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Old 11-12-2015, 11:40 PM   #1
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The Rock was over, you dumb fuck. Bray Wyatt has lost to everyone and anyone he's faced INCLUDING THE FUCKING UNDERTAKER NOT EVEN A YEAR AGO and they spent all of 1 week actually trying to make it look like he was a threat before this EPIC SHOWDOWN PLZ BE INTERESTED PLZ!
Lol way to change the point.

Smart move when you have no argument.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:45 PM   #2
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:11 PM   #3
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Just have Wyatt do the Taker sit up in the match at SS and start laughing like he had their powers all along and was just making them think he was weak to make them vulnerable.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:49 PM   #4
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Don't know how he changed the point but its funny you think getting a beer bath and taking a stunner is the same as 2 old guys beating up 4 Wyatt's.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:01 AM   #5
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Don't know how he changed the point but its funny you think getting a beer bath and taking a stunner is the same as 2 old guys beating up 4 Wyatt's.
The guy said lolWWE because they had the faces lay out the heels two weeks prior to the PPV. My point is that happens ALL THE TIME. And it's even happened ONE WEEK before a fairly major PPV. So nothing is lost by that booking decision as prior history has shown.

The guy reads that and pivots off the topic about faces laying out heels before a PPV and then just starts swearing because he's been gotten to and has no coherent response.

Now you talk about how the program itself is stupid because Taker and Kane are old guys. Well tough to argue that point. They are in fact older guys. The old guys managed to get the biggest pop of the night, but who cares, right?
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:27 AM   #6
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The guy said lolWWE because they had the faces lay out the heels two weeks prior to the PPV. My point is that happens ALL THE TIME. And it's even happened ONE WEEK before a fairly major PPV. So nothing is lost by that booking decision as prior history has shown.

The guy reads that and pivots off the topic about faces laying out heels before a PPV and then just starts swearing because he's been gotten to and has no coherent response.

Now you talk about how the program itself is stupid because Taker and Kane are old guys. Well tough to argue that point. They are in fact older guys. The old guys managed to get the biggest pop of the night, but who cares, right?
Even if they were young it'd still be dumb. I mean at Survivor Series they onky face 2 Wyatts. But they beat the 4 of them easy on Raw.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:06 PM   #7
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Even if they were young it'd still be dumb. I mean at Survivor Series they onky face 2 Wyatts. But they beat the 4 of them easy on Raw.
Did they have a match?
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:42 AM   #8
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It's one of CyNick's tactics when he can't think of a way out of a silly argument he tried to make. Say something like "lol You changed the point" even though it makes no sense whatsoever and then sit back and feel like he actually got one up or something. lol The guy's resorted to reaching with "faith in McMahon" and conspiracy theories in other threads when he's run out of ways to defend things. This is kinda par for the course at this point.
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It's one of CyNick's tactics when he can't think of a way out of a silly argument he tried to make. Say something like "lol You changed the point" even though it makes no sense whatsoever and then sit back and feel like he actually got one up or something. lol The guy's resorted to reaching with "faith in McMahon" and conspiracy theories in other threads when he's run out of ways to defend things. This is kinda par for the course at this point.
That's literally what you did. Keep swinging though. You'll hit one eventually
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That's literally what you did. Keep swinging though. You'll hit one eventually
Actually, I said it was dumb in this situation. I literally reference that exact situation and not the vague "So heels shouldn't get one up on faces before a big match?" strawman (You like making me use that word, don't you?) you tried afterward. (That post is right there on the top of the page. For the literate to read.)

You responded by comparing it to Rock-Austin 2 weeks before WrestleMania. (Right there. To read. On this page.)

Then I said no. It's not comparable because in one situation you had to over guys going back and forth and in another you're trying to build up a glorified jobber as competition to a legend and spent all of 1 week making it look like the glorified jobber actually had a chance. (Look up. Right there.)

Then you accused me of changing the subject, presumably because you have the mental capacity of WWE's target audience. Which explains a lot.

Just because you like to randomly assert "you're changing the subject" to avoid having to come up with a new excuse for WWE's retarded writing doesn't make the actual posts that are right there on the page for everyone to see go away. You're better off just shutting up, backing out of the topic and hoping it gets buried on the 2nd page so you don't have to worry about trying to pull an explanation out of your ass like you usually do when you're backed into a corner.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:09 PM   #11
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Actually, I said it was dumb in this situation. I literally reference that exact situation and not the vague "So heels shouldn't get one up on faces before a big match?" strawman (You like making me use that word, don't you?) you tried afterward. (That post is right there on the top of the page. For the literate to read.)

