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FIT Challenge Slag People
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You have to start with the Hogans and the Bischoffs. You spend so much money to bring in the two masterminds of the last time WWE had legitimate competition, and they don't move the needle at all. They're eating up payroll, giving TV time to their untalented offspring, and giving the company no payoff.
I'm assuming that the Bellator stuff is paid for by Spike. So, even though I don't think King Mo, Rampage, or Tito add anything to the show, it's not costing Panda any money, so I'll let them slide. Hernandez, Jay Bradley, and Rob Terry are just terrible. Let them go. Jessie Godderz is doing all right in this Bro-Mans team, but Robbie is the real star there, so Jessie can go, too. I'm okay with them cutting Taeler Hendrix and Crimson, but Joey Ryan and Madison Rayne still had gas in the tank. I'm indifferent to Christian York (liked him in ECW), so I guess I'm okay with him getting cut. I can't believe Jeff Hardy is still under contract after the Victory Road fiasco. He seems to be doing okay now, but if I was running TNA, he'd have been gone years ago. In summary: Hulk and Brooke Hogan, Eric and Garrett Bischoff, Hernandez, Jay Bradley, Rob Terry, Jessie Godderz, Taeler Hendrix, Crimson, and Jeff Hardy |
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Quark is Less Impressed.
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Inno Knows.
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Yeah I saw Spike is footing the bill for King Mo, Rampage, and Tito. King Mo, you're safe...for now.
Since they're cutting pregnant knockouts, I expect Tayrn to get cut now also. |
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FIT Challenge Slag People
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TNA sells merch?
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Grim Fandango
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Sure they do. Forget those tacky t-shirts when you can get quality stuff like this.
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I don't really see the Aces & Eights guys as being very necessary. The one I thought was pretty good was DOC, but he's already left. Knux is solid, but nothing special. I'd have sent Wes Brisco and Garett Bischoff back to OVW. Devon could go there as a trainer or get released. Ken Anderson is a maybe, since he apparently is one of TNA's best merch movers (well, he was a few years back).
Creatively, I think it would be the best thing to get rid of Hogan and Bischoff, as well. I'm sure they get paid a fair bit. Also, given that he is now unable to challenge for the World Heavyweight Title, they might as well move away from Sting and focus on younger talents. A heel ending Sting's TNA career would be a huge thing for that particular heel, and give an avenging babyface a good storyline. Truth be told, I think it's time that Abyss was respectfully released too. He's entertaining as Joseph Park and all that, but it just doesn't really feel right. I'm not sure how much he gets paid, but I imagine he gets a fair amount due to his tenure with the company. I'd induct him into the TNA Hall of Fame or something and maybe bring him back for special occasions. Maybe he could even replace Taz as the color commentator for the show, dropping the whole Abyss/Joseph Park thing and simply being a respected veteran who calls matches now. Jay Bradley does nothing for me. If he wants to take a cut and go to OVW and see if he can strike gold, go ahead, but I don't really think he fits the main roster. I feel the same about Gunner -- he's technically a solid performer, but there's nothing really magnetic or special about him. I'd have Bad Influence win the World Tag Team Titles from him and James Storm and then have Gunner turn on Storm in a rage. Storm beats Gunner and then we move on. Crimson and Rob Terry are two guys I wouldn't be too depressed to see go, either. Jessie Godderz getting released wouldn't be a shocking loss for the company. Robbie E. is far better than people give him credit for, but I don't think he's really essential to the company moving forward. If cuts had to be made, I'd go with him getting the chop. I'd have kept Christian York and Taeler Hendrix (treating Taeler better). The Knockouts and X-Division should really be strengthened with permanent characters that people can care about. TNA should invest in some good tag teams too. There are also some former WWE stars that could actually help out TNA with their charisma and presence -- guys who would actually fit the roster. |
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President of Freedonia
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I can't believe Aces & Eights has been going on for over 14 months now. The storyline has been terrible, has made no sense (a frequent requirement for TNA), and has just dragged on for way too long. These guys aren't the nWo. Hell, they haven't even been the Nexus. Just fuck off. I love Bully Ray obviously, but he doesn't need this group to be entertaining.
Brisco & Bischoff are just shit. Ortiz and the other MMA guys bring zero value to TNA and are only to promote Bellator. People who watch TNA may tune in to Bellator, but it sure as shit would never be the other way around. I used to love Mr. Anderson in WWE and before his body betrayed him I thought he was going to be huge. He's not awful by any means, but the reality is he doesn't bring anything special to the table, he's just average across the board. Perhaps I would like him more if he rolled with it and just started wrestling as "Average Goods" Ken Anderson. |
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I would like it if TNA signed Karl Anderson to be Ken Anderson's tag team partner. The K. Andersons could be a pretty hard-hitting tag team for a division that needs some help.
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Alive
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Tables, Ladders, & Podcast #15 (September 3, 2013) (Now On iTunes)
![]() Covering NXT, Impact, Smackdown, & Raw, with brief looks at Main Event & Xplosion. Starring: Jabba, Afterlife, Poit, & Heisenberg. |
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Y2KoTF
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Answer for question of the week would have to be a toss-up between Frankie, Koko B Ware's parrot, and Damien, Jake 'The Snake' Roberts snake. Damien probably has the edge, because he was a fucking big snake.
