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Old 05-02-2004, 07:54 PM   #1
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Don't you find it funny that Stephen Caldwell tried probably harder than anyone aside from Alan Smith in the Leeds team and he is actually contracted to Newcastle and knows he'll be going back there next season?
I didn't see the game to be honest Steve Caldwell is an alright player I would hope he wouldn't be our first choice centre back anytime soon but he's an ok squad player. I think he'l most likely be leaving soon though I think his contract is up at the end of this season.
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i wish our board would be a bit more reckless in signing players like ronaldinho, rather than wasting millions on shite like djemba
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Ronaldinho preferred Barcelona, United matched the bid.

Djemba-Djemba is 22, for ****s sake, give the fellow a chance. He got 22 yellow cards in France last season, you have to respect that.
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Ronaldinho preferred Barcelona, United matched the bid.
Finally, someone else that knows what happened, I said this in the post you made in the Casual Forum Mask, but you ignored it .

The only time Ronaldinho expressed interest in Manchester United was AFTER the Madrid transfer collapsed and BEFORE Barcelona made a bid, I.E when he had no other options.
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Premiership is gay.
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Not as gay as your Mark Henry and Prince Albert fantasies.
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Ronaldinho preferred Barcelona, United matched the bid.

Djemba-Djemba is 22, for ****s sake, give the fellow a chance. He got 22 yellow cards in France last season, you have to respect that.
Actually Peter Kenyon agreed a £26 million deal for him and then the Man United board told him his limit for the transfer was £22 million and to go back and get the deal done at that price. He refused and the deal was pulled. I'm not saying he would have chose United over Barca but that is what happened.

I am trying to like Djemba but I don't see him cutting the mustard at Old Trafford. Hope I'm wrong though.
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Actually Peter Kenyon agreed a £26 million deal for him and then the Man United board told him his limit for the transfer was £22 million and to go back and get the deal done at that price. He refused and the deal was pulled. I'm not saying he would have chose United over Barca but that is what happened.

I am trying to like Djemba but I don't see him cutting the mustard at Old Trafford. Hope I'm wrong though.
Come on now, he is 22 and has spent much of the season injured, or playing for Cameroon in the African Nations.

I like him, he has alot of talent. He is an excellent passer, and a brute.

You can't really blame Solskjaer for a lack of form, it's more a lack of match fitness. He had a pretty serious knee injury. There was talk of him not actually playing this season at all, to allow it to fully recover.
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i'm pretty sure we didn't match the bid. he seemed pretty set on united, he even said he wanted to be the first brazilian in a red shirt after he joined barca.

djemba is... meh, i think we have better ways to spend our money really, than going for potential all the time, cause it rarely ever works out for us.
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Ronaldinho also said he was "dreaming of white" when asked if Real Madrid wanted him. He's a bit of a tart, really. If he was that desperate to go to United, he'd have rejected Barcelona and told PSG he wanted to go to Manchester, thus making any auction pointless.

Djemba-Djemba looks a good player. He is an excellent passer, he just needs a run in the side like anyone else.
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what i've seen of him, he looks pretty shaky at the moment. at 22, he has time on his side i guess. i think kleberson has got a worse rep though, i've been impressed with what i've seen of him so far.
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Old 05-02-2004, 10:58 PM   #12
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/3057925.stm

Man Utd looked to be in pole position to sign the PSG forward, but Graille says the Spanish giants' offer is the superior one.

Asked whether the offer from Old Trafford was insufficient compared to the sum which Barca are prepared to pay, Graille said: "Yes, completely. However nothing has been done yet."
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None of these links are convincing, as you see in the first two, there are no other clubs linked to Ronaldinho at the time, hence why he was keen on Manchester United.

In the last link, it says it was AFTER Real Madrid had withdrawn their bid, and Barca and Chelsea had no confirmed interest in him.

The link in your other post doesn't quote Ronaldinho saying that he would prefer to go to United when Barca were also bidding, it just says you wouldn't cough up the goolash. NEVER in it does it claim Ronaldinho would have preffered to go to you.
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His brief statement of "tengo la mente en blanco," can be translated either as "I have an open mind" or also "I am thinking about white".
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Old 05-02-2004, 11:33 PM   #16
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Real Madrid were linked with the player but have decided not to make a bid, while Barcelona and Chelsea are the other clubs believed to be chasing him.
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Bottom line is, Ronaldinho is a tart, and he touted himself about to alot of clubs. If he really wanted to go to United, he would have. Players have the upper hand. Look at Beckham: he turned down the Barca offer, so United had no option but to take Real Madrid's, the club he actually wanted to go to.

Kleberson has always been pretty highly rated. He played in the World Cup winning squad, so he's got a bigger rep than Djemba-Djemba. I think he is an excellent player, but his form has been poor for club and country, so he needs to sort himself out overall.

Djemba-Djemba has impressed, though. The thing is, he only ever starts when Fergie is putting out a terrible side, so he ends up playing alongside Forlan, Bellion and Phil Neville, and the like, then they lose and he looks stupid.
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I have to say, this season has somewhat tapered off towards the end.

