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Old 10-03-2005, 01:13 AM   #1
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It actually makes quite a lot of sense that the Angels/Yankees are in the later time, considering that they're playing on the west coast. Looking forward to the White Sox being eliminated though.
Just because they are on the west coast means nothing. It's the Yankees... they get prime time. No one dare piss "the boss" off.
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Anyone who went to Red Sox game today, did you see guys playing music in front of fenway park
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Pretty sure them being on the west coast has a little to do with it as well.
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Pretty sure them being on the west coast has a little to do with it as well.
Pretty sure?

I'll help you. It has NOTHING to do with being on the west coast. By this are you telling me that there are no sunday afternoon games for west coast teams? That it is impossible for them to play before 3:00 CST?

BULLSHIT

Like I said before, MLB & FOX have it in their heads that everyone wants to see the Yankees. Even ESPN is calling for a repeat of the past two ALCS with a Boston/New York matchup.

They might not have the stars or the stats but the White Sox are the best team in the AL. 99 wins will get you that respect.

And again, what about the Red Sox? They ARE the defending champs. That alone, even though they are the wild card again, should net them a nationally televised game on the first night of the playoffs.

Not until the last out of last year's ALCS did FOX drop their hard on for everything New York and embraced Boston. I pray that Los Angeles/Anahiem and Chicago make the ALCS (even though I did pick NY).

Because as a baseball fan, that series would be worth the trouble.
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People on the East Coast don't notice the bias, which isn't their fault but they just don't.

If ESPN showed big montages on the Twins and White Sox everytime they played I would think it be pretty cool too, you know what I'm saying? There is no reason for them to complain, and there are a lot more people in New England and around there. Like if you think about it basically Massachusits, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island, maybe Delaware and Conneticuit, all support the Red Sox. New York itself is huge, then add in all the other places around there that don't have a team, like I guess the vaginas and stuff, there is just a lot of people over there.

Nonetheless, I agree with you. When I decided that I didn't give a shit about either team anymore was when midsummer, in a random meeting, (not the first meeting of the year or anything, and one when the Yankees were still awful) Sports Center had about five different stories on the teams, including extensive coverage on the bloody sock. I mean maybe for the first meeting, but the bloody sock has nothing to do with a midseason game in which Curt Schilling isn't even playing. Honestly.
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Well, I got 6 out of the 8 playoff teams and 4 out of the 6 division winners, but one of the teams I picked to go to the World Series (Florida Marlins) has been eliminated.
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The Angels get the prime time slot due to the time zone. Plain and simple, you'll get more viewers from LA at 5pm then 1pm.

a 4pm game, will cost some east coast viewers that simply aren't out of work yet. You'll loose almost the entire west coast audience.

By making the game 8pm/5pm you will get more west coast viewers for their team.

Otherwise you're telling the home team "skip school/work if you want to see your team".

I found it funny that the NYY were bitching they had to fly out to LA right away. They didn't have to, they could have pitched Musinna and left starters in and tried to win yesterday, then they would have had hosted the Angels.
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The Angels get the prime time slot due to the time zone. Plain and simple, you'll get more viewers from LA at 5pm then 1pm.
Not if you listen to the reps from Fox Sports: "We had a tough choice to make Sunday night, with {the markets} in LA and New York and along with the history of the Yankees, that is the series we choose to go with."

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Otherwise you're telling the home team "skip school/work if you want to see your team".
When the White Sox hosted the playoffs in 1993 & 2000, both years opened with day games (in 2000 both home games were in the afternoon).

So don't give me that bullshit, people in Chicago have to take off work or skip school to go to the game tomorrow.

And now it seems that the only way the Chicago/Boston series gets a national game is if it goes to game 5. (Game 1, 2, & 4* will be on ESPN, Game 3 on ESPN2, and Game 5* would be on Fox)
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Not if you listen to the reps from Fox Sports: "We had a tough choice to make Sunday night, with {the markets} in LA and New York and along with the history of the Yankees, that is the series we choose to go with."



When the White Sox hosted the playoffs in 1993 & 2000, both years opened with day games (in 2000 both home games were in the afternoon).

So don't give me that bullshit, people in Chicago have to take off work or skip school to go to the game tomorrow.

And now it seems that the only way the Chicago/Boston series gets a national game is if it goes to game 5. (Game 1, 2, & 4* will be on ESPN, Game 3 on ESPN2, and Game 5* would be on Fox)
You do understand the difference between 4pm and 1pm right?

