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Old 03-24-2012, 10:51 AM   #1
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I don't believe pro athletes are overpaid. If you consider how much money they make for their team, league, and companies they get pretty fair payment. Remember, for every $10,000,000 contract there is a guy making a 10th of that or less depending on sport.
a tenth of that 10,000,000 is still 100,000 which is under the league minimum i believe... so no, noone should feel sorry for nfl players saying they dont get enough money because if they manage their money right, they will be set for life
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Old 03-23-2012, 08:13 PM   #2
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Yeah fuck trying to stop rising gas prices, let's worry about bounties on overpaid athletes. Good to know my tax dollars are going to good use
If you think they're overpaid stop watching the games, buying merchandise, or buying tickets. Maybe you don't do all of those things but they wouldn't be paid that much if the market didn't demand it.
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Yeah fuck trying to stop rising gas prices, let's worry about bounties on overpaid athletes. Good to know my tax dollars are going to good use
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Tebow trade hit another snag but expected to be cleared by Saturday.

Tracy Porter signs with the Broncos while Jeff Saturday signs with the Packers.
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lol Packers lose their Pro Bowl center to us and replace him with Saturday. Damn.
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Marion Barber retires at 28. Damn. It really does seem like running backs don't play past 32 anymore in this league.
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The average career for RB's is only around 8-9 seasons anyway. You have to figure that's a lot of wear and tear on these guys. Still odd though considering the NFL is a passing leauge now.

Guess that means MJD has 1 or 2 more years left in him.
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The average career for RB's is only around 8-9 seasons anyway. You have to figure that's a lot of wear and tear on these guys. Still odd though considering the NFL is a passing leauge now.

Guess that means MJD has 1 or 2 more years left in him.
If you break it down even further, only 3 to maybe 4 years would be considered their prime earning years which is why a majority of startng RBs try to get that mega deal as early as possible into their career.


Forgot to add a little tidbit of news with the earlier post but according to today's Mike and Mike in the Morning's show, the number of players to get suspended and/or fined from Bounty-gate could reach the 40s to 50s range. NFL is allowing the NFLPA to review the players in question and help out in determining the level of punishment needed.
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That's so true. I guess I just never really paid attention to it. It feels like guys like LT, Brandon Jacobs, etc... have been playing for awhile, but when you look at the numbers, they all seem to peak around age 28 or 29.

It makes it easier to understand why a guy like Forte is pissed about getting the franchise tag. Backs really only have one shot at the big money contract. Seems like such a small window for a key position.
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Arian Foster might be the lone exception there. That guy is just that damned good.
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I hope so, but LT was a beast at that point in his career too.

I really Foster as a player and person though. Met him randomly at a restaurant in Atlanta last year. Nice dude. Not stuck up or anything.
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If you break it down even further, only 3 to maybe 4 years would be considered their prime earning years which is why a majority of startng RBs try to get that mega deal as early as possible into their career.
Yeah that sucks. Especially since rookie contracts are less now under the new CBA and if a good back holds out in year 4 or 5 of his deal he'll be made to look like a bad guy. Plus, even after that contract expires the team can just put a franchise tag on him for the next 3 seasons. By the time he's an unrestricted free agent, he's been used up.

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I wonder what "expert" came up with those figures. Not digging at you Smelly, it's just over these past couple of weeks it's been glaringly obvious that these guys don't know any more than we do about what's going on in the NFL. I only trust IncarceratedBob now.

They'll probably suspend guys like Vilma who were clearly the ringleaders, but if that many players were suspended it would create huge headaches. Like, it wouldn't necessarily be justice if current players like Scott Fujita were fined or suspended but then you have a potential hall of famer like Darren Sharper escaping punishment because he's retired. What do you do, add a year on the amount of time that must pass before Sharper is eligible?

Are players who weren't on the team the last two seasons going to be suspended for their participation three years ago before Saints officials were warned or lied to the NFL? What about teams like the Broncos who sign free agents from that team like Tracy Porter. If Porter gets suspended for half a year, would the Broncos be able to get out of that deal?

I just think it would be really hard to custom tailor punishment for 50 guys and still make it fair across the board. I believe punishing the coaches and the known organizers on the players side will probably be enough. I doubt anyone who ever played a down on that defense during that time will get served.
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I swear, I am going to try my hardest to get into football this year. Now that I understand how the game works, learning the players and their roles is the hard part.