You responded by comparing it to Rock-Austin 2 weeks before WrestleMania. (Right there. To read. On this page.)

Then I said no. It's not comparable because in one situation you had to over guys going back and forth and in another you're trying to build up a glorified jobber as competition to a legend and spent all of 1 week making it look like the glorified jobber actually had a chance. (Look up. Right there.)

Then you accused me of changing the subject, presumably because you have the mental capacity of WWE's target audience. Which explains a lot.

Just because you like to randomly assert "you're changing the subject" to avoid having to come up with a new excuse for WWE's retarded writing doesn't make the actual posts that are right there on the page for everyone to see go away. You're better off just shutting up, backing out of the topic and hoping it gets buried on the 2nd page so you don't have to worry about trying to pull an explanation out of your ass like you usually do when you're backed into a corner.
This glorified jobber has lost to Cena, Taker, and Reigns.

Don't worry I won't point out how rediculous it is to call that guy a glorified jobber.

You really make me laugh. I swear when I read these types of posts its like watching a kid ride a bike without training wheels for the first time. You can see he sorta knows what to do, but he's still out of his league.
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This glorified jobber has lost to Cena, Taker, and Reigns.

Don't worry I won't point out how rediculous it is to call that guy a glorified jobber.

You really make me laugh. I swear when I read these types of posts its like watching a kid ride a bike without training wheels for the first time. You can see he sorta knows what to do, but he's still out of his league.
I try not to use someone's spelling or grammar as a point in an argument, but anyone who uses "rediculous" immediately pisses on their own foot and betrays their lack of intelligence.
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Why do you guys bother with CyNick anymore? It is like talking to Kane Knight.
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I liked arguing with Kane Knight. It was like training for real discussions with actual people.
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He's got an opinion, I got an opinion. I get a laugh out his, he gets a laugh out of mine. win win. Wasn't around for this Kane Knight so I wouldn't know.
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This glorified jobber has lost to Cena, Taker, and Reigns.
... You... YOU JUST LISTED A BUNCH OF GUYS HE JOBBED TO TO EXPLAIN WHY HE'S NOT A GLORIFIED JOBBER!

You also conveniently ignored how insanely retarded "he changed the subject" was.

How do you even try to claim to be a real person anymore!?!?!

Can't even find a Cornette face to express how "derp" this guy has gotten. Someone help me out, please.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:39 PM   #20
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... You... YOU JUST LISTED A BUNCH OF GUYS HE JOBBED TO TO EXPLAIN WHY HE'S NOT A GLORIFIED JOBBER!

You also conveniently ignored how insanely retarded "he changed the subject" was.

How do you even try to claim to be a real person anymore!?!?!

Can't even find a Cornette face to express how "derp" this guy has gotten. Someone help me out, please.
If you think he's a jobber you don't understand how to use the term. Your whole premise now appears to be that Bray is fragile and needs to look strong. But you clearly don't know the history of the character and how much he's been protected since he debuted.

But keep ignoring the reality. Maybe you can post the Cornette face you use to jack off on.
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I concur. CyNick is only worthy of Curtis Axel faces from here on out. That's how low the bar is now.
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Yeah. Cornette is too good for you. You've been downgraded to Axel faces. When you become known for strawmen, blatantly avoiding things like the plague and out and out bullshit like "But Bray's been protected so much!" I think Axel faces might even be too good.
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Also find it funny the CyNick mentioned the crowd pop at Raw on a taped show that had cheers dubbed in.
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Also find it funny the CyNick mentioned the crowd pop at Raw on a taped show that had cheers dubbed in.
Live reports said the crowd was going crazy for the Taker-Kane segment. Actually it was form the UK, so I believe the word used was "mental"
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It is not a huge stretch of belief to think that Taker/Kane would get a huge pop. Probably did not need editing at all.
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The crowd were legitimately hot for Taker and Kane, you could tell. Doesn't mean they needed to do it that way.
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It might have been more beneficial to have one of the Wyatt Family members turn face on RAW -- giving Wyatt a reason to be caught off-guard -- and build to a 3 vs. 3 match at Survivor Series. Just spit-balling here.

Luke Harper would have been my pick. He's got the most ring skill and star potential on his own. Rowan and Strowman need the Family at this point.
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It might have been more beneficial to have one of the Wyatt Family members turn face on RAW -- giving Wyatt a reason to be caught off-guard -- and build to a 3 vs. 3 match at Survivor Series. Just spit-balling here.

