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Old 07-16-2012, 11:08 PM   #1
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If I was booking, I would have had Cena pick Punk up, step to the side, and tell big show "Knock Him OUT!!!!"

BANG KO Punch

Cena cashes in, wins the WWE Title. Biggest heel turn since Hogan.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:11 PM   #2
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If I was booking, I would have had Cena pick Punk up, step to the side, and tell big show "Knock Him OUT!!!!"

BANG KO Punch

Cena cashes in, wins the WWE Title. Biggest heel turn since Hogan.
Not gonna happen. Not with Cena trying to become the "Wilt Chamberlain" of Make-A-Wish, not to mention the millions (and millions) of dollars in revenue that would be lost in hat/shirt/wristband sales just to appease the IWC for about 3 months with a heel turn.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:15 PM   #3
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Not gonna happen. Not with Cena trying to become the "Wilt Chamberlain" of Make-A-Wish, not to mention the millions (and millions) of dollars in revenue that would be lost in hat/shirt/wristband sales just to appease the IWC for about 3 months with a heel turn.
Basically this.


IWC cant seem to grasp that it is not the focus of the WWE and wont be for quite some time
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:28 PM   #4
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IWC cant seem to grasp that it is not the focus of the WWE and wont be for quite some time
It's not so much that, it's the fact that the default answer "to cure SuperCena" is a heel turn.

He doesn't have to go heel to change up his character and be less boring, repetitive, and predictable. Hogan's turn was kind of "what else can we do with him?" He had been a heel, but that was before he was a household name, whereas Cena's BEEN heel before while in the spotlight... that's pretty much how he made a name for himself. His face turn came because he was the hot new thing that everyone got behind (much like Ziggler, people want him to turn face SOOO BAD).

Changing sides is way too much of a kneejerk reaction. Sometimes it makes sense, but other times, you don't have to turn someone face/heel to make them fresh. It's not him being a face that has run its course, it's the whole "overcoming the odds, even when it makes no sense to do so" thing.

Cena turning heel won't fix that. And THAT is what people need to grasp.
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:32 AM   #5
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It's not so much that, it's the fact that the default answer "to cure SuperCena" is a heel turn.

He doesn't have to go heel to change up his character and be less boring, repetitive, and predictable. Hogan's turn was kind of "what else can we do with him?" He had been a heel, but that was before he was a household name, whereas Cena's BEEN heel before while in the spotlight... that's pretty much how he made a name for himself. His face turn came because he was the hot new thing that everyone got behind (much like Ziggler, people want him to turn face SOOO BAD).

Changing sides is way too much of a kneejerk reaction. Sometimes it makes sense, but other times, you don't have to turn someone face/heel to make them fresh. It's not him being a face that has run its course, it's the whole "overcoming the odds, even when it makes no sense to do so" thing.

Cena turning heel won't fix that. And THAT is what people need to grasp.
I understand that this is your opinion, and opinions aren't supposed to be right or wrong, but yours is simply wrong.

Sorry.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:09 PM   #6
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Kind of anti-climatic to actually announce when it gets cashed but then again next week is a special event.

Probably the best way for a case holder to actually lose if they have no real advantage but at the same time it guarantees Cena doesn't turn heel since the case provides the easiest way for the switch to happen.

A lot better RAW than last week.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:11 PM   #7
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I somehow knew that would be the finish, although I expected him to announce he was cashing in at SS, but damnit. That had to be the best opportunity ever to turn Cena heel. I was totally drooling over the possibility that maybe, just maybe, he would cash in tonight and turn in the process and finally become fresh again. Oh well.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:14 PM   #8
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Kind of anti-climatic to actually announce when it gets cashed but then again next week is a special event.

Probably the best way for a case holder to actually lose if they have no real advantage but at the same time it guarantees Cena doesn't turn heel since the case provides the easiest way for the switch to happen.

A lot better RAW than last week.
It's like when RVD cashed in on Cena. Not "anti-climatic". Just using the case for a "big fight feel" match.

Cena vs Punk just being announced leads to the chance of a shitty finish just to stretch things out. Cena cashing in his one guaranteed title match makes it a PPV quality match.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:18 PM   #9
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It's like when RVD cashed in on Cena. Not "anti-climatic". Just using the case for a "big fight feel" match.

Cena vs Punk just being announced leads to the chance of a shitty finish just to stretch things out. Cena cashing in his one guaranteed title match makes it a PPV quality match.
I really hope Cena doesn't get the title before we get either Punk v Rock or Punk v Lesnar not all that optimistic that second one will ever happen
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way too much stuff being jammed into 3 hours next week..
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:16 PM   #11
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Next week is the best set up Raw of all time. Holy fuck.
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I am hoping against hope for Punk vs Rock at WrestleMania but it won't happen.

More likely that Cena wins the title next week and uses it to bribe Rock for a rematch which could only really happen at WrestleMania. I can't really see Rock wrestling at SummerSlam.
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:12 AM   #13
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I am hoping against hope for Punk vs Rock at WrestleMania but it won't happen.

More likely that Cena wins the title next week and uses it to bribe Rock for a rematch which could only really happen at WrestleMania. I can't really see Rock wrestling at SummerSlam.
I'd be more interested if Rocky cost Cena the match which led to the Rock/Cena II.
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I'd be more interested if Rocky cost Cena the match which led to the Rock/Cena II.
Twice in a lifetime.

Seriously though, I can't think of a way they could actually make that match and make it seem like Rock has a chance of winning again.
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Twice in a lifetime.

Seriously though, I can't think of a way they could actually make that match and make it seem like Rock has a chance of winning again.
Valid point. Better yet, seeing as how Rock said he would be champion again one day or whatever, they could have held out and had Cena cash in had Rock won the title. Someone probably already said this but whatever.
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The problem I have with Rock vs Cena again is that the outcome would be predictable after Rock won last year.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:34 AM   #21
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Or maybe that's not necessary. Maybe the Cena fans getting their way after all the tears shed the year before is enough. I don't know.
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Hope Rock goes for the WHC instead of the WWE. I know he said WWE but he could just say he changed his mind.
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The WHC is seen as the second rate title now. No way Rock goes for that one.
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This RAW is going to kick ass. Huge returns, Huge builds to "dream matches", a wedding that will no doubt end in a huge clusterfuck of memories for wrestling fans for generations, and a WWE Championship match that will probably be awesome and you can't predict a winner easily. Oh and did I mention...
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