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Old 06-24-2004, 07:32 PM   #1
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if anyone cares, rooney has broken his metatarsal bone in his foot, a la becks did. lets just hope he comes back and carries on improving.
Nah I don't really.

Well I do for the lad but it's all gonna be another excuse come tomorrow.
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Eriksson just has to acknowledge his mistake, if i remember correctly the only time those tactics have worked for us was in the world cup against Denmark, and the success then had a lot to do with the fact that we led 3-0.

With the talent we have going forward and to have not learnt anything from the France game, to play like that is just stupid.
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to be fair, against Argentina Shearer did actually elbow the keeper
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England's best player was Ashley Cole by a mile. Sol Campbell can tackle well but don't ask him to do anything else like run or pass because he can't.

Serisouly, I KNEW Portugal would win just by watching the national anthems. England's team and it's fans barely looked like they wanted to be there and the Portugal fans were actually crying with passion. They wanted it more.
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England's best player was Ashley Cole by a mile. Sol Campbell can tackle well but don't ask him to do anything else like run or pass because he can't.
Cole was great, but Campbell was a rock at the back too, I think they were both fantastic and probably our two best players.
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Funny, I got the same impression when Beckham stood ready to take his penalty. Sod the penalty spot crumbling, he did NOT look confident, whereas the keeper looked well up for it (not that it mattered since he didn't come close to it, but y'know...). David James looked nervy for all those penalties too. So did Rui Costa mind you, I guess I must have been on to something.
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Beckham looked exhausted.

Ronaldo had a cocky smirk from the national anthems to the penalties. Knew he wouldn't miss.
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Yeah I want to kill Ronaldo, if nothing else for his fucking smile when he scores/dives and gets a free kick or just whenever the hell he smiles.

Similar to Sheringham, I hate to see dickheads who piss me off constantly smiling.
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how can you defend for 87 minutes & exspect to get something out of a game?

we were shit, owen had 4 touches all game, his goal, the shot over the top of bar, think he had a pass to someone & his penalty! 4 touches isnt good enough at any level, beckham should be banned from penalties while playing for england, thats 3 in a row now he's missed now, again not good enough!

wayne rooney is person i thought would be fall guy from this tourament how wrong could i be? good luck to him next season as him lampard, neville,campbell,gerrard & cole where only people who tryed in euro 2004 for england.

i blame........ steve mclaren, why take a forward off who is player of match & on hattrick in 2 games who could have earned match against greece if left on? why i dont know but mclaren has something against people scoring 3 goals in a game, look at last season for boro, maccarone, job, juninho, nemeth they all had chance last season but he took them off before they could score a 3rd & kill a game why coz he has no idea about tactics.

i apologise as im pissed off about the loss, i was on floor in pub praying for us to score, honestly think ref took a bung to trow game & allow them to win?

what was wrong with campbells goal does antone know?
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Portugal were the better side tonight. England were never going to win this tournament without having the ability to keep possession of the football, because teams will pick you off if you constantly rely on a last line of defence along the six yard box.

Michael Owen was brilliant tonight, and I felt sorry for him that the service was so shite. Owen Hargreaves put in one of the stupidest, most inept performances I've seen from an international player. He had fresh legs, but spent his time throwing stupid long balls and shite crosses at the two small strikers.

The disallowed goal was always going to be blown up. As anyone who plays football, at any level, knows, you just can't put your arm on another player's shoulder like Terry did and not expect the referee to whistle for it. Always going to happen, anywhere on the pitch. The situation just magnified it.

It would have been harsh on the Portuguese for having the better attitude throughout the game, and going for it. Deco was fucking awful, and Miguel is a terrible footballer. I know Scolari has fallen out with Paulo Ferreira, but he needs to patch that up and get him back on.
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Michael Owen was brilliant tonight.
were we watchin the same match, he scored then disapeared, thats 1 more thing than hes done all tourniment he is up there with beckham and scholes for biggest disapointment!

has anyone heard of a player called joe cole?

just i think he is who should have been bought on inplace of scholes, ok he's not the best defensivley but when he's on his game he is quite good and would have given other teams something to think about rather than phil uglyiest out of 2 ugly brothers neville.
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I have been saying all along how shit Owen Hargreaves is, I am glad some one else agrees.
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Scholes should not have been subbed, simple as. And Owen only became quiet when he lacked service because Erikkson went defensive.
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Scholes should not have been subbed, simple as. And Owen only became quiet when he lacked service because Erikkson went defensive.
yeh i know, he went quite after 3 f**king minutes except his other 3 touches during match, come on the guy didnt peform throughout and he is ment to be a forward, he was never there when ball was played forward and lost it almost everytime he had it.

he was getting to the stage where heskey was looking like being a good idea to bring on, thats how bad he's played!!!

scholes shouldnt have been subbed, tell me 1 thing he's done, absolutly nothing, dyer, cole or even butt if not injured should have played instead of him, i know its easy to say now but i was saying this after first game!

our biggest mistake was not taking defoe as think he would have done more than darious and heskey put together!
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Owen was sharp as a tack tonight, worrying the shit out the Portuguese defenders when he got in between them. It's not his fault England abandoned all ambition after scoring. He shouldn't have to be chasing after aimless long balls.

