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Old 04-03-2017, 02:38 AM   #1
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Old 04-03-2017, 02:36 AM   #2
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By the way, if Reigns beating Taker in the main event of a WrestleMania wasn't enough evidence of WWE just trolling the fans by pushing everything they hate down their throat.... Everyone actually fell in love with a Vince McMahon dream in Braun Strowman. It was great. So they put him in a battle royal, made him the clear favorite, and then eliminated him early and had the winner be a low-card guy whose only claim to fame is being hated within the IWC. COME ON....
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Smiley face made it seem like you had a hot threesome. Would have made this whole thing worthwhile.
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Old 04-03-2017, 02:44 AM   #4
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Smiley face made it seem like you had a hot threesome. Would have made this whole thing worthwhile.
That would have been a , not a .
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Oh, also - while walking back to my hotel after the PPV, some dudes in a car were blasting Bobby Roode's theme song, and I sang along with them while doing Roode poses. I think that was my second-favorite moment of the night (after the Hardys, of course).
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What a performance by Goldberg.
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What a performance by Goldberg.
Your BFF did really good. I wasn't expecting anything from that match and absolutely loved the entire 5 minutes of it.
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I am glad you had an amazing time! I had a feeling you would.
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Old 04-03-2017, 03:02 AM   #9
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I am glad you had an amazing time! I had a feeling you would.
Thanks again for the Takeover ticket.
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Old 04-03-2017, 02:58 AM   #11
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Give Roman a few years and he will be 'larger than life' too most likely
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Yeah, Cena and Brock still have the "larger than life" vibe.

I don't know about Triple H.

And forget about the main roster.

The future is bleak.
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Old 04-03-2017, 04:07 PM   #13
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Yeah, Cena and Brock still have the "larger than life" vibe.

I don't know about Triple H.

And forget about the main roster.

The future is bleak.
Gets worse in about 2 years if the sheets are correct since it might be just Triple H by then.

Next year is hinted to be Lesnar's retirement match and then the following year being Cena's with Reigns hinted as the opponent for both.
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Old 04-03-2017, 03:10 AM   #14
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Old 04-03-2017, 03:42 AM   #18
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Misses mania due to lost info but I saw on Facebook the hardy are back so does this mean no broken Matt and brother Nero?
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How did the Bray Wyatt maggot magic come off live?
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:20 AM   #20
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How did the Bray Wyatt maggot magic come off live?
During those parts, the overhead ring view was shown on the screens, so I presume it came across live as well as it did on the broadcast.
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Thought it was a good mania, though the event was too long.

I have no idea what the point of Randy Orton winning was. Every time Bray gets a little closer they do something stupid. He should have walked into Mania as champ and left Mania as champ.
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This was an awesome Mania, like really, really enjoyable. There will always be things to pick out that weren't great etc... But i was thoroughly entertained the whole way through.

Aries/Neville - Right guy won, it was a good match and there is still mileage in the feud.

Battle Royal - Big negative on Strowman, but who really cares? It's throwaway and meaningless.

Corbin/Ambrose - Neglected feud shoved in preshow. Prob the right decision.

AJ/Shane - It was entertaining and the right guy won. Hoping AJ returns to world title contention now.

Jericho/Owens - Should have been so much more, disappointing to me, but was a fine match for what it was. I think this deserved more attention

Raw Women - It was fine too. Charlotte is so good, and this has done Bayley a massive favor and legitimised her. Nia was protected too, all good!

Tag Titles - Brilliant surprise and swerve from New Day. Totally marked out here and took me back 15 years. Absolutely loved it.

Miz/Maryse vs Cena/Nikki - hate that Miz lost, but proposal was a big deal and a nice moment. Ladies seemed to love it and it served its purpose. Hard to say that wrong guy won with the proposal.

HHH/Rollins - Hunters entrances are hilarious. Rollins is the right guy winning again. Main card has all right guys winning up to this point. It was well documented he was injured and not only did they cover it well, but HHH/Stephanie put him over huge with her comeuppance and a clean win. Brilliant stuff

Wyatt/Orton - Only match i would say they definitely got wrong. Wyatt looks incredibly stupid and changes of him becoming a special attraction in his own right are all but gone. He has a streak alright, but the opposite of what was needed.

Brock/Lesnar - This couldn't have been more perfect. Superman/Zod was a great call from Graves. This was two superhuman guys just exploding and this feud has made both of them look amazing in the end. I doubted it so much, but great story, well told. Brilliant stuff again.