Also, who did they play in 93 & 00 and who were the other teams?
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Hero, you really need to stop drinking when you post.

Because football is my favorite sport and the Patriots my favorite team, I'm not a "true" Red Sox/Baseball fan?

Yeah, I had a bag on for a few innings. It was a joke, it was coming off a huge loss, being 0-3 and Bellhorn just made an error. The bag went on, no one was pissed people thought it was funny. Didn't stay on the whole game.

So, think what you want, I really could careless.
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I remember the past few years when the Twins were on, our game one was always during the day, even when we played the Yankees.
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Toronto in the 93 ALCS (NLCS was Braves/Phillies) and Seattle in the 2000 ALDS (Yankees/A's, Mets/Giants, Braves/Cardinals)
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Who was the other games?
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Who was the other games?
I edited my post to show the other series
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We probably should have a playoff thread.

Anyway.

Angels v. Astros in the WS.

Winner, Astros.

I'll root for the Sox, but just don't see the pitching and the hitting has been spuratic. They need all the bats to get hot again for a shot.
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lol every single topic on the Mets message board contains at least one of the following:

Sign Manny Ramirez
Sign Billy Wagner or BJ Ryan
Sign Alfonso Soriano
Sign Yadier Molina
Sign Paul Konerko
Fire Willie Randolph and sign Lou Piniella

It is ridiculous.
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lol every single topic on the Mets message board contains at least one of the following:

Sign Manny Ramirez
Sign Billy Wagner or BJ Ryan
Sign Alfonso Soriano
Sign Yadier Molina
Sign Paul Konerko
Fire Willie Randolph and sign Lou Piniella

It is ridiculous.
Gotta love the Mets, they're the Yankees w/o the brains.

Never the right GM or Manager.

The Mets spend all this money, but never seem to have the right players at the right time.

Sox did that for many years, spending money on guys like Jack Clark & Matt Young.
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lol every single topic on the Mets message board contains at least one of the following:

Sign Manny Ramirez
Sign Billy Wagner or BJ Ryan
Sign Alfonso Soriano
Sign Yadier Molina
Sign Paul Konerko
Fire Willie Randolph and sign Lou Piniella

It is ridiculous.
Yeah, it's pretty stupid.

Not gonna lie, I'd love to see Manny on the Mets...but to get him the Sox will be guaranteed to ask for Lastings Milledge among others. I'd take on his contract as long as we could keep Milledge, but that's not going to happen. Mets would be smart to go after someone like Brian Giles, not terribly expensive but still a decent bat. Either that or they stand pat with Cameron or Diaz.

The priority is going to be getting a solid bullpen, and if they can get Wagner or Ryan they should...no way Looper should close next year. Set up man, MAYBE.....but closing? Fuck no

Soriano? Fuck that...we're already paying 7 mil to Kaz next year, and it's highly unlikely that the Mets would eat his contract or be able to trade him. I'd love to see Anderson Hernandez in there, though. Plus I can't see Soriano doing well in Shea Stadium.

Molina? Eh, maybe. Horrible arm or not I'd love to get Piazza on a 1-year deal for fairly cheap if possible, but Molina's a decent option

Konerko? OK, the people on that board are smoking crack. I'll admit, I was for getting Konerko, but that was before Mike Jacobs showed up. Konerko is streaky as hell and hella expensive. Jacobs, however, is cheap and provides great lefty power.

And Randolph is a lock to come back next year so there's no need to debate getting rid of him.

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I'm hoping Beltran possibly gets a permanent bump to the 2-hole for next year...I'm assuming he'll be MUCH better now that he's had his adjustment year, but he's not a number 3 hitter, IMO.
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It's not so much the GM as it is the fans...the only smart move I can see them making is pursuing bullpen and maybe a catcher.
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I'd say the money spent on Pedro was pretty well spent.
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It's not so much the GM as it is the fans...the only smart move I can see them making is pursuing bullpen and maybe a catcher.
Huh? So, Bonilla, Mo Vaughn, and I'm sure we can list others is the fans fault?

Since when did the fans make moves?

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This year? Sure and money is always better spent on pitching then hitting and Pedro had a great year! Question is, how much time is left on the deal and how will he be next year?

How about Beltran?
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So, the yanks are bitching about the Rangers. Well, more specificly Showalter, cause apperently he pulled his startets in the 3rd, after the scoreboard at the park show'd the Red Sox up 6-0 over the Yanks.

Had the Angels lost, the NYY would have had home field for their series.

Now, here's a better question, if the Yanks cared so much about home field, why pull their own starters early and why change SP's?

