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Old 01-25-2004, 11:01 PM   #1
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Please Jesus, keep Benoit on Smackdown where he belongs.
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:01 PM   #2
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On a side note, I'd like to point out that Jericho was the last Raw superstar in the Rumble
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:06 PM   #3
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Not a bad PPV...

WTF on Hebner during the HHH v. HBK match... he seriously looked like he didn't know when to count or how to count. HHH down outside, no count, HBK down outside, count.

Plus he started chaging the speed once he hit 5-7 range late in the match.

and calling someone on there knees up? WTF... was a great match for the wrestlers, but Hebner really dropped the ball, not what you'd expect from the senior offical...

So, who wants to bet it's a Benoit for Goldberg trade? Goldberg goes after Lesner and Benoit v. HHH.

I just hope they let Benoit win at Wrestlemania v. whoever it is...
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:08 PM   #4
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If HHH is leaving for a while after WM wouldnt that mean Benoit would win the title
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:08 PM   #5
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Dammit, just rewound the tape to the Cena spot and Cena looked like he fk'ed his left knee up. DAM YOU BIG SHOW
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:12 PM   #6
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Wow... that was a great PPV actually. I was killed in the tipsters league but aah well. Cena and Hurricane both looked like they hurt their legs while going out. I remember thinking someone else took a bad fall to the outside but I can't remember who.
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:15 PM   #7
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k, Im still wondering how HHH is gonna do movies and make Benoit job at the same time
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:21 PM   #8
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k, Im still wondering how HHH is gonna do movies and make Benoit job at the same time
He'll find a way. He did it to Goldberg.
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:49 PM   #9
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k, Im still wondering how HHH is gonna do movies and make Benoit job at the same time
IIRC, Hogan was WWF champ while he filmed Suburban Commando.

He also held the WCW Title while he was off filming his various (shitty) movies.

And Triple H is TWICE the backstage Politician Hogan is. So I see it as completely possible.
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Old 01-26-2004, 02:19 AM   #10
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And Triple H is TWICE the backstage Politician Hogan is.
How do you know? Have you ever been in the WWE dressing room?
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:15 PM   #11
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Dudleyz vs Evolution: Oh like I even cared.

Cruiserweight Title: Good match, good way to continue storylines, too short.

Eddie vs Chavo: GREAT match, too short.

Brock vs Holly: Better than I thought it would be, watchable match, but I don't like either of them so meh.

HHH vs HBK: Honestly, I liked the ending. It was the one thing I didn't suspect and it keeps the feud going until Benoit jumps to Raw or else they establish someone else for the World Title slot at WM.

Rumble Match:

Bradshaw out first, how many smarks touched themselves over that.

The Undertaker tease was the BEST POSSIBLE WAY to do that if they're going for a WMXX match. Now they have two months to dog Kane's footsteps with bells tolling. Kane's reaction "I BURIED YOU ALIVE!!!" was absolutely perfect.

Kurt Angle is now officially my god for throwing out Goldberg.

Good to see them follow through on the Foley thing, they set it up well at the end with Orton running from him.

I don't watch Smackdown much these days, does Cena ALWAYS pump his shoes mid-match?

Great elimination swings for Angle and Big Show.

Great PPV, I'm quite pleased.
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:16 PM   #12
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When Luger torture racked the Big Show, it was a mark-out moment.
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:21 PM   #13
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When Luger torture racked the Big Show, it was a mark-out moment.
It would have benn a mark-out moment if Rico won the RR
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Old 01-26-2004, 12:02 AM   #14
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When Luger torture racked the Big Show, it was a mark-out moment.
You watching Starcade '96 or 97's World War 3?
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:19 PM   #16
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What I liked

Benoit winning the Rumble. WHOOOOOOOOOOO!

Foley's appearance and the way they handled Orton. I am thoroughly satisfied with that booking

Bradshaw being first eliminated.

