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Old 08-17-2005, 11:19 AM   #1
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Spurs are Arsenal's rivals. Spurs fans are dickheads too though.

My mate is a spurs fan but he's alright, though his brother is abit of a dickhead. It's funny hearing them go on about how they will qualify for europe though, my friend thought they would finish in the champions league spot last year.
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Nah I wanna see Ferret annoy Gooner, Arsenals main rivals are Chelsea and Man United for the title but Spurs too for a local rivals
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Yeah take your pick of chelsea, manyoo and spurs
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fuck off, chelsea's main rivals are wigan, the game on sunday proves it!
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only on loan though. If you enjoy chinks, you should support Man City, they have Sun Jihai.
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only on loan though. If you enjoy chinks, you should support Man City, they have Sun Jihai.
Just a couple of points:

I enjoy watching great players, Nakata is a great player.

I do also enjoy pornography featuring small Chinese women of indeterminable age.
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Most fans do big up ther own teams though, its a bias opinion as they think 'o we've signed (insert player here) and he'll get us 20 goals this season, so we'll defo get into europe this year' while forgetting that they have a crap defence and no strength indepth should they get injuries.

On a seperate note, transfer news is:

Newcastle are set to put in a late bid for Fredi Kanoute who is in talks with Saville.
Carvahalio is unhappy he didnt play on sunday
Boro are in talks with Abdel Xavier
West Ham have signed David Bellion on loan.
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Most fans do big up ther own teams though, its a bias opinion as they think 'o we've signed (insert player here) and he'll get us 20 goals this season, so we'll defo get into europe this year' while forgetting that they have a crap defence and no strength indepth should they get injuries.
That sounds so much like my friend who supports spurs, I used to be like that, but then i woke up to reality.The depth of the squad is definately key, that's why teams go on good&bad runs and the top teams stay consistant through out the season. Everton got lucky last season with injuries, so that proves that most of the teams are good enough if they stay fit. I bet spurs finish 8th this season.
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Kanoute has already signed for Sevilla on a four-year deal.
Players are always unhappy when they don't play, that isn't news.
Xavier is shit.
And so is Bellion, he isn't even fit enough yet.
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Oh btw, i heard some guy turned Boro down but i can't remember his name, it was on ssnews yesterday.
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Oh btw, i heard some guy turned Boro down but i can't remember his name, it was on ssnews yesterday.
Douala from Sporting Lisbon, he put it down to not being able to play european football coz he's cup tied, roughly translated to we didnt offer enough money!

Pogatetz has finally been cleared to play for us I think, news is his 24 week ban was reduced to an 8 game ban & as the team he was playing for has played a few games and he was unavailable for the liverpool game for us, he can now play. However this is yet to be confirmed by russian fa or boro.

Is this the biggest farce ever over a ban and appeal against a ban ? It makes the Jenas decision look reasonable!

I only caught some of the England game, Im so glad I didnt see it all, we looked Shite !!!
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Nakata was the shit back in the day - hopefully he'll recreate that at Bolton even though I don't like Bolton at all.

And lol at Carvalho going off on one.
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He just finds new ways to plumb the depths doesn't he?

Still, never mind. Kenny Miller scored
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And he played probably his best game for us either. Nigel Quashie was his usually awesome self too.

It was totally worth us losing two goals in the last 7mins just so Rab Douglas NEVER plays another game for us again.
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hahaha good old Rab, and the keeper we signed as competition conceded 6 against Pompey's reserves.

Pretty abysmal from England, complete lack of passion from all but Ashley Cole and Wayne Rooney, and Joe Cole at a push.
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I've been having an argument on another forum that sven should be sacked due to the way he treats players in friendlies+ he hasn't won anything after two tournaments, and mostly they're defending him!(though a few are on my side) Fucking amazing if you ask me.We'll probably get lucky with a victory against wales, but there is a wake up call right around the corner in the qualifiers...
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I've been having an argument on another forum that sven should be sacked due to the way he treats players in friendlies+ he hasn't won anything after two tournaments, and mostly they're defending him!(though a few are on my side) Fucking amazing if you ask me.We'll probably get lucky with a victory against wales, but there is a wake up call right around the corner in the qualifiers...
Who would you get in to replace him?

Mclaren wont be any better, trust me on that, he'd prob play phil neville and nicky butt centre mid with lamdard and gerrard out wide. The guy loves playing players out of position and playing with 2 holding midfielders.

