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Old 10-27-2013, 09:13 PM   #1
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:02 AM   #5
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I've learned two things this week so far (still got a fair amount of show left):

1) TNA's heel women's champion of Asian descent with a Pacific Islander bodyguard to protect her from the rest of the division she's pissed off is utterly different from WWE's heel women's champion of Asian descent with a Pacific Islander bodyguard to protect her from the rest of the division she's pissed off.

2) Poit's voice makes my rabbit flip the fuck out.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:50 PM   #9
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2) Poit's voice makes my rabbit flip the fuck out.
I'm sorry, but I really want to see a video of this.
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:06 AM   #10
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I'm sorry, but I really want to see a video of this.
I'll see if I can catch him doing it during the next one and post it in the thread. He was fine during the intro stuff, but once you started on the NXT report, his started just running laps around his cage, knocking shit over and just kind of causing a racket. He calmed down, but as soon as your voice took over, he was crazy pants.
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:00 PM   #11
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I've learned two things this week so far (still got a fair amount of show left):

1) TNA's heel women's champion of Asian descent with a Pacific Islander bodyguard to protect her from the rest of the division she's pissed off is utterly different from WWE's heel women's champion of Asian descent with a Pacific Islander bodyguard to protect her from the rest of the division she's pissed off.

2) Poit's voice makes my rabbit flip the fuck out.
Well, it isn't really all that different. My argument is that the bodyguard angle is used like twice a year in like every promotion. It isn't anything new in prowrestling, so the "copying" thing doesn't really register with me.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:42 PM   #12
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Well, it isn't really all that different. My argument is that the bodyguard angle is used like twice a year in like every promotion. It isn't anything new in prowrestling, so the "copying" thing doesn't really register with me.
Come the fuck on. They got the same type of woman for fucks sake right after AJ got Tamina.

You are ignoring the facts of the issue by talking about it generally as a "bodyguard" gimmick.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:23 PM   #13
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1) TNA's heel women's champion of Asian descent with a Pacific Islander bodyguard to protect her from the rest of the division she's pissed off is utterly different from WWE's heel women's champion of Asian descent with a Pacific Islander bodyguard to protect her from the rest of the division she's pissed off.
AJ Lee is Puerto Rican, not Asian.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:59 PM   #14
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:49 PM   #15
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Pretty sure you'd be dead by the end of the podcast.
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3) Says an NXT match was "pretty good."
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:05 PM   #17
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But my point was that if you reduce the comparison down to just "they both have bodyguards", then of course claims of copying would be ridiculous. But there are many more similarities than just that.
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I just can't imagine them having a conversation about it and actually going out of their way to copy a storyline like that. What would the benefit be? And I mean, this is a low card women's storyline. Is anybody on either side going to make money off of this?

I see the similarities but "copying" gets a Poit-esque "Oh, come on" from Narcissus.
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:40 PM   #19
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I'm not saying that TNA copied WWE here.

I was just pointing out that it's ridiculous to say the only similarity is that they're both bodyguard angles.
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I'm not saying that TNA copied WWE here.

I was just pointing out that it's ridiculous to say the only similarity is that they're both bodyguard angles.
Also, this.
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You'd have thought that the similarities would have put TNA off running the angle.

Also, why doesn't the Gong Master have a gong?
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Perhaps TNA are doing it intentionally, to pay back WWE for the time they had somebody named AJ captured on a security camera, entering a hotel room with someone they shouldn't have, two weeks after TNA did the same thing.
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Perhaps TNA are doing it intentionally, to pay back WWE for the time they had somebody named AJ captured on a security camera, entering a hotel room with someone they shouldn't have, two weeks after TNA did the same thing.
That's different.
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It was quite the coincidence when Mike Tenay used the word "cadence" a few times (and I can't recall him using it before then or since) just a week or two after Triple H used it twenty times on Raw.
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I really want to defend TNA, but I can't after viewing the latest episode. Dixie, with her good looks and all, just can't promo to save her soul. The authority figure has been done, it's like watching the same show with fragmented time periods, jagged characters.

