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Old 02-12-2013, 12:09 AM   #1
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Yes. It was for his second wellness violation. And one more would lead to him being immediately terminated. You can say what you want about how "people say he's cleaned up his act..." but the fact that he JUST failed 9 months ago is PROBABLY a pretty good reason why they've steered him clear of the title picture, instead using him to make guys who are in the title picture look good, and will probably continue to do so.

Congrats to him for "the most powerful people in the company" acknowledging that he turned his shit around for 6 years. Pretty sure "the most powerful people in the company" are the ones who suspended him last year for fucking up again and have kept him out of the title picture since... so... ya know...
yes, and given how sensitive WWE are nowadays in terms of the spotlight and PR and so forth because of things like the TV-PG related sponsors, the family image they've tried to attain and the going all out as a global brand, that even something like a false positive or a tainted supplement can lead to you failing a wellness test and they don't get reversed or overturned for the sake of the integrity of the policy/company.

Both titles have been "wrapped up" with long term champions the entire time he's been back until recently so that's simply not true, this is really the first chance he's had to get near the secondary belt. And you make it sound like the policy goes something along the lines of "Vince or Triple H get the test results, see who's failed, make a phone call and bin them for 30/60 days". It's an automatic thing, their hands are tied no matter what the reason for the failed test, they couldn't do anything about it even if they wanted to without pretty much destroying the entire policy.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:29 PM   #2
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went from not caring at all about Swagger to being really quite interested in the space of that one match/promo tonight, probably a bit too early/no momentum for the chamber tho
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:23 AM   #4
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If the way the wellness policy is carried out is as flawed as you claim it is (I've never heard specific examples of people being wrongfully suspended while WWE's hands are tied but regardless...) then that would suck. They'd still be in the same issue of putting a lot of stock in a guy's hands who is on a thin rope.

He's definitely been used to make the current challenger/s look good at the time. Jobbing cleanly no less. He's definitely been specifically used for his star power since coming back. ADR even made him tap out clean while he was challenging for the title.

And I want Orton to be in the title picture. I think the guy is ridiculously valuable. He's got that "built in" overness and "it factor" now that they try and fail to FORCE on guys to get them over. I just think the company doesn't want to put him in a position where they could be left scrambling so easily. Especially when there are so many "safer" options that could do a great job in that spot.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:25 AM   #5
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Orton vs Sheamus could be an amazing "undercard" match for a stacked WrestleMania.
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He got AJ boob.
Oh, ok. I always forget that people think she has breasts.

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It's weird that there was no stip added to ADR vs Big Show tonight. Two Last Man Standing matches, then the feud starts picking up and getting hot and it comes to a head with a regular one on one match? Seems so backwards.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:11 AM   #18
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It's weird that there was no stip added to ADR vs Big Show tonight. Two Last Man Standing matches, then the feud starts picking up and getting hot and it comes to a head with a regular one on one match? Seems so backwards.
Feels like this could be the way more feuds are going: I beat you in a match with "my stipulations", you beat me with "your stipulations", then we have a straight-up match to settle who the real winner is.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:42 AM   #19
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It's weird that there was no stip added to ADR vs Big Show tonight. Two Last Man Standing matches, then the feud starts picking up and getting hot and it comes to a head with a regular one on one match? Seems so backwards.
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Feels like this could be the way more feuds are going: I beat you in a match with "my stipulations", you beat me with "your stipulations", then we have a straight-up match to settle who the real winner is.
It also makes sense, in that Del Rio won in two matches where trickery can help someone pull off a win against a stronger opponent. Now, he has to win without such tricks.
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Did like Zeb Coulter's speech. By far best part of the night was his promo. Jack Swagger might be my new favorite rassler. Goddamn immigrants!
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Did like Zeb Coulter's speech. By far best part of the night was his promo. Jack Swagger might be my new favorite rassler. Goddamn immigrants!
It was very Republican. I'm waiting for WWE to do a promo that goes like "...So God made a Swagger".
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That clearly was not Vince on the phone. Someone will get Rock DQed, Punk and Heyman celebrate, HHH comes out and restarts the match. Rock wins and faces Cena.

Leads to Brock/Punk vs. HHH/Taker at Mania. And the more I think about it, the better that sounds.

I also like Jericho vs. Ziggler for the WHC, Del Rio vs. Henry, Big Show vs. Ryback, and Sheamus vs. Orton.

Still a lot of people left off... The Shield, Hell No, Barrett, Cesaro, Miz
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That clearly was not Vince on the phone. Someone will get Rock DQed, Punk and Heyman celebrate, HHH comes out and restarts the match. Rock wins and faces Cena.

Leads to Brock/Punk vs. HHH/Taker at Mania. And the more I think about it, the better that sounds.

I also like Jericho vs. Ziggler for the WHC, Del Rio vs. Henry, Big Show vs. Ryback, and Sheamus vs. Orton.

Still a lot of people left off... The Shield, Hell No, Barrett, Cesaro, Miz
It sounded just like Vince....

But regardless, I think Punk wins, Rock invokes rematch clause, boom, triple threat at mania.
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That clearly was not Vince on the phone. Someone will get Rock DQed, Punk and Heyman celebrate, HHH comes out and restarts the match. Rock wins and faces Cena.

Leads to Brock/Punk vs. HHH/Taker at Mania. And the more I think about it, the better that sounds.

I also like Jericho vs. Ziggler for the WHC, Del Rio vs. Henry, Big Show vs. Ryback, and Sheamus vs. Orton.

Still a lot of people left off... The Shield, Hell No, Barrett, Cesaro, Miz
Team Hell No vs The Shield for the tag titles. They'll be able to fit everyone in. Especially if they put MITB back on WM like they planned last year.
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Why would Vince agree to anything that would benefit Paul/Punk?
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Why would Vince agree to anything that would benefit Paul/Punk?
...extremely possible that the storyline arch will focus on Heyman. He DID say that he would do ANYTHING to get that stipulation added...

..but this is why...as they say...we continue to watch the show.
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Hopefully at Elimination Chamber Punk beats The Rock via Cena interference gone wrong when Brock Lesnar interferes. Cena then tells Punk this isn't about the belt anymore, he wants to get rid of Lesnar once and for good! And Lesnar wants his loss avenged making perfect sense. On the other side, you've got Streak vs. Streak- Punk vs. Taker.
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I think Mike Adamle thinks Punk still has the title. He hasn't been paying attention. Which is probably why he thinks Punk-Rock is the best feud in years.
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I think Mike Adamle thinks Punk still has the title. He hasn't been paying attention. Which is probably why he thinks Punk-Rock is the best feud in years.
Well to be fair, Punk/Rock was booked almost to perfection
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I mean... it's a great idea. I wouldn't really praise the booking like there was some genius twists and turns though.
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