Big Sam - unkown quantity as has yet to show he has the ability to play against european opposition, has done well so far with bolton,however can he handle the pressure of dealing with a full team of big names rather than about 4-5.

Curbishley - again unkown at european level, always starts well but fails to deliver - would fit in well as england manager.

Souness - could the firey scott bring back some of his old success and would he switch aliances?

Furguson - proven, would/should be first choice, but would he leave man u to manage england - not a chance.

Pearce - would still play for england if he could, still needs to prove himself at this level first.

Coleman - always a fight against relegation, we'll leave him to take the wales job.

Hughes - trying to rebuild blackburn and make them a good a side that once won the league, did well for wales but very much doubt he would take the england job.

Benitez - Would bring some spainish knowledge to the team, not likely to leave pool so soon tho.

Mourinho - perfect choice but could he won the world cup knowing he can only use the players he has?

Moyes - has done well with everton but would rather try to turn scotland into a great team than manage england.

McCarthy - has the experience with ROI and did well, would be worth a shout to see how he does with so called better players.

Jewel - could he prove to be the 'crown jewel' in helping england to success, highly doubtful, prob wouldnt even make the short list.

Perrin - unkown, lets se how he does with pompy first.

Pardrew - Always hear that westham fans are calling for his head & he got them back in big boys league, the pressure for success is a lot greater in the england job, can he handle it?

Wenger - Has done brilliant at arsenal, defo worth a go but can he do it knowing he doesnt have any french players to bring into the team?

O'Leary - would love the opportunity to prove himself at this level, unlikely to be given the chance tho.

Bruce - never played for his country but by god he would give every moving limb in his body to be given the chance to manage them. Could possibly make the short list as an underdog.

Robson - could captain marvel return to the england fold, could he bring the success that not only he but his country crave for, very possibly he could but unfortunaty was given to hard a time after he left boro so is having to prove himself at league level again first before he will even be considered.

Jol - can the big dutch man bring success to england, the fa will wait to see what he does at spurs first.

Abramovich - what? just coz he's hasnt managed a football team before, fuck that shit, the guy could bribe fifa, allowing him to buy the brazil team, buy their citizanships for england and then put them all in white england shirts and buy us the....sorry win us the world cup, pretty much like he did at chelsea! *awaits dazz to kick off*

& the final choice has to be -

Mike Bassett England Manager - he drinks, he swears, he strips off to his underwear, he writes his england squad on the back of a fag box, he gets his players to do the 'hand of god' against the argies by god he has to be the number one choice !!!!!
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Mike Bassett England Manager - he drinks, he swears, he strips off to his underwear, he writes his england squad on the back of a fag box, he gets his players to do the 'hand of god' against the argies by god he has to be the number one choice !!!!!
You seem to have forgotten all about his christmas tree formation .

And most people you mentioned have shit all experience at good clubs or in Europe, I don't like Sven but we can't get anyone better yet.
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4-1 to Denmark? I walked out the pub with a quarter of a pint left after the 3rd goal because it was so sickening.
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that quarter of a pint would have made the 4th goal easier to take if you'd have stayed!
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My top choices would be either:

Mourinho-Only i'm not sure if he would take the job at the sametime as being chelsea manager.But he would bring the best out of the players and will no doubt give everyone a fair chance.

Alan Curbishley- Ok so he's unproven at european level, but he has done the best he can with he squad he has, that to me, is what the international job requirement should be.

Steve Bruce- I've been impressed with him as far as management goes, could be a possibilitiy.

Peter Taylor- has experience at u-21 level, ,the FA may have him in mind in future to takeover Sven.

Basically i just want someone in who can make friendlies 'meaningful' again and give everyone a fair chance.Why do you think we always collapse in the second half of friendlies?Because Sven makes so many subs it disrupts the pattern of play. He doesn't give players full 90 mins usually. he gave rooney a full 90 mins and surprise surprise he scored!If you play players for the full 90 or atleast 70-80 mins then they might actually give a shit and learn to work well as a team.That is also why we collapse in the second half of world cups/euro championships, because we have not learnt how to work well as a team through-out the match. The players would be used to being subbed at half time in an england match, and as a result most of the time they wont be used to playing the second half for england, as a team.How did Greece win the euro championships?through teamwork.Which was down to good preparation(sp?) in friendlies and actually taking notice of them.It is also good for the morale of the team if the players enjoy their football, that is something i don't see under Sven.