Clearly, it wasn't important enough to them, vs. keeping people fresh for the playoffs.
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The Mets are just a few steps away from being pretty good
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That describes 1/2 the league.
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The rumor is now that Furcal is willing to play 2B for Mets I can't stand him and he knows he will get big money from the Mets. Plus we already have Anderson Hernandez who should get a chance to start.
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So, do we all agree that the Rangers are dicks?

Could have sworn Miz and I pointed that out a few weeks ago.
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So, do we all agree that the Rangers are dicks?

Could have sworn Miz and I pointed that out a few weeks ago.
No, we all agree the Yanks are acting like Babies and if they really cared that much about home field should have played to win Sunday.

that being said, looks like the Yanks didn't need home field, did they...
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Old 10-04-2005, 11:29 PM   #36
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this whole Ranger's thing makes no sense to me. so he took out his starters. big deal. does this mean if things were different that Boston was going to bitch and moan because the White Sox started only 2 regulars last friday?

and they still won
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According to Giambi, they weren't that peeved because they have played well on the road as of late.
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According to Giambi, they weren't that peeved because they have played well on the road as of late.
Guess he should have asked A-rod, first. ESPN had the quotes, and Torre also.

It may be they were more pissed that the felt Showalter did it on purpose to try and "get back at George".
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Macha out as A's manager despite turnaround
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Posted: 44 minutes ago

Ken Macha will walk away from the Oakland Athletics after seven years with fresh memories of another winning season, despite a young and injury-depleted lineup.

He hopes potential employers appreciate that, too.
Macha was out of a job as A's manager Wednesday after failing to reach an agreement on a new contract, which he called one of several "massive disappointments" in his tenure.

"Who knows how the rest of baseball views you?" Macha said hours after general manager Billy Beane announced there would be no further negotiations to keep the third-year skipper.

"I can go home and sleep and know that we used tremendous character to get through this season," Macha said.

Macha led the A's to the AL West title in his first year as manager in 2003, the club's fourth straight playoff berth. But Oakland failed to reach the postseason the past two years despite a 91-win season in 2004 and 88 victories this year.


"We offered a three-year deal with a club option and they countered with a three-year deal without a club option," Beane said on a conference call. "I don't think we were ever going to be able to bridge the gap. It was a significant gap."

The option would have allowed the A's to decide whether to keep Macha after three seasons.

"There are no hard feelings whatsoever," Beane said. "This is part of the business."

Macha had said he hoped to return to the A's, but declined to discuss specifics of the team's offer, saying money matters are strictly personal. His agent, Alan Nero, told The Associated Press he received an offer from Beane on Monday, then offered a counter proposal Tuesday.

"This is a sad day for Kenny, the fans and the players," Nero said in a telephone interview. "It was an amicable separation and it's time for everybody to move on."

Nero said he spoke Wednesday to Pirates general manager Dave Littlefield about the managerial vacancy in Pittsburgh, where Macha lives. The Florida Marlins are also interested in the 55-year-old, Nero said.

Macha hopes teams will take into account how the A's performed with such a young roster. Four rookies played huge roles.

"Hopefully something will work out," Macha said. "You have experiences, and that was a growing experience."

The A's seemed out of it in May when they had two eight-game losing streaks and finished the month with a 7-20 record. Oakland rebounded with another strong second half, overcoming injuries to key players, including shortstop Bobby Crosby and No. 2 starter Rich Harden.

Macha's departure didn't catch players by surprise. Center fielder Mark Kotsay hopes Macha gets a chance with another club.

"I know contract offers were exchanged, and they probably couldn't foresee themselves coming to terms," Kotsay said in a phone interview. "I think he definitely had a respect for the players and allowed us to handle ourselves as professionals. He was just a good guy."

Macha was 275-211 in three seasons with the A's. He came to Oakland in 1999 following four seasons as a manager in Boston's farm system. He was promoted from bench coach when Art Howe left for the New York Mets following the 2002 season.

Beane said the sides had exchanged proposals this past weekend because both parties wanted to come to a resolution quickly, leaving Macha time to explore other openings.

"This whole issue didn't sneak up on us," Beane said. "It's disappointing we couldn't come to a conclusion that was satisfactory."

Beane said he would work to form a list of candidates to replace Macha, and didn't say whether members of the existing A's coaching staff would be considered.

On Monday, the A's announced hitting coach Dave Hudgens' contract would not be renewed
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Nah Macha will be in Pittsburgh. Here's your next Tampa Bay Devil Ray manager:

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