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Old 06-19-2020, 09:09 PM   #1
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It sounds harsh, but justice is a hard thing to find even with all the right avenues taken so bypassing the system and taking it to social media first seems to be an easier way for people to have their accusation taken seriously.

It's not a good idea though.

This is precisely why the press and jurors are kept apart legally.
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:11 PM   #2
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It sounds harsh, but justice is a hard thing to find even with all the right avenues taken so bypassing the system and taking it to social media first seems to be an easier way for people to have their accusation taken seriously.

It's not a good idea though.

This is precisely why the press and jurors are kept apart legally.
That is a very good point.

It becomes hard to weed out bias even if you've only heard something in passing and think you can separate yourself from that and the idea of "guilt" or even "innocence."
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:14 PM   #3
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Jack Gallagher being released is a bit of a jar. Just because they seemed to act on that really fast.
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:19 PM   #4
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Jack Gallagher being released is a bit of a jar. Just because they seemed to act on that really fast.
I think it's because he basically admitted it.

The woman made her Twitter private, but she posted screenshots of Gallagher messaging with the person whose house the party was at and Gallagher was talking about wanting to apologize to her and stuff and asked the guy to ask her if she feels OK with Gallagher messaging her (she said no), though Gallagher also said that that he didn't remember it happening

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I think it's because he basically admitted it.

The woman made her Twitter private, but she posted screenshots of Gallagher messaging with the person whose house the party was at and Gallagher was talking about wanting to apologize to her and stuff and asked the guy to ask her if she feels OK with Gallagher messaging her (she said no), though Gallagher also said that that he didn't remember it happening

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Ah, didn't know that. I mean, it's pretty fucked up what he did, and sorry doesn't make it any better, but it's got to sting that you showing something resembling remorse is what fucks you over. If you had just doubled-down and been a cunt, you'd still be getting paid $500k a year.

Argh, this is all so gross.
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:49 PM   #6
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Ah, didn't know that. I mean, it's pretty fucked up what he did, and sorry doesn't make it any better, but it's got to sting that you showing something resembling remorse is what fucks you over. If you had just doubled-down and been a cunt, you'd still be getting paid $500k a year.

Argh, this is all so gross.
Typical WWE. Didn't they JUST TODAY issue a statement that they would not terminate a contract unless the wrestler was convicted? Even only a suspension when arrested/charges filed, but not terminated.

Took them legit 3 hours to go against their own statement smh.
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:18 PM   #7
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People form allegiances too. Some NXT groupie is not necessarily going to be impartial, especially if he's got relationships with the people who talk to him versus the people who won't.

I'm NOT saying don't that that woman seriously, but if Riddle's side were true, then it's not like everybody is necessarily going to know. Especially if it is just coming out now. If he didn't do it, or things were more cordial than implied now, he's probably handling it the best way by getting a lawyer and doing things professionally.

It's just a shame that the system can fuck over the party with the truth on their side in some cases. If Riddle and Cornette (the two guys who seem to be taking legal action) did the things they've been accused of, then it doesn't necessarily mean they are going to lose (obviously). And it doesn't mean they are going to come out smelling of roses even if they didn't, either.
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:24 PM   #8
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Velveteen Dream's name popped up and its similar to other allegations involving him in the past.

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Velveteen Dream's name popped up and its similar to other allegations involving him in the past.

That's troubling given what he's going through. Things like this should be easy enough to verify with technology, sent receipts and stuff.
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Dream's probably the most troubled talent NXT has considering just the drug rumors about him have been going on for years.

Most serious one was him allegedly being a drug supplier to the NXT and PC locker room around the same time WWE was having some serious drug issues in developmental.
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Dream's probably the most troubled talent NXT has considering just the drug rumors about him have been going on for years.

Most serious one was him allegedly being a drug supplier to the NXT and PC locker room around the same time WWE was having some serious drug issues in developmental.
I never heard that.

Talent should not excuse anyone, but it's a damn shame, because there was really something there with the guy. Fucking waste.
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What I've said, and completely stand by, is that victims should be taken seriously. And I've never said that any of these accusations should not be. All of them should be investigated for validity. And it's true that false allegations are statistically very rare.
I agree with this in general but it’s also a different dynamic when you’re dealing with a celebrity/public figure with issues like this. There are a lot of people out there who will do anything for money or fame or to bring attention to themselves for all sorts of different reasons.
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Typical WWE. Didn't they JUST TODAY issue a statement that they would not terminate a contract unless the wrestler was convicted? Even only a suspension when arrested/charges filed, but not terminated.

Took them legit 3 hours to go against their own statement smh.
Eh, I hear ya, but on the other hand, I think they did reserve the right to go harder on people in the same statement? And it's their prerogative as a company, I guess -- especially if there appears to be more substantial evidence to the allegation than the murky waters of he-said/she-said. It could also be a compounded issue of some sort. We don't really know.

But the timing of that was fucking harsh.

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Mmm, yeah. I think that's reasonable, and I'm coming around to this line of thinking, but it's still a fucking hazard to go so public with something when you're going to get backlash for it. But if you believe any publicity is good publicity, and don't mind smashing yourself in the nuts with a hammer for attention, or think that anything "going viral" means it's good...

And as time goes on, people's confidence in making whatever claims is going to change, as are how people respond to them.
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All of the accused come out sounding worse in their apologies. It’s like they’re all worried about coming away with whatever “points” they can by making a public apology to the people they’ve hurt instead of making a sincere apology to them directly and in private.
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Think they’re fucked every which way if you go by Jack Gallagher’s experience. Seems he tried to apologise privately and that landed him in it more.

I guess they need to make a public apology as the accusation is also in the public domain. And 100% trying to minimise the “brand damage”.
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Tozawa involved in animal abuse?


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Old 06-20-2020, 05:48 PM   #26
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That's been going around about him for a long time and something that keeps popping up every so often online.

When Shingo Takagi got hired by NJPW, think that rumor involving the Dragon Gate pet monkey resurfaced for a bit.
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I heard HHH forcibly had sex with a co-workers ex girlfriend. She also happened to be dead.

Where's the media on that one!?!?!?

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Old 06-20-2020, 10:29 AM   #28
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What about that time a gang of wrestlers kidnapped a victim and choppy choppied his peepee?
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There are serious allegations, then there are people saying “I heard Akira Tozawa spewed cum in a monkey’s face.” I’m not saying he didn’t, but can we please get some actual accusations going?
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If Jim Cornette forced you to fuck his wife, come out. If you’re a monkey that got jizzed on, please make sure you get paid by TNA.
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Do any of these allegations surprise anybody? This is a completely fucked up industry with a history of shady characters. For anyone to act outraged should give their head a shake, I'm sure there's way way way more sexual abuse allegations out there in pro wrestling that will never see the light of day.
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Vince McMahon exposed himself at a tanning salon in front of me. It’s a good thing Taz was there to save the day.
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Add Marq Quen to the list of accused with his stuff involving dick pics being sent to an unwilling person. Same for Trent Seven's name popping up again in regards to past allegations with underage girls.

Also allegations against Piper Niven and Session Moth in regards to bullying incidents with other female wrestlers.

Also current rumor going around the net is WWE quietly got the Velveteen Dream accusations removed from Reddit via legal threats. Supposedly they were also active in trying to get the alleged audio of Dream from a different accusation removed online.

https://old.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...dmins/fveqzys/


Also more people from within NXT UK have been collaborating the accusations against Ligero so probably safe to pencil him in as the next guy WWE is firing. Same for Travis Banks in terms of firings since more accusations have popped up.
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