Part of me feels bad for the rumors going around of the sale, EC3 sounds good on paper and the kid is trying to get over on what little is given to him. It would be mad awkward if they kept him around with the gimmick if the Carters choose to sell.
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:48 PM   #28
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I've found Dixie's recent promos to be a lot smoother than anything Vickie Guerrero has ever done.
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I've found Dixie's recent promos to be a lot smoother than anything Vickie Guerrero has ever done.
Her being annoying is part of the shtick.

At the PPV Dixie just stood constipated and did nothing as AJ won the match.
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Her being annoying is part of the shtick.
This has nothing to do with my point. Vickie does a great job being annoying and getting heat, at a level Dixie should be aspiring to reach.

I was saying that Dixie's recent promos have been smoother, not better. Vickie always sounds like she's barely memorised her lines, and she awkwardly pauses in the wrong places, like Teddy Long.
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I am a Dixie supporter, but she didn't let the audience guide her at all. She seems focused to stay on scripted time, she didn't connect with the audience and bask in the heel heat.

Hopefully she can realize her strengths and just be present for looks
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To answer the actual question, I think it'll be Rollins. Ambrose has the personality to stick around as a mid-to-upper card heel until he retires, and Reigns will always fit in as muscle for someone. I think Rollins is doomed to be Justin Gabriel after the Shield.
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I agree, Rollins is most likely, and I'm not nearly as high on Ambrose as others. Reigns has a great look. HATE using a spear as a finisher though. He was using the Mark of Excellence than Mark Jindrak used to do while Reigns was in NXT. Gotta improve though mic skills though. It's almost like you wish you could take Rollins"s speed, Ambrose"s personality and Reigns"s size and mold them into one wrestler.
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Gail Kim is too fucking good to need a bodyguard. If they wanted to do something with Tapa, Chris Sabin should have hired her to be Velvet's unwanted protector. Or they can keep her down in OVW until she becomes better.
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Also, as much as I love him, Seth Rollins seems like the least sticky of the Shield guys. Ambrose has got enough of a blend between personality and skill. Reigns is the sort of prototypical WWE Superstar the company likes. Rollins is a great worker, seller and a decent promo, but he's the sort of guy who -- if he gets a few wellness suspensions against his name or has a few backstage incidents -- could suddenly be losing constantly on Superstars and Main Event.

I doubt that will happen, but I just can't see Ambrose failing or Reigns being allowed to.
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Agree with others about Rollins seems to be the one who's very likely to fade once the Shield disbands. Not because he's an obvious weak link but because he seems to be one of those types where his real star potential won't start to show up until years later like a Ziggler and others who had slow builds.

Ambrose and Reigns already have their star potential showing with Ambrose being pretty well rounded as a wrestler and Reigns fitting the big man mold that Vince and the WWE love.
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Roman Reigns seems to be teasing some sort of dissatisfaction with The Shield at the moment -- his look to Ambrose during their backstage promo on SmackDown and then being pulled away from a fight by Dean Ambrose & Seth Rollins. Could we be heading towards a Triple Threat for the US Title between the three in the near future?
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Think it could be Ambrose...it was rumored he rubbed a few people up the wrong way as he is a little strange,a little off the wall and people didn't know how to take him in the beginning.

WWE likes team players who give little trouble (Punk aside), and I think he could easily make mistakes running solo and find himself lost in the shuffle. After all, his look isn't enough to win second chances. Hope it's not true, but I think he could be the most likely candidate.

Rollins could be like a daredevil Jeff Hardy-like character, except more stable and better in the ring, and Reigns could be the Batista-like explosive power man, wish would see them both safe.
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It looks like the Shield break up seed is already planted with the way Reigns looked at Ambrose on RAW and Smackdown. If they feud, I can see Rollins getting lost in the shuffle.
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