Kinda torn though, both reasons I watched the Colts are now gone. Still going to support them but really going to hope Peyton does well elsewhere.
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Sanders and Manning. I tend to find a player I like and then cheer for the team they are on. Happened with Hasek in the NHL before he retired. Not likely to happen here as I don't feel the connection I did with Hasek in the way I idolized the man.
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I hear a lot of people complain about how much athletes make, so if you are so opposed to how much they make: don't watch it, don't buy tickets, don't buy clothes, don't do shit, and ask others to do the same. I will say that I have no clue how these MLB teams afford the contracts because only like 8 teams actually put asses in seats.
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I hear a lot of people complain about how much athletes make, so if you are so opposed to how much they make: don't watch it, don't buy tickets, don't buy clothes, don't do shit, and ask others to do the same. I will say that I have no clue how these MLB teams afford the contracts because only like 8 teams actually put asses in seats.
yea but the point you were making was that there are a ton of guys making a 10th of these 10,000,000 dollar contracts and made it sound like "poor them" when for most people who are making 100,000 could set themselves for a very long time
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yea but the point you were making was that there are a ton of guys making a 10th of these 10,000,000 dollar contracts and made it sound like "poor them" when for most people who are making 100,000 could set themselves for a very long time
Most people have careers that last longer than 5 years.
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Most people have careers that last longer than 5 years.
hence the responsibility of them to get an education in college... did you seriously use that as a point?
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Where else are they going to make that sort of money though? Even if they made $250,000 a year, that's far more than what most of them could get with their communication or kinesiology degrees. The reason why they pay them so much money is because it adds to the appeal of the sport. It makes the game appear 'larger than life' when you see these physical freaks who make unbelievable amounts of money beat up each other. Without the huge contracts the big sports franchises don't look any better than Major League Soccer or some other second rate organization. All it is is a really ostentatious marketing gimmick.
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Yes, the owners of these teams shell out millons upon millions in contracts just for marketing. That is why they did it from the beginning.
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:55 PM   #29
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Then Free Agency came along and they opened up Pandora's Box.
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Obviously there's a lot more to it than that, but I do think that's one facet of it which has evolved in the last 20-30 years. I'm talking about in terms of Free Agency more than anything else. Your teams signs someone like Alex Rodriguez or Julius Peppers to an absurd amount of money, which in turn brings a bunch of attention to the team because he appears like a much watch player due to how much money was spent on him.
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Pats and Chad Ochocinco's agree on a restructuring deal which saves the team $2 million and keeps Ochocinco on the team for next season.

Similar to when Belichick apologized for spy-gate during the annual owners meeting, Sean Payton is expected to apologized in front of all the owners and provide a lot of information in regards to bounty-gate.

Cowboys and Redskins file grievances against the NFL in regards to salary cap penalties issued to both during last season's uncapped year. Those were the only 2 teams to break the "gentleman's agreement" where no team would go over the expired cap while a new CBA was being worked on.
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apparently Sean Payton/the Saints have "approached" Bill Parcells about coaching the Saints this season
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Probably would be easier/cheaper to just promote one of the assistant coaches who already are familiar with the Saints system.

Would be interesting to see what the Saints would do if Parcells managed to have a great season.
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Probably would be easier/cheaper to just promote one of the assistant coaches who already are familiar with the Saints system.

Would be interesting to see what the Saints would do if Parcells managed to have a great season.
Agreed. The Tuna's been out of the coaching game for quite sometime now. I'd trust him to run my front office, he did make some miracles in Miami before new ownership took over. But not coach my team.
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Mike Wallace still wants Fitzgerald money. Probably not going to happen.
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I don't get all the Mark Sanchez doubt/ hate. He's gone to two AFC title games and statistically he's improved every year. If you look at Eli's numbers in his first four years in the league and compare to them to Sanchez's, they're very similar . Hell, Eli's statistics were worse than Mark's in the season they won the Super Bowl and he was named game MVP.

He's no Matty Ice, but I think in a couple more years, Sanchez will be a very good QB in this league.
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that posts begs me to ask...Mark Sanchez or Joe Flacco?

I consider Flacco to be much better than Sanchez, but of course Im horribly biased...
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Joe Flacco should be much better than he is. Feel like he has plateaued.
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