I think anyone is better than Sven at the moment.
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Mourinho's said before he won't manage England, only international team he'd consider would be Portugal, and even then not for a few years at least while he's still managing at a club.
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The trouble is, if they are going to replace Sven, they need to do it sooner rather than later, I agree with TL about the subs, it completly disruptes the play and what normally tends to happen is that some players will have to change position for the person coming on (therefore in effect make 2 changes for 1 sub) e.g beckham starting on the right with gerrard in the centre, sven would sub gerrard, push beckham inside to bring on wright-phillips.

The other thing that annoys me is playing players out of position, i'll use beckham as an example again, what is the point in playing him in centre mid for a friendly when he is most likely to play wide right in a competitive game (i didnt watch the game last night so dont know if it was done, however i have seen sven do this before).

I wouldnt put it past sven to start rooney in goal for a friendly because he wants to see how david james is up front. sven is that much of a dick to do something like that.

My money will be on sven to remain in charge,england at a push to make the semi's in the world cup, then sven to quit after the world cup. Then id go with the long shot of stevie bruce for manager.
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Clinton Morrison could be on his way to Norwich as they have had a £2m bid accepted. This could increase speculation that Dean Ashton is on his way out wth Wigan lining up a move for him. If I was a newcastle fan, id be demanding that souness puts a bid in for ashton, I think he'd do well up there, and no disrespect to wigan, if the guy has any ambition he'd choose newcastle as he'd be more or less guareented top flight football next season and he could learn a hell of a lot from shearer.

However with that said, I think Morrison will prob reject them as I think he will want to stay in the premiership with the world cup due. From the sound of things he's been angeling for a move to sunderland. Trouble is they have about 7 or 8 forwards there at the moment and I think now the fee is at £2m, it will be way out of there budget.
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Beckham wanders into centre midfield whether he's supposed to or not, the twat.
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Morrison is pretty much guaranteed a world cup place if Ireland get there anyway. David Connolly, probably the main alternative, had a great end to the season for us and is top scorer in the league after a few games but didn't make the squad for the Italy game despite Keane being injured, and Morrison and Eliott starting the season on the bench. Amazing.

The players have to take the bulk of the blame for last night like i say, no passion whatsoever, and if they need a coach to motivate them before pulling on an England shirt then they can fuck off. We were terrible under Hoddle and Keegan, remember that. Allardyce is probably the best English manager about but Bolton are horrible to watch, so it depends if he can adapt his style.
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Morrison is pretty much guaranteed a world cup place if Ireland get there anyway. David Connolly, probably the main alternative, had a great end to the season for us and is top scorer in the league after a few games but didn't make the squad for the Italy game despite Keane being injured, and Morrison and Eliott starting the season on the bench. Amazing.
Connolly is shit, that's why. All he has ever really been for Ireland is a liability (getting himself sent off against Belgium for stupidity, missing easy chances and a penalty against Spain in the World Cup, crying about it when he was called into a friendly squad late), whereas both Elliott and Morrison always put in excellent performances and work their balls off.

Also, Aiden McGeady is seen in the Irish set-up as a striker, that is where he played for the youth teams.
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Connolly is shit, that's why. All he has ever really been for Ireland is a liability (getting himself sent off against Belgium for stupidity, missing easy chances and a penalty against Spain in the World Cup, crying about it when he was called into a friendly squad late), whereas both Elliott and Morrison always put in excellent performances and work their balls off.

Also, Aiden McGeady is seen in the Irish set-up as a striker, that is where he played for the youth teams.
He wasn't the only player to miss a penalty against Spain, and his attitude has been fine here. I remember Elliott missed an easy chance against the Faroes too. When he's on form he is a better player than Morrison, not sure about Elliott because he did very well last season and is quite young, but even he was dropped for the back end of last season, so i don't know whether he has problems too.

I don't want to argue about it though, as you, Eoghan and Adam don't like him and probably won't change your opinion, but neither will i. If he's not wanted then i'd sooner he didn't play so he isn't risking injury anyway.

The papers are saying Newcastle have made a bid for Luque, which would be a great signing if they pulled it off.
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He wasn't the only player to miss a penalty against Spain, and his attitude has been fine here. I remember Elliott missed an easy chance against the Faroes too. When he's on form he is a better player than Morrison, not sure about Elliott because he did very well last season and is quite young, but even he was dropped for the back end of last season, so i don't know whether he has problems too.