Matilda the Bulldog gets points also. |
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TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04
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Triple H's dog Lucy during the build to WrestleMania X8.
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TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04
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The whole fake snakebite angle from an episode of SmackDown during the HHH/Austin feud in 2000 was pretty great too.
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Y2KoTF
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Maybe the question was meant to be about a Road Warrior or Batista?
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The Champ is Here!
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Quality Meme Producer
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Next week we breakdown the impact and importance of a properly executed Chokeslam
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FIT Challenge Slag People
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I still think Los Matadores will bring Mantaur to the ring with them.
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Alive
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We live in hope.
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Resident drug enabler
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Resident drug enabler
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I can't think of any animals that were involved as much as Damien. Right down to Earthquake murdering him in cold blood. Awesome childhood rasslin' memories. So, him.
Honorable mention goes to The British Bulldogs' dog Matilda. Also, Pepper and all of his cousins who ran around the ring shitting and pissing during the Kennel from Hell match. |
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Former TPWW Royalty
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Jake Roberts snake pet "Damien" mainly because of how involved his pet was in regards to storylines and his character in general.
Do fake animals count since the Swagga Soaring Eagle was pretty good until becoming just a laughing stock once Hornswoggle got involved I think. |
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The Champ is Here!
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Since the Swagger Soaring Eagle came up in our discussion on the podcast, I think it's fair to count fake animals like that.
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Fuck Damien. That cobra that bit Randy Savage was the most badass animal to ever grace the WWE. All I could find was the WWE censored version.
I can only imagine what seeing that live must have felt like. |
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So fucking sexy.
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Holy shit.
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Resident drug enabler
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Oh. In that case, I nominate The Gobbeldy Gooker and Pepe.
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Quark is Less Impressed.
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Walking to work and I ran out of Steve Austin podcast episodes that interest me. Subscribed on itunes.
A: Whenever somebody wrestled a bear. If that actually happened. |
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When are you doing tonight's podcast, Afterlife won't get back to me..
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Quality Meme Producer
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They usually start round this time, did u hit them up on Skype?
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Yeah!
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Quality Meme Producer
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What?? OK!
They were all on round the time we exchanged memos. Afterlife wasn't, but the others were. I had to go chase down a kid who knocked on my door, so I wasn't on the panel. I caught that sumbitch tho |
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Soundly Defeated Wadding
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Sorry, Kyle. We already started and are almost finished. We can get you on in the future though.
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Alive
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Afterlife fell asleep a few minutes before we started the show, I guess. He talked about wanting to get you on.
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So fucking sexy.
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My bad.
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Alive
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Tables, Ladders, & Podcast #16 (September 10, 2013)
![]() Covering NXT, Impact, Smackdown, & Raw, with brief looks at Superstars, Main Event, & Xplosion. Starring: Jabba, Narcissus, Poit, & Innovator. |
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Soundly Defeated Wadding
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The next Heyman guy should be somebody that doesn't look like they ate their former WWE personality.
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Grim Fandango
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I'll really like to see Fandango as the Heyman guy, he's infinitely more interesting than McGillicutty. They could even revert back to the Johnny Curtis name and play off Heyman signing the "wrong Curtis" last time while explicitly telling us that Axel is terrible and he's really really sorry about the whole thing.
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Reigning Tipsters Champ!
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Don't think they should abandon Axel completely, think there is an opportunity here...
I would go for Matt Morgan. He has good experience under his belt now, and his size makes him an immediate threat to someone like Punk. Lots of possibilities after that. You could have Axel taking on a Mankind-esque role in Heyman's stable where he unwittingly believes he is being set up for greatness (while Morgan is now the focus of Heyman's attention), while being constantly left behind to take the beatings from Punk. You can then have Morgan/Punk, and maybe Lesnar or a further Heyman guy interefering down the line, playing the numbers game against Punk. Axel could then get the sympathetic face turn aiding Punk against the monsters after teasing tensions over a period of months. You could then do Morgan/Axel, Punk/Lesnar based off of that. You could get a lot of legs out of an angle like that, and it might help not only establish Morgan in WWE, but create more of a personality and backstory for Axel... |
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Inno Knows.
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I'm kinda horrified by my voice
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The Champ is Here!
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I think I like my mockery of Narc's voice more than my regular voice.
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FIT Challenge Slag People
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I'll second the vote for Morgan. So much untapped potential. I would love to see Morgan brought in as Heyman's full-time muscle for his feud with Punk. He could also be a good foil for small guys, too, and Heyman could use him to go after other former protégés. Morgan/Mysterio would be a lot of fun, if Rey could ever stay healthy. Imagine a fresh-from-surgery Rey Rey getting laid out by a seven-foot monster with the brain of Paul Heyman guiding it. Morgan vs. Jericho as Paul looks for revenge after Pantsgate. Morgan vs. Sheamus. I could go on and on.
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