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Old 05-26-2019, 02:20 PM   #1
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It threw me off that somebody under WWE contract would be at AEW, but then I remembered he was covering for Busted Open.
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Old 05-26-2019, 02:23 PM   #2
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The next day still thinking about many of the + things that came out of this show. A really good ppv overall. The show was fun, enjoyable, unpredictable and nothing felt forced. Some great stuff, some stuff to improve on.

A big win all the way around.
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Old 05-26-2019, 02:38 PM   #3
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Well it is a nice strap and he isn't wrong about the belts in the WWe
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Old 05-26-2019, 02:47 PM   #4
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The belts in wwe don't mean jack shit. That's what he's taking a shot at. And he's right.

The AEW belt is gorgeous. Big and gold. My favorite.
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The belts in wwe don't mean jack shit. That's what he's taking a shot at. And he's right.

The AEW belt is gorgeous. Big and gold. My favorite.
He didn't say WWE's belts though, he said wrestling belts.

It's called hypocrisy.

Belts don't mean anything, oh but this brand new one does.

It's the same problem I have with HHH saying something like "Guardians of the Indies" but then signing a bunch of Indy guys.

Hypocrisy is Hypocrisy regardless of which brand said guy works for.

Had JR not said that shit, I wouldn't have thought of it during the AEW title reveal.
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Can’t wait for WWE to counter this with a barnburner Lashley/Corbin tag match on Raw
Ha, this popped me. But seriously, it will be Rollins/Reigns vs. Lashley/Corbin. Get real.

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Apparently Dustin went into last night assuming it was his retirement match and he planned on leaving his boots in the ring after. Cody's comments after the match and invitation to face the Bucks were a surprise to him.
You could tell. Genuine emotion came out of both men.

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I didn't feel any TNA from AEW... The references at the beginning made me laugh, the throne breaking works only if you watched Game of Thrones.
Not a Game of Thrones fan, I thought the throne-breaking was awesome. They are living off being the other right now. Cody’s gimmick is that he is the EVP from a royal wrestling family. AEW is different. That was the point. And it worked in front of that crowd. When you see Triple H take four minutes to get to the ring at Super Showdown or Mania next year, you can remember that moment as a relevant critique of why we need new in wrestling.

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Genuinely makes me so sad watching Dustin at his age doing what he did last night. So many guys have had so many years wasted in the WWE grind.

Goldust character was so good, imagine what he could have been doing for the last 10 years with stories and direction as he got older. A great character and performer could have told some amazing stories and, like so many others, a massive portion of his career has been wasted doing nothing important every week.
I hear the point, and it would have been nice if wrestling was wrestling over the past twenty years or whatever. But Dustin had a lot pent up. Having something to prove probably pushed him a little bit.

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"Title Belts have never meant less in wrestling" ~ Jim Ross
"There is the new championship, BEAUTIFUL, WHAT A STRAP" ~ JR like a week later

BAH GAWDDDDD BOOMEER SOONEEER WHAT A PRIZE


Dont blame me, he said it.
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He didn't say WWE's belts though, he said wrestling belts.

It's called hypocrisy.

Belts don't mean anything, oh but this brand new one does.

It's the same problem I have with HHH saying something like "Guardians of the Indies" but then signing a bunch of Indy guys.

Hypocrisy is Hypocrisy regardless of which brand said guy works for.

Had JR not said that shit, I wouldn't have thought of it during the AEW title reveal.
Lol, you’re working a bit hard to bury this thing. JR was talking about the way WWE treats their belts. Maybe he was even thinking about how New Japan has too many? But he wasn’t saying that AEW’s are immediately going to be shit.
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Old 05-26-2019, 05:29 PM   #7
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Lol, you’re working a bit hard to bury this thing. JR was talking about the way WWE treats their belts. Maybe he was even thinking about how New Japan has too many? But he wasn’t saying that AEW’s are immediately going to be shit.
What thing? I am burying Jim Ross a little, based on what he said. Nothing more.

Of course AEW needs it's own champions. I'm hoping they come up with something innovative for a secondary title like when the X Division first came around.

Once again, Jim Ross said wrestling titles have never meant less. I didn't say that, Jim Ross said that. But an additional AEW championship added to the landscape of profession wrestling is ok to him in his narrative that title belts have no value.

Hypocrisy
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:10 PM   #8
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What thing? I am burying Jim Ross a little, based on what he said. Nothing more.

Of course AEW needs it's own champions. I'm hoping they come up with something innovative for a secondary title like when the X Division first came around.

Once again, Jim Ross said wrestling titles have never meant less. I didn't say that, Jim Ross said that. But an additional AEW championship added to the landscape of profession wrestling is ok to him in his narrative that title belts have no value.

Hypocrisy
Bro. Come on. He worked for NJPW. He knows the IWGP and Intercontinental titles are treated with a great deal of respect. He was clearly referring to the WWE. Read between the lines.

Like, even STD has calmed down with the try hard AEW hate. You’re worse than STD right now.
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What Culture stirring the pot talking about All Out's design with CM Punks "4 stars" design in it....geez.
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He was obviously talking about WWE making belts meaningless... not that belts shouldn't exist in wrestling...
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He was obviously talking about WWE making belts meaningless... not that belts shouldn't exist in wrestling...