Big Show = dead weight. What a great metaphor.

Victoria winning clean on HeAt (but to it being non-title)

Cena/RVD segment. "What? Dude, it was funny."

Tazz doing color for the Rumble.

HBK's bump. That was SICK! You could tell it was a blade job, but the fall was fantastic, and the "resulting" crimson mask was brutal.

The Undertaker tease. Couldn't have written it any better myself. Well... I would have put something on the Tron, but...

Brock F-5ing Goldberg. I'm all for anyone and everyone hitting their finishers on Goldie. I'd even be supportive of a Clothesline From Hell/Alabamaslam combination.

What I disliked

Cena's landing.

A Last Man Standing match where neither man was standing. The match is LAST MAN STANDING. SOMEBODY has to be standing. Count to ten, then say the first one up is the winner. You can't have a LAST MAN match without ANYONE winning! They're making up the rules as they go.

The undercard. Less than ten minutes for Rey/Jamie? Eddie with the frogsplash after...nothing? A spinebuster through the table? WTF with these endings.

My Tipster performance.
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:28 PM   #18
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A Last Man Standing match where neither man was standing. The match is LAST MAN STANDING. SOMEBODY has to be standing. Count to ten, then say the first one up is the winner. You can't have a LAST MAN match without ANYONE winning! They're making up the rules as they go.
It's always been a rule in last man standing matches. The same thing happened at St. Valentine's Day Massacre when Rock and Foley knocked each other out.
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Old 01-26-2004, 05:28 AM   #19
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A Last Man Standing match where neither man was standing. The match is LAST MAN STANDING. SOMEBODY has to be standing. Count to ten, then say the first one up is the winner. You can't have a LAST MAN match without ANYONE winning! They're making up the rules as they go.

This isnt the first time either remember Foley-The Rock back in 99 same thing happened
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Old 01-26-2004, 05:33 AM   #20
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The crowd didn't seem to like the ending, did they? (last man standing)
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:20 PM   #21
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I can honestly say I was impressed with this years Rumble..good effort by WWE
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I had actually forgotten about that. Still, though, shouldn't there be a man standing at the end of a last man standing match? I mean, you might as well just call it a "knockout match" if you're going to allow draws.
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I had actually forgotten about that. Still, though, shouldn't there be a man standing at the end of a last man standing match? I mean, you might as well just call it a "knockout match" if you're going to allow draws.
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I had actually forgotten about that. Still, though, shouldn't there be a man standing at the end of a last man standing match? I mean, you might as well just call it a "knockout match" if you're going to allow draws.
Yea, it's really a flaw in the name. The rules have always been that way.
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:43 PM   #30
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I had actually forgotten about that. Still, though, shouldn't there be a man standing at the end of a last man standing match? I mean, you might as well just call it a "knockout match" if you're going to allow draws.
Yeah. Last Man Standing is a bit of a misnomer. It's frustrating, but them's, as they say, the breaks.
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Old 01-25-2004, 11:47 PM   #31
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That was a great PPV in my opinion. The first 3 matches were a bit too short, but they had to do that in order to have time for the Rumble.

I really hope that Cena and Hurricane are alright. It would be a shame if either one of them were seriously hurt.

I loved The Undertaker tease. I totally marked out and got goosebumps

I was very happy that Benoit won, and how Goldberg got eliminated was really good. The way I think this will work out is that, since Benoit won the Rumble, Heyman will be afraid that Benoit will defeat Lesnar, so he will trade Beniot to RAW for Goldberg. Then that would mean that Benoit would face HHH at WrestleMania XX for the Title. Then, I think that Goldberg will get the title shot against Lesnar at WrestleMania XX.

So I think that so far, WrestleMania will look like this:

WWE Title
Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg

World Heavyweight Title
HHH vs. Chris Benoit

Inter-Brand Match
Undertaker vs. Kane

Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero

WrestleMania XX looks awesome
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Why cant the Rock do it?
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Old 01-26-2004, 12:13 AM   #33
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Why cant the Rock do it?
What, Torture Rack the Big Show? Because he doesn't have the awesome might of the Total Package.