Luke Harper would have been my pick. He's got the most ring skill and star potential on his own. Rowan and Strowman need the Family at this point.
That would have been great. Would have explained how Taker and Kane got away and evened up the odds for a match at Survivor Series. Could still happen when Bray announces who will face Taker and Kane though.
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I guess the thinking behind what they did on RAW is this:

* The Undertaker is in England, the crowd will go bonkers.

* Taker will sell Survivor Series on his own.

* The Wyatt Family can say they were surprised and people will buy it.

* It's Taker, guys.

I don't think what they did is going to kill the program dead. I mean, the stuff with the soul-absorbing was hard to come back from in a few weeks anyway. But at a time where the WWE is hurting for stars, blowing the heat off here when it could have been coupled with the tournament finals as a major selling point to Survivor Series has left everything feel sterile.

I guess this is the Network era though, and the WWE don't really need to sell PPVs like they used to.
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I'm now actually thinking that it might be an interesting move to turn Braun Strowman face. I'm not sold on the guy, and I'm not sure just how great his chops are, but there's still something "off" about his presence within The Wyatt Family. Erick Rowan turning face was done and didn't really garner any momentum, and Luke Harper is such an integral part of the ring work for the group. Strowman, on the other hand, seems to jar up their dynamic with the constant soft-footing around him.

At Survivor Series, have the team be Strowman & Harper against The Undertaker & Kane. Taker wins the match with a Tombstone on Harper and on RAW, Bray Wyatt is disappointed with his family. They point the finger at Strowman, with it being stated that there's a reason he's "The Black Sheep." They beat him down, with Strowman showing some fire back, but he eventually gets stopped and hit with Sister Abigail.

The next week, Strowman vows revenge against Bray Wyatt, with the one thing he learnt from The Family being his true potential as a monster. He wants to pledge his allegiance to The Brothers of Destruction, so that they can go against The Wyatt Family at TLC. Strowman, Taker & Kane go over there, and Wyatt sets his sights on the Royal Rumble and his "absolution." Braun doesn't get into the Rumble Match, instead fighting Harper in some sort of brawl earlier in the show. Strowman wins that match (with Harper leading him through it), and Wyatt and Rowan work the Rumble and have a good time tossing out mid-carders. Cue Strowman coming out, fighting Rowan and Wyatt, tossing both over even though he's not in the Rumble Match.

It might suck, but it might also entertain the kiddies who start seeing Strowman as the monster they can cheer. Slightly tweak his look and give him cool music. You're not looking to put the title on him anytime soon or anything, but Wyatt, Harper & Rowan vs. Strowman & Kane, or something, could be an undercard match at WrestleMania, if you've got Undertaker and Cena fighting higher up.
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I'm now actually thinking that it might be an interesting move to turn Braun Strowman face. I'm not sold on the guy, and I'm not sure just how great his chops are, but there's still something "off" about his presence within The Wyatt Family. Erick Rowan turning face was done and didn't really garner any momentum, and Luke Harper is such an integral part of the ring work for the group. Strowman, on the other hand, seems to jar up their dynamic with the constant soft-footing around him.

At Survivor Series, have the team be Strowman & Harper against The Undertaker & Kane. Taker wins the match with a Tombstone on Harper and on RAW, Bray Wyatt is disappointed with his family. They point the finger at Strowman, with it being stated that there's a reason he's "The Black Sheep." They beat him down, with Strowman showing some fire back, but he eventually gets stopped and hit with Sister Abigail.

The next week, Strowman vows revenge against Bray Wyatt, with the one thing he learnt from The Family being his true potential as a monster. He wants to pledge his allegiance to The Brothers of Destruction, so that they can go against The Wyatt Family at TLC. Strowman, Taker & Kane go over there, and Wyatt sets his sights on the Royal Rumble and his "absolution." Braun doesn't get into the Rumble Match, instead fighting Harper in some sort of brawl earlier in the show. Strowman wins that match (with Harper leading him through it), and Wyatt and Rowan work the Rumble and have a good time tossing out mid-carders. Cue Strowman coming out, fighting Rowan and Wyatt, tossing both over even though he's not in the Rumble Match.

It might suck, but it might also entertain the kiddies who start seeing Strowman as the monster they can cheer. Slightly tweak his look and give him cool music. You're not looking to put the title on him anytime soon or anything, but Wyatt, Harper & Rowan vs. Strowman & Kane, or something, could be an undercard match at WrestleMania, if you've got Undertaker and Cena fighting higher up.
I love you Noid but no. The Family get buried enough. You might as well as disband The Family at that point.
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Noid, I'm nearly always on board with you. But not this time.

Strowman is not established or interesting enough right now. He's also very, very green. And a face turn only weeks after his debut will set him on the path to the Big Show/Kane/Henry style constant rotating turns.
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