If Aaron Rodgers said rape is bad, I would think "no shit Aaron, no shit"
If Ben Roethlisberger said rape is bad, I would think "hold the fuck on Ben, you raped 2 people"

Hypocrisy
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If Aaron Rodgers said rape is bad, I would think "no shit Aaron, no shit"
If Ben Roethlisberger said rape is bad, I would think "hold the fuck on Ben, you raped 2 people"

Hypocrisy
Where did AEW touch you inappropriately?
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He didn't say WWE's belts though, he said wrestling belts.

It's called hypocrisy.

Belts don't mean anything, oh but this brand new one does.

It's the same problem I have with HHH saying something like "Guardians of the Indies" but then signing a bunch of Indy guys.

Hypocrisy is Hypocrisy regardless of which brand said guy works for.

Had JR not said that shit, I wouldn't have thought of it during the AEW title reveal.
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He was obviously talking about WWE making belts meaningless... not that belts shouldn't exist in wrestling...
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If Aaron Rodgers said rape is bad, I would think "no shit Aaron, no shit"
If Ben Roethlisberger said rape is bad, I would think "hold the fuck on Ben, you raped 2 people"

Hypocrisy
What in the holy fuck...
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Old 05-26-2019, 04:11 PM   #15
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One thing I do think it clear is that the rumors that PAC was scheduled to go over Hangman were bullshit.

I figured it would be PAC/Hangman and Omega/Jericho to decide the inaugural title match. PAC and Omega would've won, and the problem then was they wanted Omega to be the first champ but DG wanting PAC to hold the belt longer meant PAC couldn't lose a singles match in the next few months. It's whatever, I get it. PAC wants to do the right thing by his promotion and he wants the next singles match he loses to be for the title to put someone at DG over. He's demanded time limit draws against ZSJ and Ospreay for the same reasons.

But then Jericho beat Omega and that throws the whole theory out the window. They weren't doing a PAC/Jericho heel vs. heel title match, and they weren't about to abort Omega as the first champ if that was the plan.

So I think Hangman/Jericho was always their plan and they just simply didn't account for the fact that they were going to be asking another promotion's champion to do a clean job for nothing in return.

I appreciate that they want to avoid politics, but it's wrestling. If you don't play politics, politics will eventually play you.
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Gonna try to watch this I guess.... found the preshow, gonna start from there
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The card was exhausting as it was, but don’t promote things you aren’t going to deliver. That’s just so infuriating. None of the excuses made sense. You could do the match at DoN and then not put PAC against Omega. They just fucked up.
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Cool setup and slick graphics..... lol at the one commentator who is not in a mask not looking like he knows when to talk and trying to talk but the dude in the mask won't stop....
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Commentators need more enthusiasm or something.... I dunno....

Nice... Justin Roberts!
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Marvez is a pro. Got heaps of experience in broadcasting and the like. Just wasn’t his night or environment or whatever.
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Wacky Battle Royale rules.... a good way to start any federation!

A wrestler with no legs? Is he going to win because both legs can't touch the floor?
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First impression of this MJF dude people here have been saying is a possible star is "not good".....

Now WTF, this Japanese guy rubbing oil all over himself...... not a good way to kick off your federation at all.....
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Still pretty weird that Glacier was closer to being the first AEW Champion than, say, Cody.
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Shawn Spears looking good..... but when he looks like your most "legit" dude out there (Not because he was in WWE, but because he actually looks good), it is an "issue".....
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Shawn Spears looking good..... but when he looks like your most "legit" dude out there (Not because he was in WWE, but because he actually looks good), it is an "issue".....
lol so much for him

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lol Glacier
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Cameras missing a lot of the action it seems in this battle royale....
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Why is there a little kid in the ring now....
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Ugh @ Tommy Dreamer and ECW chants.....
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Ugh @ Tommy Dreamer and ECW chants.....
Are there ever any WCW chants somewhere?

Just realized it's a hard thing to chant. Sounds dumb.
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I didn’t like ECW nostalgia a decade after it closed, let alone two. That said, I didn’t mind Dreamer’s involvement. By all accounts he's a really nice guy and very interview I’ve ever heard from the guy makes it clear he really loves wrestling and always has.

I understand why every Dreamer appearance gets labeled as ECW nostalgia given how synonymous he was with that brand, but I try to think of it more about rewarding a good guy with a boundless passion for the industry than it is trying to remember a long-dead company.
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I understand why every Dreamer appearance gets labeled as ECW nostalgia given how synonymous he was with that brand, but I try to think of it more about rewarding a good guy with a boundless passion for the industry than it is trying to remember a long-dead company.


I watched the show again this morning. I think it's one of my favorite shows ever.
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lol at legless dude doing a 619, but the director cutting away from the camera for it
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Luchasaurus seems "good" but stuck in a dead-end gimmick...... Chokeslam through random table that was outside, with dude choosing to land neck first
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lol at this "sloth" kid.....
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The wildcard guy, the only guy who got his own entrance and music, won the match! I am surprised!

Jury is still out on this hangman dude for me, but we shall see!

Overall, not a great way to start out a federation, and not the best way to showcase who you hope to be one of your number one guys....
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Not one, but two people with librarian gimmicks..... cool, I guess?
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Nice.... I like the opponents coming from different entrances...
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lol at Guevara being in a submission hold, and the commentators talking about "was damage done to his knee?!" but then literally the next second he does like 17 jumps/flips.
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