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Old 07-01-2011, 05:12 PM   #1
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Big boys should stop acting like little boys
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nah j/k, it's just an easy analogy/'gets my point across'
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Yeah i thought so. Some people are just inherently sexist and get mad when that is challenged or presented to them. That was sexist tho
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'Little boys' woulda done the same tho dude. This is a hugely sexist industry but we dont need to feed it
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lol fuck off
Im fucking dead serious. No need to lower ourselves man. Ill shut up about it now but you must see what i mean?
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'lol fuck off' is because I believe you're taking the piss/yanking my chain/arsing around. Because anybody that has happily thrown around homosexuality and mental illness laced 'insults' in the past would surely not gain some variety of internet morals when it comes to faux-sexism
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I am not taking the piss. Fair enough i am completely guilty of what you said but as we grow we learn right? I wasn't aware of the level of sexism in wwe or for that matter, in any walk of life until it was pointed out to me about a year ago and i am just trying to make a point here. It goes over most people's heads because they are so used to it and it is treated as normal.
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Interesting you say I take it seriously though, considering you haven't let it go.
I saw your response a few hours ago, I responded because the thread was bumped and because my post was aimed at others as well as yourself. And talking of taking it seriously, you weren't online then appeared with a lengthy response in the time it took me to read and respond to Jeremy TB29's post. Meaning you either copied my post and took time to respond to it elsewhere or can type faster than E.T can read.

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He's not horrible on the mic but he is not in the Rock, Austin, Jericho, Foley, JBL's league. And people don't hate on Cena because it's the cool thing to do. They hate on him because he is not entertaining to watch or listen to.
I don't think he can really be judged on the mic compared to the likes of those guys yet strictly because he's been aimed at kids for the last 6-7 years. I personally believe he is as good as most of those only he hasn't been able to cut the 'cool' promos. I've said for a ridiculous amount of time that should he turn heel at any point, we'll see some really special promos from Cena.
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I don't think he can really be judged on the mic compared to the likes of those guys yet strictly because he's been aimed at kids for the last 6-7 years. I personally believe he is as good as most of those only he hasn't been able to cut the 'cool' promos. I've said for a ridiculous amount of time that should he turn heel at any point, we'll see some really special promos from Cena.[/QUOTE]

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I saw your response a few hours ago, I responded because the thread was bumped and because my post was aimed at others as well as yourself. And talking of taking it seriously, you weren't online then appeared with a lengthy response in the time it took me to read and respond to Jeremy TB29's post. Meaning you either copied my post and took time to respond to it elsewhere or can type faster than E.T can read.


Same here, you weren't online when I posted the response your referring to, then when I was responding, I saw your previous reply. Meaning, the timing was coincidental. Otherwise, I have only talked about Orton's interview. Not really interested in repeating myself. Kinda way too redundant...



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I don't think he can really be judged on the mic compared to the likes of those guys yet strictly because he's been aimed at kids for the last 6-7 years. I personally believe he is as good as most of those only he hasn't been able to cut the 'cool' promos. I've said for a ridiculous amount of time that should he turn heel at any point, we'll see some really special promos from Cena.
Yes, but Orton clearly was comparing them now. He even took it so far as to claim he's "lightyears" ahead of anyone. A very laughable and ridiculous statement. All Cena usually does on the mic is made very bad jokes and keep saying he's being himself. Not very groundbreaking or creative. I will agree when he was a heel on SD in 2003, he was starting to be a unique mic worker, but since he's been face, he hasn't stood out. And far as the guys I listed that were better, I was simply pointing out Cena has a long way to go before he can be considered a great mic worker. But, Cena has been in the WWE for almost 10 years, and compared to the ppl I listed he isn't in their league yet. Maybe he can turn that perception around when he does finally turn heel(when and if that ever happens). However, as of right now, he isn't a very solid performer on the mic.

I wanna be very clear here though. I'm not a bandwagon Cena hater. I simply dislike the guy b/c he's a kid attraction who was loaded with potential. Back in 2003, I was a Cena fan, b/c he was working the mic well and pretty much ripping his opponents to bits on the mic. Then when they turned him face and drafted him to Raw, they trashed his gimmick and avoided it like the plague. Essentially killing any uniqueness or creativity his character had. That fact was never more apparent than when The Rock returned and verbally destroyed him. He had to return ro the rapping b/c that's the only way he could hope to stay up with The Rock on the mic. As the time draws closer to their WM 28 match, I really hope WWE turns Cena and we get to see some classic mic work...
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Great interview, don't rly like him but he seems like a 'cool dude' tbf.

