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Old 04-03-2017, 11:45 PM   #1
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I would suggest "Dark One 4 KotF"
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:45 PM   #2
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Either WWE is going to wait too long to pull the trigger on the Broken gimmick or they really are that afraid of legal threats from Impact. Supposedly Matt owns full legal rights to the gimmick and not Impact.
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:46 PM   #3
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Either WWE is going to wait too long to pull the trigger on the Broken gimmick or they really are that afraid of legal threats from Impact. Supposedly Matt owns full rights to the gimmick and not Impact.
I really think they're testing the waters first. The subtle gestures, the social media stuff, etc.

Assuming Anthem doesn't try to draw a line in the sand, I could see them doing it more bluntly.
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I really think they're testing the waters first. The subtle gestures, the social media stuff, etc.

Assuming Anthem doesn't try to draw a line in the sand, I could see them doing it more bluntly.
There's an idea...let WWE kinda sorta rip off the Hardy's stuff they created and Impact gets to kinda sorta rip off Evolution...
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Hardys definitely took a dip in the Lake of Reincarnation for their WWE run.
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Maybe if the chants persist they'll gradually "break" again - or at least Matt will because they probably see more money in Jeff being 2008/9 era Jeff. But it seems clear early on that the focus is cashing in on them as a nostalgia run and since their broken run happened in TNA, it may as well have never happened.

I'm sure they had them on Raw Talk instead of doing an actual promo on Raw because this particular crowd would've turned the second they realized they were "normal".
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Maybe if the chants persist they'll gradually "break" again - or at least Matt will because they probably see more money in Jeff being 2008/9 era Jeff. But it seems clear early on that the focus is cashing in on them as a nostalgia run and since their broken run happened in TNA, it may as well have never happened.
Makes sense since although clearly the Broken run had more of a reasch than anything else TNA has ever done, there's still going to be more casual fans that have no idea why the crowd are chanting what they've been chanting.

They may wait until they split them up and have Matt go full broken after that since they'll probably want Jeff near the top of the card again and Matt might get over enough to do the same on the other brand. Either way, it's a bummer for now, but there's enough broken in there to course correct later on.
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Makes sense since although clearly the Broken run had more of a reasch than anything else TNA has ever done, there's still going to be more casual fans that have no idea why the crowd are chanting what they've been chanting.

They may wait until they split them up and have Matt go full broken after that since they'll probably want Jeff near the top of the card again and Matt might get over enough to do the same on the other brand. Either way, it's a bummer for now, but there's enough broken in there to course correct later on.
I imagine Matt's going to continue to play off the chants and maybe work in a "Wonderful!" or something into promos but yeah, it's all about nostalgia and pushing some merch right now, a Broken run will need to wait.

Jeff can stay himself and probably be just fine as he'll stay over via doing crazy stuff in the ring and I'm pretty sure he's still gonna get loads of girls screaming in the crowd anytime he takes his shirt off. As fun as it would be for him to become Brother Nero-like, I can see why WWE would keep him the way most fans last remembered him.

But I'd think/hope WWE realize that once they're solo, Matt needs to do something outside the box to stay interesting as a singles character.

I don't think there'd be much argument that V1 was Matt's most entertaining run as a solo act in WWE. He got huge pops when he first showed up and attacked Edge but once that feud ended he was just...there for four years without doing too much interesting. Meanwhile his first ROH and of course the Broken TNA run were all great because he was allowed to just be over the top and ridiculous.
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:57 PM   #11
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Leave him alone, dude. He was excited to be invited into the ring. Of course he would be, he's a kid. Let him enjoy the moment in the limelight for a few minutes...yeesh.
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Leave him alone, dude. He was excited to be invited into the ring. Of course he would be, he's a kid. Let him enjoy the moment in the limelight for a few minutes...yeesh.
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The Superstar Shakeup will be "trades" and not a draft... http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/wwe-raw...erstar-shakeup

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Mr. McMahon also announced he has already conferred with lead representatives from Raw and SmackDown LIVE in advance of the shake-up that will take place for both brands. That includes the newly named Raw General Manager, WWE Hall of Famer Kurt Angle, as well as SmackDown General Manager Daniel Bryan, who are already in ongoing discussions with each other regarding next week's anticipated Superstar movement, WWE.com has confirmed.

