'm assuming heel) If so, I don't buy it. Nobody wants to boo Taker at this point in his career. Probably could have done with more Sheamus if he's gonna be one of/the top heel as well. I liked the ending, I just don't know how much an audience would respond/care about it as a way to close a show. It's hints at some disarray between the heels and people aren't supposed to want them to do well so why would they care? (they aren't established enough to get by on name value) I like that it wasn't AJ that won the match. Christian and RVD are capable of looking after themselves when it comes to singles. I've never bought into AJ except for when he (excellently) plays dorky heel so having RVD and Christian to help hide his flaws would probably be a smart move. Like I've said, simple and effective for the most part. LAW Very nice opening line with the Cena/cab mention. Builds towards something (namely, Cena showing up) Which turns out to be pretty much straight away. If you were gonna bring him out, you probably should have just opened the show with Cena to maximize the pop and the interest, then bring out the others then the authority figure to make the matches. I love the references to 'The Boss' but not so much 'The Incident'. If you're building towards some kind of reveal as to what the incident was, it wouldn't work because this is the age of the internet and obviously 'The Incident' never happened. If you're saying 'The Incident' as a reference to something your fans presumably already know about (I assume something that lead to the end of WWE/TNA), fair enough that's fine. Nice continued build for the Cottonwood character. Never paid any attention to him 'irl' so I wouldn't know what he looks like etc but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I assume you didn't just randomly give him that gimmick. I think you should concentrate on establishing Kidd and DH Smith before teasing any kind of problems (as I've said, why would anyone care if they fell out) but if it's just a way to have Smith lose not exactly clean, that's fine. I'd watch Tatsu/Gabriel happily, perfect type of match for TV. Like Tarver taking out Show too to build his character. Wouldn't have him say a whole lot. Good stuff for Jericho. I assume the main was No DQ? Would be a bit confusing having a random chair shot busted out.

08-04-2010, 07:07 PM	#33
thedamndest A Property of Matter Posts: 25,543	Highly unorthodox.

08-04-2010, 07:22 PM	#35
XL Feeling Oof-y Posts: 17,151	TBF, I didn't get the "Semen stain" line and I do know Jese Neal's character.

08-04-2010, 07:23 PM	#37
XL Feeling Oof-y Posts: 17,151	Also, the poll has closed. Is that cool AbT?

08-04-2010, 07:46 PM	#38
XL Feeling Oof-y Posts: 17,151	I guess it's a shame you stopped reading after that line though. Pretty much all of the shows have lulls that might make people turn over/off.

08-04-2010, 07:56 PM	#40
CSL Over Like Rover Posts: 38,444	Oh definitely. But it wasn't just that line, there were a bunch of different things I thought were consistently awful before then that showed no signs of stopping. The stain line was just the 'lol, fuck this' moment.