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Old 06-01-2013, 12:09 AM   #1
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Todd Helton game tying two run home run in the 9th

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Rafael Betancourt giving up two more runs in the 10th

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Old 06-01-2013, 10:30 AM   #2
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Pirates lost, and I picked them to swipe a wildcard, but damn they've looked impressive. Just hoping they don't blow their wad early like the past two years.
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What to do about "The Curious Case of B.J. Upton"?
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:05 PM   #4
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What to do about "The Curious Case of B.J. Upton"?
They spent a lot of money on him. He's batting, what, .188 or something?
I'd say wait it out...
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Read that Freddy Gonzalez talked to Upton about sending him down. We'll see.

I have zero faith the Pirates will hold. Don't think the offense will improve much unless they make a move, and outside of Burnett, I have.zero faith in their rotation.
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Hammel just got blown up in Baltimore
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:00 PM   #7
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Hammel just got blown up in Baltimore
Can't believe he had the fucking gall to argue the call. Clearly he didn't just accidentally throw an outside breaking ball and happen to hit Tuiasasopo like he and Buck Showalter ridiculously claimed. He was pissed that 3 consecutive of our batters got HR's against him.

I wouldn't even have a problem with the situation had he just left the field, but no, he had to put on a side show for the home crowd. Because of that he should (but likely won't) be fined and suspended by the Commissioner.

Karma bit them on the ass quick enough later in the 4th when Cabbie hit a GS, though.
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Kinda wishing Pineda gets back ASAP.
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Kinda wishing Pineda gets back ASAP.
Even if he does get back soon there is no guarantee of performance from him. Dude has been out so long I simply cannot have faith in him until he proves something
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Old 06-01-2013, 10:44 PM   #13
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Red Sox beat the Yanks 11-1 today. Doubront pitched well and Nava was amazing tonight.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:32 PM   #14
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Sad sight watching Ramon Ortiz blow out his elbow and leave the field crying. Guy is 40 so this was probably it for him.
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#2 rated prospect for the upcoming Rule 4 Draft got busted for a banned substance. Current MLB rules means he won't be punished or suspended but does have to do more testing once he's actually drafted.

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Old 06-03-2013, 11:25 PM   #22
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Chris Davis #1 votes at 1b, Adam Jones #2 in OF behind trout, JJ Hardy #2 (10,000 votes back) at SS behind Andrus. Manny Machado is #2 behind Cabrera at 3b but has 1/2 of his 1.5 million votes.

Would be crazy to see Davis, Jones and Hardy start and Machado as a reserve.
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Chris Davis #1 votes at 1b, Adam Jones #2 in OF behind trout, JJ Hardy #2 (10,000 votes back) at SS behind Andrus. Manny Machado is #2 behind Cabrera at 3b but has 1/2 of his 1.5 million votes.

Would be crazy to see Davis, Jones and Hardy start and Machado as a reserve.
McLouth isn't that far behind either and may be there as a reserve as well.
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Lol white sox. If they lose this one, good luck against Felix and Iwakuma.

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the case is that he isn't very good
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the case is that he isn't very good
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JJ Hardy has a fucking 286 on base. He shouldn't be anywhere near the all star game.

I think the Rox having both Tulo and Cargo healthy and in the same lineup is a huge reason they are at the top of the division.
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JJ Hardy has a fucking 286 on base. He shouldn't be anywhere near the all star game.

I think the Rox having both Tulo and Cargo healthy and in the same lineup is a huge reason they are at the top of the division.
JJ has the 6th best fielding % (5 errors) of al shortstop but he's also played in every single game.
For those geeks out there his war (1.8) is 2nd to peralta's (2.2)
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JJ has the 6th best fielding % (5 errors) of al shortstop but he's also played in every single game.
For those geeks out there his war (1.8) is 2nd to peralta's (2.2)
He's also the ninth worst in the AL in fielding percentage.

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JJ has the 6th best fielding % (5 errors) of al shortstop but he's also played in every single game.
For those geeks out there his war (1.8) is 2nd to peralta's (2.2)
So because he's durable, he should make the all star game, despite being abysmal at the plate? Yeah...

