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Old 09-18-2011, 11:10 PM   #361
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Who said anything about TNA?
I did. Just then, when I mentioned overbooking.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:12 PM   #362
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they had a pinfall finish also. Is that like watching TNA? Because WWE rarely end PPV's with clusterfucks so pinfalls are a lot more relevant in that comparison. I could understand the moaning about it if it actually was TNA and it was the 3rd clusterfuck on the show and the 11th in the month but it's not and it "made sense", wrestling is allowed to be overbooked at times, the crowd were into it and so on. Just sounds like bitching for the sake of bitching.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:12 PM   #363
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and I say again Punk came off like an idiot, why the fuck would he attack Nash, yes Nash punched him but so the fuck what, wait till he's done kicking the crap out of your opponent that you desperately want to beat, it's not in Punk's character at all to not take advantage of that. He's not the guy who wants to win it fair and square or some shit like that.
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If I wanted to watch TNA, I would.

This was poor. It really could have been a great match but it was ridiculously overbooked. I'm surprised they didn't have Del Rio and Cena come out and brawl during a lull point just to peak the audiences' interest.
That comparison is ridiculous. Del Rio and Cena have nothing to do with Punk and HHH, which definitely is NOT the case with Miz and Truth.

Miz and Truth have been taking shots at Punk and HHH for weeks, that along with the fact that it was a No DQ match makes me wonder what exactly you were expecting. Not to mention Nash and Johnny Ace, who you knew were gonna interfere regardless.
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That's fine, man. I'm glad you were. I wasn't
Yeah but I just don't get your rant. It was done to involve everybody. It's not like Miz/Truth just popped up out of nowhere and was add to this storyline tonight. They have been vocal towards it for weeks. And the rest of the people involved all have been in the storyline since Summerslam. It served it's purpose. Your just bitter about CM Punk losing to Triple H. And you don't want to come out being one of those little bitches so you try to complain about the "involvement with such and such."
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:15 PM   #366
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they had a pinfall finish also. Is that like watching TNA? Because WWE rarely end PPV's with clusterfucks so pinfalls are a lot more relevant in that comparison. I could understand the moaning about it if it actually was TNA and it was the 3rd clusterfuck on the show and the 11th in the month but it's not and it "made sense", wrestling is allowed to be overbooked at times, the crowd were into it and so on. Just sounds like bitching for the sake of bitching.
A pinfall finish after 5 other men get involved makes it alright? I'm not saying it's as bad as TNA, but after that main event it sure does feel like it.
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That comparison is ridiculous. Del Rio and Cena have nothing to do with Punk and HHH, which definitely is NOT the case with Miz and Truth.

Miz and Truth have been taking shots at Punk and HHH for weeks, that along with the fact that it was a No DQ match makes me wonder what exactly you were expecting. Not to mention Nash and Johnny Ace, who you knew were gonna interfere regardless.
Glad someone else thinks and sees it like I do.
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A pinfall finish after 5 other men get involved makes it alright? I'm not saying it's as bad as TNA, but after that main event it sure does feel like it.
Yes a pinfall finish after interference because IT WAS FUCKING NO DQ!
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:16 PM   #369
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For the record of course Miz and Truth interfering makes sense but what they did when they interfered made no sense
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and I say again Punk came off like an idiot, why the fuck would he attack Nash, yes Nash punched him but so the fuck what, wait till he's done kicking the crap out of your opponent that you desperately want to beat, it's not in Punk's character at all to not take advantage of that. He's not the guy who wants to win it fair and square or some shit like that.
you are talking semantics like it's a fucking HBO show, your gripe is seriously "it's not in Punk's character"? In a world where a former dead guy turns into a biker before being a dead guy again and a former rich guy is now a "badass" and COO of the company?
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:18 PM   #371
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Oh come on, that's a cop out response.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:18 PM   #372
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For the record of course Miz and Truth interfering makes sense but what they did when they interfered made no sense
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I can't believe a guy they book as being a crazy psycho who talks to himself did something that didn't make sense.
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I can understand that when Truth pulled CM Punk after...it confused me too...but you are looking into it tooo deep. If you look at it again, you can see he did it out of fustration and the fact that his is supposely out of his mind.
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the main gripe here appears to be "booo, Punk might not be the focal/main point/#1 guy of the story for a while". All we're missing are some vintage Trips is holding Punk down posts
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Yeah but I just don't get your rant. It was done to involve everybody. It's not like Miz/Truth just popped up out of nowhere and was add to this storyline tonight. They have been vocal towards it for weeks. And the rest of the people involved all have been in the storyline since Summerslam. It served it's purpose. Your just bitter about CM Punk losing to Triple H. And you don't want to come out being one of those little bitches so you try to complain about the "involvement with such and such."
But why did they have to physically get involved in the match? It was detrimental to the match in respect of HHH as much as it was CM Punk. I also love the way you assume I'm upset that Punk lost as if I'm a mark for him as much as I am HHH. We all pretty much knew Hunter wasn't going to lose this match anyway, I'm just annoyed in the way that they booked it and the way in which they did not allow the two guys to put on the show that we all hoped they could.
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did Punk throw Truth out of the ring when he and Triple H threw Miz and Truth out?

that makes it make sense for me
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did Punk throw Truth out of the ring when he and Triple H threw Miz and Truth out?

that makes it make sense for me
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that makes it make sense for me
It sure does it does
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Yes a pinfall finish after interference because IT WAS FUCKING NO DQ!
Yeah, you're right. TNA would probably have DQ'd Punk for that. I'm just annoyed really. I wouldn't care as much if I hadn't stayed up until 4am to watch that bollocks
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also Punk's ''quest" to oust Triple H will still probably continue
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But why did they have to physically get involved in the match? It was detrimental to the match in respect of HHH as much as it was CM Punk. I also love the way you assume I'm upset that Punk lost as if I'm a mark for him as much as I am HHH. We all pretty much knew Hunter wasn't going to lose this match anyway, I'm just annoyed in the way that they booked it and the way in which they did not allow the two guys to put on the show that we all hoped they could.
You did watch the whole match? They did put on a show...from when CM Punk took out Triple H at his spitting pose to the end.
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I didn't see the pay per view so I cannot comment on the quality of matches. However, I really am getting tired of seeing the WWE further destroy the credibility of the WWE belt.