I forgot about those shitty actresses who played his wife..god they were terrible
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I fucking love your avatar MoFo, its just mental
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i need a piss and it almost came out early there, that picture is fucking great
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Am I really the only one here that wasn't impressed with The Rock's mic work on his return?

The guy was chewing the scenery more than Brian Blessed.
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Am I really the only one here that wasn't impressed with The Rock's mic work on his return?

The guy was chewing the scenery more than Brian Blessed.

Honestly, The Rock wasn't that impressive either. Clearly his mic work isn't what it used to be when he was a regular WWE wrestler. He did a decent job, but with him going into WM next year into the ME, he needs to bring more than a retort about Fruity Pebbles. If I hear that one more time, I swear Cena should literally carry a box of fruity pebbles to the ring and show him how ridiculous it is. Neither guy really stole the show after weeks and weeks of trash talking.
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I wasn't so concerned with the content but more the delivery. He just seemed to shout. A lot. And over act. A lot.
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I think most of that is b/c his delivery timing and reactions were off since he's rusty in the mic area. For the most part, he spoke the way he always did, only using worse material. If the content sucks, so does the promo. They are proof is you don't say the right things, then promos are irrelevant. Especially if it's only a retort and not a face to face promo battle. Putting no heart into the promo, coupled with bad lines can make even the best mic worker look weak. And Rock looked alot weaker than he did in the Attitude era...
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I think most of that is b/c his delivery timing and reactions were off since he's rusty in the mic area. For the most part, he spoke the way he always did, only using worse material. If the content sucks, so does the promo. They are proof is you don't say the right things, then promos are irrelevant. Especially if it's only a retort and not a face to face promo battle. Putting no heart into the promo, coupled with bad lines can make even the best mic worker look weak. And Rock looked alot weaker than he did in the Attitude era...
The Rock was slightly, maybe just a tiny bit rusty and maybe all his acting classes possibly affected his delivery a little (cos he acted a bit too much) but his return promo was the best promo on RAW in a long time. It was funny and awesome when he mentioned Cena. This is another case of the eternally unsatisfied IWC member. For once just enjoy the fucking show as a fan and not a critic
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The Rock was slightly, maybe just a tiny bit rusty and maybe all his acting classes possibly affected his delivery a little (cos he acted a bit too much) but his return promo was the best promo on RAW in a long time. It was funny and awesome when he mentioned Cena. This is another case of the eternally unsatisfied IWC member. For once just enjoy the fucking show as a fan and not a critic
So what now? I can't be objective and review my opinion on a promo? Everyone here on the IWC gives their thoughts on wrestling, negative and positive. I'm sure even you see faults in one topic or another. If not, then you are a true mark. The fact of the matter is wrestling is at a down time, and it shows in their product. I will grant you his initial return promo was great, but after that, he carried the fruity pebble joke too far.

I do enjoy the shows, but their lack of effort is very apparent when something as big as The Rock's return is botched. If that makes me a critic for pointing out the obvious, then I guess label me a critic. I prefer to say I'm open minded enough to see the good and the bad, and review it fairly. Never ceases to amaze me that ppl who never met me jump to conclusions on wrestling forums.
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Never ceases to amaze me that ppl who never met me jump to conclusions on wrestling forums.
Dunno what meeting you has to do with that but i can say this honestly, hand on heart, that if i met you i would jump your bones. You tasty little treat
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Dunno what meeting you has to do with that but i can say this honestly, hand on heart, that if i met you i would jump your bones. You tasty little treat
Dude, I don't know whether that's a threat or a pick up line. Either way your a sick mofo
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Dunno bout that Punk. I'm a pretty big optimist when it comes to wrestling. I like most of what is going on and am the TPWW advocate for "STOP LIVING IN THE PAST" (i.e. "bring back the Attitude Era"). So, I wouldn't say I came under the "eternally unsatisfied" bracket.

The fact that he's spent the last 7 years acting would make me think he'd have a better grasp of the nuances of a monologue. But to me it just seemed he shouted a lot and did that oh-so-clever kiddie voice to mock Cena. Thoroughly unimpressed.
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It's a pick up threat. Think of it as a kinda ass-raping but i will buy you flowers and chocolates before and after
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It's a pick up threat. Think of it as a kinda ass-raping but i will buy you flowers and chocolates before and after
You promise?
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If you're cute enough sure
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Thanks for the clarification
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