- Arsenal won the title in April
- With 2 weeks to go, Leeds, Wolves and Leicester
- Chelsea are going to take second

The only thing that's still alive really is the battle for 4th place.

For example, just watching Boro yesterday, you could tell they really didn't have anything to play for against Liverpool. Full credit to Pool tho
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YES,Les Ferdinand could stay at Leicester.

I knew he might delay retiring but i thought he'd go back to the premiership or something.
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You know, its kind of sad how the United fans are STILL harping on about Ronaldinho
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Personally i think they have every right too,considering how well he's done at Barcelona and how poor United have been this season(compared to others).

I'm sure they wouldn't go on about him should their season been better,at least in the league and Europe.
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why? he's a world class player and any team that close to getting him would be gutted.
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Ronaldinho on his own wouldn't have stopped Arsenal being unbeaten in 35
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i know, but the run in would've been far more interesting.

Besides, who would you rather watch playing for you, ronaldinho or darren fletcher?
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i know, but the run in would've been far more interesting.

Besides, who would you rather watch playing for you, ronaldinho or darren fletcher?
Give your players SOME credit. Fletcher is 20 and playing in his first full season as a first team player. He is not a wide right player, but he looks a potentially world class central midfielder. That combination of Fletcher and Ronaldo down the right could be dominating Europe for the next 10 years, if they fufill their potential.

Ronaldinho could very well have been exactly like Veron. I watched Veron for years in Serie A, and I genuinely consider him as good a player as Zinedine Zidane, but it didn't work out for him in the Premiership. Ronaldinho wears perfume, any player who does that might find it difficult playing in England.
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Give your players SOME credit. Fletcher is 20 and playing in his first full season as a first team player. He is not a wide right player, but he looks a potentially world class central midfielder. That combination of Fletcher and Ronaldo down the right could be dominating Europe for the next 10 years, if they fufill their potential.

Ronaldinho could very well have been exactly like Veron. I watched Veron for years in Serie A, and I genuinely consider him as good a player as Zinedine Zidane, but it didn't work out for him in the Premiership. Ronaldinho wears perfume, any player who does that might find it difficult playing in England.
I try, but apart from a few players, there's a high level of inconsistancy in the team these days, and our midfield isn't nearly creative enough compared to the teams of old. We don't have enough depth apart from defensive midfielders, where we have far too many. I don't doubt we have a lot of potential in our current backup players, but too many of our recent signings have fallen short of what I think we're capable of. I have a bad feeling too many of our "rough diamonds" or whatever are going to end up like forlan.

For our first team, it's pretty ideal on paper, but throw in a few injuries here and then, and our backup players aren't up to the standard that I think we need. I'm not saying they're all shite, just that we should have better.
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Nah, seriously, Ronaldinho or no, United's season fell apart pretty much right when Ferdinand got suspended.

Fletcher wouldn't have had more than 10 games this season if Solskjaer hadn't been crocked...I dunno, you could argue they'd have been just as effective if Solskjaer had stayed fit, since he was really fitting into the wide right role.

Anyway, cry about it
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Nah, seriously, Ronaldinho or no, United's season fell apart pretty much right when Ferdinand got suspended.

Fletcher wouldn't have had more than 10 games this season if Solskjaer hadn't been crocked...I dunno, you could argue they'd have been just as effective if Solskjaer had stayed fit, since he was really fitting into the wide right role.

Anyway, cry about it
In every game he played on the right this season, Solskjaer has shown none of the form that kept Beckham out of the team last year. Fletcher has looked impressive at times but definately needs a good run in the team. I swear him and McFadden are the only thing keeping Scotland from sitting alongside the San Marino's of the world right now (actually Canero looked good last week so him too).
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solskjaer hasn't been that great on the right. He has no real qualities that make him stick out as a winger.

I don't think we'd have won this season, ronaldinho or not, but we'd have had a lot less 1-0 defeats.
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I don't think we'd have won this season, ronaldinho or not, but we'd have had a lot less 1-0 defeats.
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Anyone else watch Soccer Saturday?

Rodney Marsh and (I THINK) Frank Mcanalli (sp?) were having an arguement about who is bigger out of Everton and Man City, and Rodney Marsh was sticking up for City, saying Everton aren't, and he said 'Lets see what happens today when Wolves Play Everton, any half decent team will beat Wolves at the Molineux' and Mcanalli didn't even mention the fact Man United lost there, what an idiot.
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Rodney Marsh and (I THINK) Frank Mcanalli (sp?) were having an arguement about who is bigger out of Everton and Man City, and Rodney Marsh was sticking up for City, saying Everton aren't, and he said 'Lets see what happens today when Wolves Play Everton, any half decent team will beat Wolves at the Molineux' and Mcanalli didn't even mention the fact Man United lost there, what an idiot.
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Anyways, Marsh is a proven moron.
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I think Ronaldinho is better as a support striker anyway,so even they got him they should have still been playing Fletcher or signing Cristiano Ronaldo,or at least they should imo.
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Absoloutly off subject here but I only live like a 10 minute walk from the Molineux

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