The WWE Chairman will be granting both sides an opportunity to make trades, deals and other moves that they feel fit, according to WWE.com sources.
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Here's to hoping The Owl shows up to next week's Superstar Shakeup and trades the rights to #BROKEN for the right to Cody Rhodes' last name.
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Hope SmackDown still has a hot crowd tomorrow especially if there are more debuts.

Usually the Brits fly back on Tuesday rather than staying the extra day but that was before SmackDown was important.
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Hope SmackDown still has a hot crowd tomorrow especially if there are more debuts.

Usually the Brits fly back on Tuesday rather than staying the extra day but that was before SmackDown was important.
The travel packages included Smackdown this time when they haven't before, so they might.
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Smackdown isn't even in Orlando no chance the crowd is like raw

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Meh. Wake me up when these fuckers break again.
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Meh. Wake me up when these fuckers break again.
Matt's been favouriting a lot of Tweets saying he'll be broken again by summerslam.
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Maybe the completion of the Expedition of Gold cured their brokenness but their are still remnants of it and they could be broken again.
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They will just do their own broken storyline on WWE so everyone knows what is going on.
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Maybe Goldberg's son can take over the broken gimmick after that bump he took.
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Odds that Smackdown gets raided with next week's trade episode likely shot up more now that this week's RAW numbers got released.

Higher than last week but that pretty much is the end of favorable comparisons. Couldn't reach 4 million, down 320k compared to last year, down 1.6 million compared to 2015, and only 140k better than the previous best week so far this year.
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AJs gone to Raw, easy. I assume Charlotte and New Day to Smackdown and they're good moved. Kind of hope Sami moves too.
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AJ and Boring Corbin to Raw. New Day and Reigns to Smackdown.
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• Three minutes of constant Undertaker chants followed by five minutes of boos and general anti-Reigns chants was quite something.

I'm also going to assume that by saying that "non-traditional WWE fans" were in attendance that they meant "A lot of smarks are here tonight and the majority of them are British".

• The "Delete" chant has got to be one of the most annoying chants in wrestling. It ranks up there with the "What?" chant, the "This is/We are awesome" chant, the "TEN!" chant during a referee's ten-count and the "Olé Olé Olé Olé" chant for Zayn.

I was really just wanting the crowd to shut the fuck up.

• The whole beach ball thing during the Cruiserweight match was funny but not funny.

• We all knew it was going to happen but Teddy Long coming out was a nice "faux-swerve". I really hope Kurt Angle as Raw GM is a success and adding that with this "Superstar Shake-up" next week that Raw can really recover from the "Foley Term" which was just dire.

I don't know if I should look forward to next week or fear it, as SmackDown and its roster is pretty great just the way it is and any changes has the chance of ruining all that, but on the other side of things, Raw really needs some help and Kurt Angle as GM is a great start.

• This is my introduction to The Revival. From what I saw, they were "meh".

• With what looks like a Charlotte/Jax thing going on and Emma debuting, I can only assume that she'll be chasing the title from Bayley.

Either that or Sasha Banks turns on Bayley and chases the title or someone from SmackDown chases the title after they're drafted while we get Emma and Sasha trading wins with each other.

I have a small feeling that Dana will be going to SmackDown.

• I was expecting Angle to add a new "I" to his "Three I's" when he was talking to Zayn and that it would be "Irritating".

Jinder Mahal though. What a guy. He really should have won at WrestleMania.

• Strowman coming out when Lesnar was in the ring was a nice surprise. I really wasn't expecting him. Seeing them face to face and thinking about the two of them facing each other, really made me want to see some Strowman vs Lesnar.

It really didn't help Strowman that they had him be a pussy yet again.

• I was so happy that Cesaro & Sheamus won. Enzo & Cass have really passed their expiration date and Enzo is just straight up annoying now and he's really holding Cass back.

I really wouldn't mind seeing them split up next week with Cass going to SmackDown to flourish and Enzo remaining on Raw to either be a heel manager or a heel in the Cruiserweight divsion.

The division needs more faces and Enzo is great on the mic, I'll give him that, so maybe he could use that talent during a heel run to hide the fact that he's not all that great in the ring.

• Jinder really deserves a good push. I thought maybe with what happened at WrestleMania that it was possible, but him losing to Zayn the next night just killed all that.

• Triple H's Fabulous Fatties vs Seth Rollins and Finn Bálor Mystery Partner was alright, I guess.

I'm not really phased by the return of Bálor and his Castlevania music if I'm honest. I'm just glad he didn't return doing that ridiculous demon thing.

• Things look promising for Raw now. Hopefully I can say the same thing after Raw next week.
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