I don't want to argue about it though, as you, Eoghan and Adam don't like him and probably won't change your opinion, but neither will i. If he's not wanted then i'd sooner he didn't play so he isn't risking injury anyway.

The papers are saying Newcastle have made a bid for Luque, which would be a great signing if they pulled it off.
His attitude stinks, and it's the entire package I am going by. I could see him being in the squad if he could be relied upon to nick a goal or score a penalty, but he's more likely to throw a strop or get sent off.

His poor attitude has followed him through his career. Morrison is a better player, too. Brings far more to the team.
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His attitude stinks, and it's the entire package I am going by. I could see him being in the squad if he could be relied upon to nick a goal or score a penalty, but he's more likely to throw a strop or get sent off.

His poor attitude has followed him through his career. Morrison is a better player, too. Brings far more to the team.
His attitude was bad, but like i say, we've had no problems with him. I don't know if he's got problems with playing for Ireland, but i've not heard anything like that being said.

Connolly gives the same effort as Morrison and is a better finisher, i'd rather have him to score in a one-on-one than Morrison, and he's a more intelligent player. It's his attitude in the past which cost him a chance of playing premiership football, Sunderland were sniffing around this summer but decided to get Andy Gray, who looked pretty average on the opening day.
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To be honest i think Sven encourages them not to give a shit about friendlies.You can see it on his face, he just doesn't care.
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Connolly is rediculous everyone went mad about him at the start when he hammered in goals against giants like Liechenstein. He never seems comfortable on the ball to me. Hopefully Elliot gets a good run in the leauge this year because we are in need of a rival to Morrison.

That Juve lad Miccoli is to decide between Benfica and Villa in the next few days. Don't really know much about him apart from him being great in Football Manager but I like the sound of really. I assume if we get him we pull out of the Baros deal and I'm fairly torn between the two really.




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Chelsea boss has hit back at Ricardo Carvalho following the defender's outburst at being omitted for the start of the new season.

Carvalho expressed his frustration at being left out of Chelsea's team in both the Community Shield and the opening Premiership fixture at Wigan.

Mourinho opted to select John Terry and William Gallas as his centre-back pairing - a decision that left Carvalho far from happy.

However, Mourinho has wasted little time in responding to the Portuguese international and insists he must be prepared to wait for his chance in The Blues' first XI given the wealth of quality in their squad.

"Ricardo Carvalho seems to have problems understanding things, maybe he should have an IQ test," Mourinho quipped to Record.

"I am not happy to have heard about this through the papers.

"Ricardo has worked with me for four years and I do not understand these quotes, he probably needs to see a doctor.

"I told the players this summer that they will need to have patience because we have a great squad and everyone needs an opportunity.

"Carvalho knows how I work, I think he is just temporarily angry but I will speak with him personally.

"We can't have this kind of thing at Chelsea."
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Morrison is on his way to Norwich for £2m. IMO that's about his level, I don't think he's a higher-tier Premiership striker. Good, but nothing special.

As for Ashton now, I dunno. Norwich don't really need to sell, but Newcastle desperately need someone and they could do a lot worse *cough*Anelka*cough* than trying to land him. It'd take about £5m or more but as a long-term investment (what is he, 22?) I'd say that's decent money.
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Some wanker at Rajah is posting that Alberto Luque is in Newcastle tonight for a medical. Smells like absolute bollocks, because Luque is actually fucking brilliant.
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that was the point I was trying to get across Dazz, I only thought id mention the premiership managers and my opinions on their credentials as England manager.

At the moment I dont think there is any intention by the FA of replacing Sven. Like I said he will be ther until after the world cup (which we wont win) and then he will prob quit rather than be sacked IMO.
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that was the point I was trying to get across Dazz, I only thought id mention the premiership managers and my opinions on their credentials as England manager.
I gotta be honest with you, I only read your post at all because my name came up in a vanity search, I didn't actually read what you put about the managers you mentioned.
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Luque, the 27-year-old Spain forward, was Souness' next target but a deal is understood to have collapsed.

Chairman Freddy Shepherd told official website www.nufc.co.uk: "We have made an offer to Deportivo La Coruna for Albert Luque.

"We are now waiting for their response which may or may not lead to the player coming to Newcastle."
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