WAR is great, but it's, as Brian Kenny states, an approximation, not a be all end all. Hardy's WAR is where it's at because he's playing a position that is thin on talent league wide and he's slugging over 400, at the moment. If you put Miguel Cabrera back at first base, or keep Trout in left field, their WAR will likely dip because it's easier to find first baseman (Fielder, Votto) and left fielders (Braun, Upton) who put up similar numbers to those two in otherwise historic type seasons. Nice try, though.

Hardy's an automatic out. He doesn't get on base. Because he doesn't get on base, he doesn't give his team a chance to score runs, and because he doesn't give his team a chance to score runs, he's not a particularly good player. His batting average, and more importantly, OBP, is below league average. His OPS is below league average. And, at 30 years old, he's slugging 30 points over his career number, which is league average over the course of his career. You expect a guy who can't spell the word "walk" to continue blindly running into homeruns? I don't, because, logically, it doesn't make any sense.

But then again, your touting a guy who's a below league average player as a leading all star candidate, so making sense must not be your specialty.

Speaking of Downtown Domonic Brown, where the fuck is screech so I can yell "I TOLD YOU SO" at him after a mini convo we had last year where I backed Brown. WHERE YOU AT, SCREECH!!!!
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So because he's durable, he should make the all star game, despite being abysmal at the plate? Yeah...

WAR is great, but it's, as Brian Kenny states, an approximation, not a be all end all. Hardy's WAR is where it's at because he's playing a position that is thin on talent league wide and he's slugging over 400, at the moment. If you put Miguel Cabrera back at first base, or keep Trout in left field, their WAR will likely dip because it's easier to find first baseman (Fielder, Votto) and left fielders (Braun, Upton) who put up similar numbers to those two in otherwise historic type seasons. Nice try, though.

Hardy's an automatic out. He doesn't get on base. Because he doesn't get on base, he doesn't give his team a chance to score runs, and because he doesn't give his team a chance to score runs, he's not a particularly good player. His batting average, and more importantly, OBP, is below league average. His OPS is below league average. And, at 30 years old, he's slugging 30 points over his career number, which is league average over the course of his career. You expect a guy who can't spell the word "walk" to continue blindly running into homeruns? I don't, because, logically, it doesn't make any sense.

But then again, your touting a guy who's a below league average player as a leading all star candidate, so making sense must not be your specialty.

Speaking of Downtown Domonic Brown, where the fuck is screech so I can yell "I TOLD YOU SO" at him after a mini convo we had last year where I backed Brown. WHERE YOU AT, SCREECH!!!!
Yeah, jj not getting on base is totally killing the orioles offense which as it stands now is ranked 1st or 2nd in every offensive category. 12 homers and 30+ rbi for a guy that's been hitting in the 6 or 7 hole most of the season is terrible..he had 30 homers for the O's in 2011 in 129 games...
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Yeah, jj not getting on base is totally killing the orioles offense which as it stands now is ranked 1st or 2nd in every offensive category. 12 homers and 30+ rbi for a guy that's been hitting in the 6 or 7 hole most of the season is terrible..
Way to use what his team is doing as a collective as an argument for him. You're talking about the all star game, where individuals who are at the top of the game at their positions are showcased. Hardy is no where near the best shortstop in the American League. Whatever the Orioles are doing as a unit has zero to do with his case as an all star.

Nor, outside of his homeruns, does he have anything to do with scoring runs because he's not creating situations for them to do that. Throw that RBI shit out of here. McClouth, Machado, Jones, Markakis and Davis have been excellent at getting on base. Any asshole with as many opportunities as Hardy regularly gets could drive in that many runs hitting 6th and 7th. He's hitting 240/308/379 with RISP. He's tallied the RBI because of number of opportunities, not because he's any good.

Getting on base is important. When you get on base, you don't make outs. Outs are bad. Hits and walks are good. How you cannot process that and put it together that Hardy making lots, and lots, and lots of outs does not constitute him being a good player, let alone an all star, is beyond me.

McClouth has been good. Jones, Davis and Machado have been good. Go toot your homer horn for them, because they deserve it. JJ Hardy does not. He's one of their two weakest regulars, i.e., one of their worst starting players. How is that an all star again?
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