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Old 01-09-2005, 10:50 PM   #1
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Seriously, I hate fucking WWE now. I swear if there was something better on Monday night, I would watch it. If WCW was still going and Nitro was on the air, I would watch that, because even the programming we insulted so much is better than the same old crap WWE keeps handing off to us. Thank god TNA is around now and kicking, or I would just hate wrestling right now.
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:03 PM   #2
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Seriously, I hate fucking WWE now. I swear if there was something better on Monday night, I would watch it.
The show 24 is on fox from 9-10 from now on every monday night
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:46 PM   #3
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So how did HHH win?
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:46 PM   #4
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I knew a "Fuck the fans" swerve was coming.
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I knew a "Fuck the fans" swerve was coming.
But WHAT THE FUCK is the point of that????? They know what we want, and they do just the FUCKING OPPOSITE?!?!?!?!?
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:51 PM   #6
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But WHAT THE FUCK is the point of that????? They know what we want, and they do just the FUCKING OPPOSITE?!?!?!?!?
Because there's no alternative to them.

If you don't agree with what the WWE is doing, what else are you going to watch?
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Because there's no alternative to them.
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:06 PM   #8
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If you don't agree with what the WWE is doing, what else are you going to watch?

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Old 01-09-2005, 11:10 PM   #9
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Maybe they're doing like a Randy Orton type of thing. You know how at Summerslam everyone was all happy for him and then at the end of the match on Raw Batista and Triple H acted all happy. And then Triple H gave Batista a motion and dropped him. Maybe they're going kinda with the same angle for tomorrow.
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:48 PM   #10
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:49 PM   #11
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LOL, WHAT did I say right after the Title was held up? I told you guys. They need a strong heel champ for Mania. Of course HHH was going to win.
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:51 PM   #12
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LOL, WHAT did I say right after the Title was held up? I told you guys. They need a strong heel champ for Mania. Of course HHH was going to win.
I don't think any of us are completely surprised, no, but that's not the point. The point is, they know what we want, and we got just the opposite! The point is, why the FUCK did they masturbate our minds just to SCREW us out of 40 bucks?!?
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:50 PM   #13
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fuck this.. im going to bed...damnit it would have been more entertaining to put my money in the middle of the floor, burn it, then piss on it...
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:50 PM   #14
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So, where do we go from here?
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:51 PM   #15
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What were all the match results?

And Triple H fucked up my predictions. I was right on the money on the EC match until HHH beat RKO. YOU BASTARD!!!!!!
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:51 PM   #16
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If Randy could have just held out a little more and hit the RKO he would have won
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Batista has to turn on HHH... he has too.. thats the only way... FUCK!!!
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:53 PM   #18
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Batista has to turn on HHH... he has too.. thats the only way... FUCK!!!
I agree with you.
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:53 PM   #19
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IT'S ORTON VS HHH AT MANIA. Or a triple threat with Batista.
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:56 PM   #20
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Tomorrow on RAW: Bischoff comes out and says Edge unfairly got everybody's hopes up that Christian would get a World Title shot and that all The Peeps are sending hate mail and letter bombs and as a result the main event on Raw will be HHH vs. Christian. Christian goes over cleanly.
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:56 PM   #21
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What were all the match results?

And Triple H fucked up my predictions. I was right on the money on the EC match until HHH beat RKO. YOU BASTARD!!!!!!
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Look at it like this:

At least there was a shot in WWE of somebody other than HHH winning, but the gun was empty.

In TNA, we all know who will win...



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Old 01-09-2005, 10:57 PM   #23
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Let's look at this rationally. All the competitors. Ready

Jericho: Has been jobbed countless times already. Hasn't been booked strong. No chance at winning.

Benoit: Already had the belt and they had no faith in him when he had the belt. No chance at winning

Orton: They've booked him strong to take the belt from a heel at Mania. NO chance at winning.

Edge: Way too soon and they already have HHH to go into Mania as strong heel. No chance of winning

Batista: I think he had the closest chance of winning besides Trips. But they learned there lesson from Orton and it was a smart move.
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:01 PM   #24
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I quit Raw 3 month's ago. I watch Smackdown every once in a while. Right now, Impact is the only show I watch everyweek.

Watch out for the Ultimate X Match next Sunday. Monty Brown will become WORLD CHAMP.
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They should have had micheals help HHH
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:04 PM   #26
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Jericho: Has been jobbed countless times already. Hasn't been booked strong. No chance at winning.
Okay, but why the awful booking?!? The fans LOVE him!