Seriously, Rocky doesn't wrestle and make movies at the same time probably because he actually puts some effort into his. Sure, Scorpion King was nothing to write home about, but it was freakin Godfather 2 compared to Mr. Nanny.
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Old 01-26-2004, 12:30 AM   #34
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Why cant the Rock do it?
I don't think it's a matter of CAN he, more whether he WANTS TO.

Also, as Nowhere Man put it, the Rock seems to acturally put effort into his acting career. Hogan's were a half-assed novelty. I won't defend him as the next Pacino, but he's doing better than Hogan did.

HHH will likely not put that same level of energy into it.
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Old 01-26-2004, 02:35 AM   #35
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I didn't think Chris Beniot would really win it... If Mayor McCheese (alas, that is now Vince McMachon's name) is upset with internet reporters giving out spoilers (even though Beniot has busted his ass off for his push, and is an awesome wrestler) then maybe to keep things fresh Mayor McCheese would throw a curve ball into the spoilers... "Sean O'Haire comming back next week!" Everyone'll watch next week, and we see Jamie Noble doing the job to Mysterio, Hardcore Holly being a dick, and if the camera is just right we'll see the bottom of Sean O'Haire's cage. A few weeks later, outta the blue, Sean O'Haire really does come back. But Nooooo, Mayor McCheese pushes assholes like Holly and Bradshaw, no talent hosses like Mark Henry and A-Train, when THEY NEED TO BRING SEAN O'FUCKING HAIRE BACK!!!

'k... I'm done.

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Old 01-26-2004, 03:37 AM   #36
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Definitely satisfied with the actual Rumble match. Everything rumored to happen did happen, but in this case, I'm glad it did, because that's what I wanted to see.

But some of the other matches were bad.

Tipster performance: I should have seen some of this coming, though.
- I actually considered a draw in the LMS match, but then chose HBK for some reason after choosing HHH. Of course. Benoit's going to face HHH at WM, so he has to retain. DUH. And WWE never has one person go cleanly over another, so HBK can't lose... so draw is the logical conclusion. Grrr.
- Bradshaw eliminated first. I was going to pick that then thought that since hosses are always loved, he couldn't go out first.
- Eddie winning. Heart said he wound, but I thought they'd try to start off his feud with Angle accidentally costing him the match. Maybe Eddie's going to be heel after this and feud with face Angle. Basically, he turned heel AFTER he won the match... he'll unleash a new vicious side of him, similar to what the writers tried to do when he killed Tajiri on the lowrider.

Whatever... decent Rumble... the end certainly was great though, and I'm glad it finished on such a strong note.
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Old 01-26-2004, 05:41 AM   #37
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I've read a few of the pages and I've missed a week of Smackdown. My question is why is Benoit going to face HHH? Has he switched brands?
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Ok I didn't ordered it, but I've seen some clips.

That F5 to Goldberg looked insane, I dont know why, it just did

Goldberg sold it so well

That had to be one of the loudest pops I've heard for a while for Takers bells
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Old 01-26-2004, 06:27 AM   #39
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I accidently ordered it last night, didnt know I did. But was the crowd like totally dead throughout the night? They didnt really seem like they gave a crap and were just silent pretty much throughout every match and entrance, or was it just my TV?

Seemed like Eddie had to carry Chavo throughout their match.

The rumble was good, but could have been slightly better with the crowd more into it..or my TV was just half-assed or something.
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Old 01-26-2004, 06:35 AM   #40
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I accidently ordered it last night, didnt know I did. But was the crowd like totally dead throughout the night? They didnt really seem like they gave a crap and were just silent pretty much throughout every match and entrance, or was it just my TV?
Yeah, I thought the same. Unless I need a new TV as well.
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