Smackdown women - Too short, but again, right girl won. I think she is unique, extremely athletic and brings qualities that the other girls don't. Great stuff for Naomi and the right winner once again.

Reigns/Taker - Beautiful and emotional end for one of the greatest of all time. An all time great Mania moment if he sticks to it. The fact that he wasn't good enough was a theme (both on purpose and by accident) of the match and it feels like he has gone on a match too long and paid for it.

My only gripe is that Reigns is now THE star of the company and he is not good enough. He is athletic, but thats it. Here, he was going up against a performer, capable of nuanced reactions, timing and just the correct measure of emotion at certain moments. Undertaker has been so successful because he is such a great performer.

Reigns is not. He is an athlete with no charisma and no real connection to the crowd. He doesn't know how to work them and his reactions and facials seem forced and the timing is completely off. It has denied Taker what HBK and Flair had before him - a performer fitting enough to create that match and that moment together with him.

People will talk about his merchandise sales, but i think wwefan hit the nail on the head when he said, kids will like anything that is presented to them in a strong way. He is the "best" and wins all the time, so buy his shirt.

It is sad because it means that he may never have the need to learn from guys like HBK and Taker on how to become a better performer, capable of bringing the crowd into the match and making them feel something. I think the company are doing him a disservice too by forcing the issue. The fact he has retired a truly great personality is ironic and sad at the same time.


In spite of that though, it is still the best Mania I have seen in a long time with so many good decisions and cool moments. It was fantastically entertaining and they deserve the plaudits that come with it. Big thumbs up from me.
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Random predictions for this week's TV. Some are pretty obvious with a few "out there".

Raw
-Finn Balor returns
-Sasha turns heel to set up Bayley's next program
-Emma returns only to announce that she's going to SmackDown
-DIY debut in a cruiserweight segment and work a tag match against Daivari/Dar or Nese/Gulak
-The Hardys will get another huge pop and will play to the DELETE chants, but they won't cut a promo unless they're keeping the Broken characters as this is the type of crowd that will immediately turn on them for talking normally
-Hardys/Club and Owens/Jericho feuds continue to the next PPV as per the tradition of holding rematches
-Kurt Angle is named new GM

SmackDown
-Much like Raw, the Orton/Wyatt and Bliss/Naomi programs carry on for rematches at the next PPV
-The Revival debut and attack both The Usos and American Alpha, coming across as badass tweeners
-Tye Dillinger debuts against Dolph Ziggler
-Emma coming to SmackDown COMING SOON
-Nakamura knees Miz in the face to close the show
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Random trivia that I'm totally not ashamed of knowing: Brock Lesnar is the first person to ever defeat Goldberg clean.

This doesn't include any non-televised losses, especially before his main WCW debut, as I have no knowledge of any of these and can only go by on-air matches.
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Random trivia that I'm totally not ashamed of knowing: Brock Lesnar is the first person to ever defeat Goldberg clean.

This doesn't include any non-televised losses, especially before his main WCW debut, as I have no knowledge of any of these and can only go by on-air matches.
Goldberg never lost off-air.
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Didn't they have a snapchat promo where they were saying "DELETE" and "OBSOLETE" after winning?
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Didn't they have a snapchat promo where they were saying "DELETE" and "OBSOLETE" after winning?
Yup, that's why I upped my estimate to 3 weeks instead of tonight.
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Orton/Wyatt match was pretty boring. The whole maggots thing was quite interesting and came off well on TV, but the ending was very lackluster and "out of nowhere" no pun intended. But not in a surprising way, either.
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I honestly think they've given up on trying to make Mania a "great" show in how us smarky little fuckers define a great show.

Now it's a chance to fill a huge fucking stadium, do a marathon show, get lots of publicity and give everyone possible a payday. It's the experience, not the actual delivery.

I don't like it but be that as it may it is what it is.
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Old 04-04-2017, 05:38 AM   #31
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*Bear in mind I live in the U.K. so my falling asleep isn't necessarily indicative of the quality of the show*

Biggest criticism is the same criticism I'd throw at WWE in general; their belief that quantity is better, or equal, to quality.

A 2 hour pre-show followed by a 5+ hour show is insane. I didn't watch in one go.

The Cruiser match was a great little opener. Both guys looked great, and probably the right result. Though I'm not sure what's next for Neville now.