Dyer or Cole would have been a better option than Hargreaves. Phil Neville did his job well, but Dyer or Cole would have given England an outlet.
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Owen was sharp as a tack tonight, worrying the shit out the Portuguese defenders when he got in between them. It's not his fault England abandoned all ambition after scoring. He shouldn't have to be chasing after aimless long balls.

Dyer or Cole would have been a better option than Hargreaves. Phil Neville did his job well, but Dyer or Cole would have given England an outlet.
why the f**k are people prasing owen he did nothing, his goal was due to bad defending and he never looked like scoring as its clear he has no confidence while playing for england!

owen was as sharp as an inatimant object he was pure rubbish along with beckham & scholes. i was excpecting scholes to be running, passing, shooting,scoring,being the scholes of old especially as he'd scored & broke his duck in last game, the way he played i think it'll be 30+ games before he scores again!
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His finish was outstanding. Now shut the fuck up.
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His finish was outstanding. Now shut the fuck up.
it was a good finish dont get me wrong, but are you seriously telling me your happy with the way he played?

if you are your talking out of your ass, it was a good finish nothing more nothing less, it was due to bad defending and slow keeper reactions as was the header they scored, i suppose that was outstanding aswell was it?
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Fucking hell, he scored. He's a striker, he scores fucking goals, and he fucking scored.

Does that add up for you? He can only score when he gets the chance, it's not his fucking fault Sven decided to give the game up when Rooney went off. England decided there and then to stop playing. Owen was pulling the defenders left, right, and all over the place, and causing them all sorts of trouble in the first 20 minutes.

Ashley Cole was also magnificent, as was Gary Neville. England were let down by a manager who doesn't have the balls to see out a game and play his own way.
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Fucking hell, he scored. He's a striker, he scores fucking goals, and he fucking scored.

Does that add up for you? He can only score when he gets the chance, it's not his fucking fault Sven decided to give the game up when Rooney went off. England decided there and then to stop playing. Owen was pulling the defenders left, right, and all over the place, and causing them all sorts of trouble in the first 20 minutes.

Ashley Cole was also magnificent, as was Gary Neville. England were let down by a manager who doesn't have the balls to see out a game and play his own way.
you got 3 things right. neville and cole for way they played throughout, also sven got tactics wrong again

but you said owen is a striker who scores goals yes this is true but he scored once and thats not enough for me, i dont want to see him pulling defenders out to the left or right as that leaves us wit f all up frount, he should be using his pace and playing off the last man. he didnt do this enough for me.

i am not blaming owen for loss as i blame sven & mclaren, if we want to win anything, we need to bring in someone new such as curbishly as think he would get tactics right then tony adams or ian wright, even gazza to go in at half time if losing & show them what it means to be english and restore some pride in them!

id show footage of ian wright after rooney scored, tony adams when captain singing his heart out to national anthem and gazza pissed during his itv spell at last world cup when went interviewing on streets. you can see theyd do anything to be able to pull that dhirt on again and thats what we need some pride putting back into the team.

a forigner canot manage a national side as has conflickting interest in my opinion. SVEN out!
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Okay, haven't seen the match yet, but if we played defensively when we were only 1-0 up, then we deserve to lose. It's a stupid fucking tactic in the first place, and after the France game, you'd think a guy who makes as much money as Sven to come up with these decisions without much of a problem.
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Just got back in after a night out.
What the hell was Erikson doing. The long balls to Owen and Rooney/Vassel had no effect and after the goal we played to defensive. Just like our exit against Brazil, thought he would have learnt his lesson.
I hate Ronaldo, he's a cocky shite. Diving like a madman.
Did Scholes go off because of an injury?
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Just woke up, what a hangover.

It seemed that it was going to be our night when Lampard equalised but alas. THat ref's class me and a mate were calling him a poser. He makes his decisions and does his hand actions in a right poserish way. Sorry still a bit drunk. I got an England hat from somewhere.

The lads were unlucky. I think bringing on Phil Neville on (especially in midfield) was a mistake as well as sitting back and inviting pressure. Ah well not to worry, we got further than a few of the "better" teams.
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Saw the highlights before when I got home. The English lads were unlucky with the disallowed goal but still, looked like a good game.
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Old 06-25-2004, 06:57 AM   #32
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So I hear England lost.
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Old 06-25-2004, 07:15 AM   #34
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Slow news day?
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The midfield let us down.

Thats all I can be arsed to say.

*particularly Becks
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Oh well, I'm over the worst now. Portugal were the better team, but we were unlucky, I think that sums it up. Hopefully Sweden will trounce them in the semis and make me feel better though. ABBA! VOLVO! IKEA! REINDEER MEAT! ULRIKA! Yep, I've chosen my new allegiance.
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does anyone know if fantasy football was on last night?

its just all i can remember doing last night was me and a friend kept singing the adventures of christian ronaldo and then doing a daft dance like frank skinner, we did this every time ronaldo fell over his laces (so everytime he got the ball really)

i was just wondering what his adventure was last night on ff.
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Okay, i saw some of the game but then i fell asleep. Arse.

At least Cristiano annoyed everyone who hates united here, and Portugal were my original pick to win it, although that seems unlikely now.
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Is Rooney possibly the first person to have someone stand on his foot, break it and have a free kick given against him?

It was also funny watching Cole put Ronaldo on his arse and get a free kick for it.
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