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Old 11-09-2019, 11:32 PM   #1
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:32 PM   #3
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Sometimes too much freedom isn’t always a good thing.
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Ref probably regrets not sweeping away a bit of that broken glass from the ring.
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This is nuts. Not necessarily in a good way either.
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This is nuts. Not necessarily in a good way either.
But also kind of in a good way.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:35 PM   #7
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Nice of Moxley to help take apart the ring for the ring crew.
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They’ve also sent the message they are more proud of this than the belt.
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They’ve also sent the message they are more proud of this than the belt.
You fucking knob. Do you think it'd be possible to follow up this retardedly violent match? Get a grip.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:43 PM   #10
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You fucking knob. Do you think it'd be possible to follow up this retardedly violent match? Get a grip.


For me we had two five star matches back to back and they were totally different. Amazing Lights Out match. I loved it. Kenny Omega is once in a life time and Mox is a real psychopath. I can't wait to see him go against Jimmy Havoc.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:37 PM   #11
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Holy shit at Omega going face first into the ring boards
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:38 PM   #12
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That was pure insanity.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:41 PM   #13
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Cody/Jericho MOTN for sure. That was a masterclass in storytelling.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:42 PM   #14
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Moxley vs Omega was amazing and freaking brutal. The broken glass stuff is the only thing I would have taken out since that was way worse to watch than the thumbtack spots last time.

Full Gear was also very good overall.
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Moxley vs Omega was amazing and freaking brutal. The broken glass stuff is the only thing I would have taken out since that was way worse to watch than the thumbtack spots last time.

Full Gear was also very good overall.
Suger glass tho sooo..
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:43 PM   #16
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Of the official PPV, it was kind of average compared to the others.



But that unsanctioned match, holy fucking shit. That alone was worth $50
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:43 PM   #17
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I'm good with never seeing a match like that main event ever again.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:48 PM   #18
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I'm good with never seeing a match like that main event ever again.
I'd be surprised if AEW does more than 2-3 of those type of matches per year going forward. Moxley vs. Omega made Moxley vs. Janela look tame by comparisons and also way too dangerous to try to top in terms of brutality.

Could be what the classic Hell in a Cell used to be for blood feuds in terms of status before WWE started overdoing them.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:46 PM   #19
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Crazy shit...
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I will say I do appreciate the storytelling of the ending of the main - Kenny going for one of Kota Ibushi's moves and that being the reason he lost.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:49 PM   #21
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Image what Mox will do when he goes Lights Out with Jimmy Havoc.
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the main issue with matches like that is it makes everyone else look like wimps in comparison.

However, I appreciate the idea of backing up the "Mox is too fucking crazy to be sanctioned" by proving why he's too crazy to be sanctioned. Could maybe have done it less gratuitously but it's legit.

As such, if you insist on doing matches like this, keep it around once every few years lol

Hopefully this "makes AEW cave" and sanction his matches so that he *can't* take it that far in anything Lights Out anymore. And agreed, keep it occasional and not ramp it up to bi-weekly.


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So, while death matches are not for me (but I also couldn't turn away from it) I will say that Moxley and Omega will have EVERYONE in wrestling talking about their match....so it's a big win for AEW!


My favorite match of the night goes to Cody vs Jericho as well!
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the main issue with matches like that is it makes everyone else look like wimps in comparison.

However, I appreciate the idea of backing up the "Mox is too fucking crazy to be sanctioned" by proving why he's too crazy to be sanctioned. Could maybe have done it less gratuitously but it's legit.

As such, if you insist on doing matches like this, keep it around once every few years lol
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Just watched this show. It was alright.

Opening tag match was great.

Adam Page/PAC was good, but really wish PAC won.... but I guess if they are serious with Hangman he kind of had to win.... he definitely need a better non-crappy finisher, though.

Tag Team Title match seemed way too short and ended "suddenly".... Rey Fenix is the man....

Shawn Spears is whatever.

Women's Title Match was alright, but feel like they the women are not the strength of AEW.

Cody/Jericho was pretty great. Ouch at Cody busting himself open... wonder if it was planned, or was just a legit accident from landing face first on the ramp.

Moxley/Omega I didn't really enjoy.... it seems like I have seen a lot more "brutal" seeming WWE/NXT matches that did not involve glass/barb-wire/blood/etc..... Also, I feel like despite the big thing about Moxley being "unsanctionable", "crazy", and the "purveyor of violence".... Omega sure came out looking like the more "vilolent" and "sadistic" one IMHO....

Honestly hope they move Moxley past "hardcore" matches..... And that they move on from them in general.....
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Had bad experience during beginning of the show but cought all the World title matches.

Didn't like the MJF turn. They had the perfect chance to have Cody turn on him instead Cody looks like a dumbass. It still works but have been way better the other way around.
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Old 11-10-2019, 12:22 AM   #28
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Thinking back at how amazing the Cody vs. Jericho match and MJF stuff was...

MJF going to finally be a mega top heel also... looking forward to that...
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Went to a buddy's place to watch this and thought it was great. I hope AEW keeps up the momentum. Some stuff bugs me in terms of finishes (towel throw, small package on the TV taping)
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I mean if Cody would have went ballistic on MJF after that match it would have blown the roof off the place. They were already chanting "you fucked up", had Cody just super kicked him then they'd had a great segment.
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The only problem I had with the lights out match was the lights never went out
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Somebody mentioned the lights went out. Hmm. Wasnt watching after Jelly lost.
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Somebody mentioned the lights went out. Hmm. Wasnt watching after Jelly lost.
The went to red like the Fiend was wrestling
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I totally missed that it was Jericho's birthday
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The fan that threw water at MJF was apparently an indy wrestler named Alan Angels. AEW are faking their own heat.
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MJF draws more heat than anybody in the company, but fans have been conditioned to not throw shit anymore. Same reason nobody rushes the ring anymore either. It’s a guaranteed ejection and very possibly an arrest.

It was always going to be a plant. But it did it’s job of making a nice visual.
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I figured it was a plant. Too perfect. Either way, fantastic moment to choreograph.

A lot of over reaction to the Lights Out match. I grew up a a WWF/WCW fan, when some older kid at school told me about ECW and and how they use barbed wire bats, blood and fire I was memorized by the idea and sought it out. That lead me to FMW, Big Japan, Wing, and IWA. I certainly got over the fad soon enough, but there is something morbidly appealing about the DEATH MATCH style. Once I had hit the rounds in Japan, then there was XPW and CZW. I had a lot more access to seeing XPW than CZW unfortunately. I never cared much for death matches in America. The way CZW turned them into real sicko affairs just never appealed to me.

With that said... this match really appealed to that part of me as a kid who had a blood lust for this shit. I think this was one of the safest and more impressive looking death styles matches I've seen. Easily the best match involving sicko props like barbed wire and glass that I can remember.
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