Battle Royal was there. Surprised by the Show, and Strowman eliminations being so early. Really not a fan of Rawley. Didn't see the point if having Dane or Bian in there.

I must have fallen asleep here as it wasn't until watching the main show the next day that I realised they'd moved the IC match. Haven't gone back to watch it, have no inclination to do so. Surprised Corbin lost, off to Raw?

Styles/Shane opening the show was a surprise and the match was much better than it had any right to be. Glad Styles got the win. Would make sense for him to go to Raw.

Again surprised they followed with Jericho/Owens. Another good one. At this point I started to think that this Mania might over-deliver. Should have been later in the show. That bit with the rope break, amazing.

Really wasn't enthused by Orton/Wyatt, skipped it. Read on here about the weirdness, went back saw a bit of weirdness, skipped forward again. Wyatt needs to go away for a while before emerging as a real threat. Really don't get the booking here.

I looked to the heavens when I realised they were doing the full Goldberg entrance including backstage walk, Jesus! Great match making the most of what they have. Does feel like a weird end for Goldberg if he just disappears.

Both SD/Raw women's matches failed to hold my attention. I'd been convinced on here that the SD wasn't a 6 Pack Challenge so the chance of a surprise was on the table...until the match intro. The Raw match for me suffered from seeing the same 4 women compete a million times in the last 8 months.

Cena/Miz stuff was fine for what it was. Kinda pleased the crowd didn't shit all over the proposal (unless they did at the audio was cut?)

The Tag Ladder match was good. Surprised they brought back the Hardy's on this show (even if they're not broken). Speaking of broken; holy shit Cesaro must have been hurt on the Swanton.

HHH/Rollins went on too long. Far too long and far too plodding. Pleased that Rollins went over but there might have been more story in a loss here. Props to Steph for that table bump.

I had to retire during the Main Event. Carried on watching in bed but fell asleep. Should probably go back to rewatch but it doesn't sound all that compelling (and with another 5 hrs to watch Monday/Tuesday) it can probably wait.

Unless I missed it, no legend skit/surprise appearance? No Hogan, Rock, Austin, HBK (outside of the pre show panel), etc.
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Forgot that I skipped the Wyatt match. Glad to see I missed very little.
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I really enjoyed this show. It wasn't perfect, and a didn't like some of the results, but I was entertained throughout.

Even if it was too goddamn long, I had fun.
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Going to have to watch the preshow matches, Styles / Shane and maybe Rollins / HHH today because I missed them due to being late to our Wrestlemania showing
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My quick thoughts on Mania:

Pretty much like what others said, maybe C+ B range. I don't think it was superb, but wasn't horrible either.

-Styles/Shane was better than I thought and hands down made my MOTN after a second watch.
-Owens/Jericho should have had more impact and higher on the card.
-Glad Lesnar/Goldberg was longer than the previous match, that's about it.
-Roman/Taker honestly wasn't that bad outside of the 2 major botches.
-HHH/Rollins was a solid effort, nothing special, but nothing horrible
-Raw Women's match seemed more like a TV Raw match than a WM match.
-SD Women's match was crap. Honestly, WTF? They made so much progress with the women over the last 2 years and it had the looks of a Divas match from 5 yrs ago.
-Tag Ladder Match was pretty good. Nice return of the Hardys, though would have rather seen them return tonight or not win the match last night. I'm sure the latter was a stip in their new nice money contract.
-Orton/Wyatt was below average compared to what it could have been. Harper should have been added to it.
-Cena match was completely pointless after the hype. They should have kayfabe'd the whole thing. Had Nikki say no, turn on Cena, join a stable with Miz & Maryse, then have Nikki "realize her mistake" down the road and then do the marriage thing. This is wrestling guys, keep that personal life stuff out of the ring. Doesn't work these days.
-Battle Royal sucked. Don't do it anymore
-Ambrose/Corbin was flat for most, but completely surprise Ambrose retained.
-Cruisers was solid, but nothing I would say impressed me.

So like I said, okay, not great, not horrible. Much better than last year. I couldn't even remember the main event from last year. Had to look it up, that's how much of an impact it had on me.
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I still wanna know why Samoa Joe was not at WM and why Sasha Banks too the cart down the ramp
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Where would you have placed Joe?
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at very least, the Battle Royal

But since Reigns isnt suppose to get the belt for a while, why not set up the Samoan vs Samoan feud?
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Meltzer was already on about the attendance, considering the obscene size of the stage 75k was obviously a bs number.
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