So let me get this straight.

Raw:

Since April: Miz loses belt to Cena. Cena loses belt to Punk. *Punk leaves* Rey Mysterio wins Championship. Cena beats Mysterio. Cena loses to Punk. Punk loses to Del Rio. Del Rio loses to Cena. A title change every month?!

Smackdown:

I'm not as clear on this show as I don't watch it as much but near as I can tell...

Edge retires. Christian wins Championship...Loses to Orton one week later. Regains title one month later. Loses title back to Orton one month later. Orton loses to Henry one month later.


What credibility do these belts have when they're changing belts every 3-4 weeks? There's no need to put the belt on Cena right now. It's pathetic that at this rate, he'll have more championship "reigns" than Ric Flair within a year.
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Oh come on, that's a cop out response.
is it bollocks. It's pro wrestling, doing something a bit different or ignoring/changing something because it fits the story they're trying to put across has always been the way. If you don't like that and want to hold everything to the same standards as an HBO show, then you're never going to be happy with wrestling. Which now I think of it, makes a lot of sense/explains Lara Emily.
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You did watch the whole match? They did put on a show...from when CM Punk took out Triple H at his spitting pose to the end.
Yes. Yes, I did. And I wasn't impressed.
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just used the word oust while talking about wrestling on the internet

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Yeah, you're right. TNA would probably have DQ'd Punk for that. I'm just annoyed really. I wouldn't care as much if I hadn't stayed up until 4am to watch that bollocks
Again I didn't mention TNA. Well maybe next time don't stay up. Then you won't be annoyed for WWE not booking the WAY you like and prevent you from getting your sleep.
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Again I didn't mention TNA. Well maybe next time don't stay up. Then you won't be annoyed for WWE not booking the WAY you like and prevent you from getting your sleep.
Ha ha. I mentioned TNA you tool, I didn't say you did. I made the comparison when I brought up 'overbooking' since TNA is currently the epitome of overbooking.

I will take the advice of the mysterious Blakeamus next time and not stay up since he apparently knows what is best for me, and invalidates all of my arguments with his opinions anyway.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:35 PM   #390
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Smackdown:

I'm not as clear on this show as I don't watch it as much but near as I can tell...

Edge retires. Christian wins Championship...Loses to Orton one week later. Regains title one month later. Loses title back to Orton one month later. Orton loses to Henry one month later.
When Christian lost the belt to Randy Orton, Orton defended the title for two PPV's before getting disqualified. Then won it back and lost it to Mark Henry. So you have 3 title changes since April.

the WWE Title has had 5 title changes in the past 3 months...

I think they are doing a lot better with the WHC in this case.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:35 PM   #391
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:43 PM   #392
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Ha ha. I mentioned TNA you tool, I didn't say you did. I made the comparison when I brought up 'overbooking' since TNA is currently the epitome of overbooking.

I will take the advice of the mysterious Blakeamus next time and not stay up since he apparently knows what is best for me, and invalidates all of my arguments with his opinions anyway.
Didn't say it knowing what was best for you. But it seemed that you didn't enjoy it because of your opinion of the finish and staying up til 4 a.m. to be disappointed that WWE couldn't give you what YOU expected.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:47 PM   #393
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:48 PM   #395
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Didn't say it knowing what was best for you. But it seemed that you didn't enjoy it because of your opinion of the finish and staying up til 4 a.m. to be disappointed that WWE couldn't give you what YOU expected.
It just seems now that you want to disagree with me. So, in that respect I'm going to tell you to suck my balls. I've already said that I'm glad that you enjoyed it. I'm free to express my opinion that I didn't, and I have given my valid and just reasons why. If you still don't like what I say then GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS so I can come round and make you suck my big, hairy, cancerous balls.
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Yeah I can tell you are very happy not to be a part of them, posting on a wrestling discussion board and all....
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Ooooooh I just got back from watching this ppv and boy am I mad. Of the River lost, Punk lost, Beth Phoenix lost, miz and his partner lost. So mad. Everyone I wanted to not lose didn't not lose. Also, during the HHH/punk match, didn't it seem like the crowd was not into it all? Can't blame them though after all the suck
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It just seems now that you want to disagree with me. So, in that respect I'm going to tell you to suck my balls. I've already said that I'm glad that you enjoyed it. I'm free to express my opinion that I didn't, and I have given my valid and just reasons why. If you still don't like what I say then GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS so I can come round and make you suck my big, hairy, cancerous balls.
Yes. I disagree with you. I'm not trying to change your opinion. You are giving your points and I'm giving mine. It's called a discussion. Nothing more, nothing less. But now you want to be a jackass and talk about making me suck your balls? You sir, are a complete waste of sperm.
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Yes. I disagree with you. I'm not trying to change your opinion. You are giving your points and I'm giving mine. It's called a discussion. Nothing more, nothing less. But now you want to be a jackass and talk about making me suck your balls? You sir, are a complete waste of sperm.
Are you going to GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS or not? I'm going to asphyxiate your mother with my balls, because you sir are you faggot. I'm six foot ten and I'm going to rape your eye sockets.
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You are trying to hard man...give it up.
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