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But why no faith in him?!? The fans LOVE him!

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Orton: They've booked him strong to take the belt from a heel at Mania. NO chance at winning.
But why wait til Mania and screw us out of our money tonight?!?

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Edge: Way too soon and they already have HHH to go into Mania as strong heel. No chance of winning
Agreed. And besides, Edge sucks.

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What was the lesson? Bullshit. The lesson was fuck the fans? The lesson was take our money and run? Bullshit.
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:06 PM   #27
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Let's look at this rationally. All the competitors. Ready

Jericho: Has been jobbed countless times already. Hasn't been booked strong. No chance at winning.

Benoit: Already had the belt and they had no faith in him when he had the belt. No chance at winning

Orton: They've booked him strong to take the belt from a heel at Mania. NO chance at winning.

Edge: Way too soon and they already have HHH to go into Mania as strong heel. No chance of winning

Batista: I think he had the closest chance of winning besides Trips. But they learned there lesson from Orton and it was a smart move.

Here's what I see the biggest problem to be, and why I wanted Edge to win... HHH Vs Orton has been done, both on ppv, and on Raw. The fans have seen it, it's not new. Batista Vs HHH for the first time would be a better WM main event... Now here's the problem... If Batista jobs to HHH, the build up was for nothing, and he's been pretty much screwed over. However, if Batista beats HHH and wins the world title, I honestly feel it's to early. If HHH wouldn't have won, those two could have fought without a title, giving Batista a win, and making him huge.

Oh well, lets hope for Jericho vs Benoit at WM, because they'll probably have nothing better going for them.
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:12 PM   #28
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Here's what I see the biggest problem to be, and why I wanted Edge to win... HHH Vs Orton has been done, both on ppv, and on Raw. The fans have seen it, it's not new. Batista Vs HHH for the first time would be a better WM main event... Now here's the problem... If Batista jobs to HHH, the build up was for nothing, and he's been pretty much screwed over. However, if Batista beats HHH and wins the world title, I honestly feel it's to early. If HHH wouldn't have won, those two could have fought without a title, giving Batista a win, and making him huge.

Oh well, lets hope for Jericho vs Benoit at WM, because they'll probably have nothing better going for them.
Yeah. Totally agree with you 100% about Batista. It should be Batista/HHH at Mania for the Title. No if's and's or but's. That's the money match.
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:00 PM   #29
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LC, your logic is pissing me off.


JERICHO DAMM IT! CHRIS FUCKING JERICHO!
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Wait a minute, I didn't see the PPV. What the fuck happened?
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Wait a minute, I didn't see the PPV. What the fuck happened?

Eugene got injured
Lita apparently got injured
Camera man got jericho thrown into him
Big nose regains the belt.

And those can be considered the highlights of that ppv.
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Eugene got injured
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Camera man got jericho thrown into him
Big nose regains the belt.

And those can be considered the highlights of that ppv.
You forgot Kane breaking Snitsky's neck with a brutal Tombstone.
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You forgot Kane breaking Snitsky's neck with a brutal Tombstone.

Yeah that was pretty fucked up looking, anyone else notice the camera man appeared to be wearing elbow pads? Seen him laying there and noticed it, havn't read through this thread so dunno if it was mentioned but for a while i thought it was gonna turn out to be a wrestler interfering in the match.
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:05 PM   #34
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Wait a minute, wait a minute wait a fucking minute. Flair was in the ring, batista went and attacked Orton and HHH pinned him. AND THEN MICHAELS DID THE 3 COUNT!?!?!?

I SMELL AN HBK HEEL TURN
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HHH won? Wrestlezone just reported Orton won.
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HHH won? Wrestlezone just reported Orton won.
Before Batista is able to get out of the ring he helps HHH. Flair runs in the ring while the cage door is open. Orton hits the RKO, but Flair distracts the ref and then Batista drills Orton.


Orton is knocked out. HHH barely gets to his feet as HBK tries to get Flair and Batista out of the ring. HHH then hits the pedigree and rolls over on Orton and gets the three count. Winner: Randy Orton
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I was fairly disappointed with the card. They made Hassan look too weak! How the Hell are we supposed to take him seriously if he can't kick out of Lawler's DDT (No matter how powerful it looked, Hassan should have gotten his foot on the rope under his own power). And what is up with him using the Downward Spiral? I really don't see why they didn't have him use The Finishing Touch.

BTW, what is the point of having him use the Camel Clutch? That move is used by every Arab character and his dog. He really should have put Jerry in the surfboard to soften him up for The Finishing Touch.

And Daivari looked weak in this match also. He could have at least looked like he was about to kick JR's ass, instead of running. I'm going to find it hard to take these guys seriously until Hassan gets to really go (he looked just about ready to snap and break out in this match, but he refrained and put on the crapfest they wanted), and both guys look like THREATS.

The Elimination Chamber was predictable, and I think the only saving thing about it was the action it contained. I'm a bit upset we didn't see a German Suplex through the "plexiglass" or something like that. Let's take a look at these eliminations, as well:

1. Edge
Good pick for the first elimination. He could go so easily without losing heat. He actually gains it, since HBK cost him the match. I'm glad Jericho got the pin, but it was the only Lionsault of the match. It's a shame, because there were so damn many in the first Elimination Chamber at Survivor Series 2002.

Anyway, it looks like Edge will do well in the Rumble, until HBK eliminates him, leading to Edge snapping, and us having Edge vs. HBK at Mania. Edge should go over cleanly, and we'll FINALLY have another top heel that they can shift the World Heavyweight Championship to as early as possible.

2. Chris Benoit
This wasn't the worst move, but it could have been better. I would have liked to have seen Benoit kick out of the Spinebuster, which leads to Batista snapping and throwing Benoit outside. Benoit makes a comeback, keeps ramming Batista into a chamber cell again and again until it smashes, then we see Batista explode back with a Clothesline. Batista Bomb on the outside, Benoit is eliminated, he looks strong, Batista looks strong, everyone goes home happy.

I don't know what they have planned for Benoit & Jericho at Mania, but to be honest they may as well have Benoit & Regal, or Benoit & Jericho take over as World Tag Team Champions since Eugene is injured. Eric Bischoff should jump at the chance (from a storyline point of view) to get new World Tag Team Champions.

3. Chris Jericho
Who couldn't they just have him outlive Batista in this match. I think Jericho has come in thrid place in each previous Chamber, so they should have at least given Jericho some consistancy. I loved Jericho in this match, and I could almost feel an upset. Jericho took the only Batista Bomb of the match, and it was good of him to take that honour.

Jericho, like Benoit, has absolutely no direction for Mania, so they may as well put the World Tag Team Championship on him and Benoit (or Edge & HBK).

4. Batista
It was good he went where he was, and the fans hated it, but it's better they keep Batista vs. Triple H until Mania. That is all I have to say. Except I hope Batista wins the Royal Rumble.

5. Randy Orton
Thank God he didn't win the title. The only way I could stomache Orton as World Champion again, is if it is on SmackDown!, or if he went back to being an arrogant heel. The fans aren't buying into Orton as well as the WWE would hope, as he got quite a lot of boos, and he was right up there with Triple H in their poll "Who do you not want to see win the Chamber at NYR?". I would have taken Triple H over Orton anyday.

How hard would it have been to put the title on Jericho, then have it switch hands at the Royal Rumble back to Triple H? The saving grace of the finish was the shoulders/thumbs part. It got me really excited, but it didn't make sense for them to betray Triple H there. Maybe Orton can win the title from Triple H at RR, join a new heel Evolution, then Batista wins the Rumble, and we have Orton vs. Batista at Mania?

Nah Triple H vs. Batista works better. Randy Orton vs. The Rock might be on the card as well. And Muhammad Hassan vs. Chris Jericho.
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lol at snitsky's theme startin goff with "it's not my fault"

and LMAO @ Daivari, when lawler kicked out he was like AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH as if he was having a heart attack, and then he fell to the floor ala flair when hassan kicked out of a move

i didn't do so well in tipsters.. 4/6 winners predicted correctly, and 0/5 for the elimination order

and mvp trips won, wrestlezone is probably losing a lot of credibility as we speak
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I think the most amazing thing in this ppv was the fact that despite the size of triple h's schnozz thats the first time ive ever (that i can remember) seen it bleeding. You'd think a target of that size woulda been cut open long before now.
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LOL Wrestlezone said Orton was the winner of the match, and I ignored the part that said "HHH rolls over Orton to get the three count", retards.

Anyway I was 90% sure HHH was walking out champion so he can job the title to Batista or Orton at Mania. It's likely now that they're pushing Orton as much as they are Batista so they'll probably do the triple threat.
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