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Old 07-13-2016, 11:17 AM   #361
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I want NXT HHH to finally show up on the main roster, as the guy who just wants the new talent to succeed and mimics Nakamura's entrance
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Old 07-13-2016, 11:21 AM   #362
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Isn't WWE's roster already big enough without countless past names returning?
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Old 07-13-2016, 11:59 AM   #363
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Busted Open counted the # of active wrestlers who got airtime (not just matches) on RAW like..2 weeks ago and it was 36. Didn't include guys like Lesnar Reigns Orton..or the USOs..
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Old 07-13-2016, 01:18 PM   #364
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Really hope the "Shining Stars" have their debut match next week only to be split up by the draft.
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Old 07-13-2016, 01:35 PM   #365
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WWE Network to present WWE Draft Center Live simultaneously with SmackDown Live’s WWE Draft

As if the WWE Draft on SmackDown Live’s Tuesday night premiere on USA Network July 19 wasn’t big enough, the WWE Universe will also be able to watch a special WWE Draft Center Live second screen experience at 8/7 C — exclusively on WWE Network — as well as a SmackDown Live Pre-Show at 7/6 C across all digital platforms. Then, following all the exciting Draft action, there will be a Network exclusive SmackDown Post-Show at 10/9 C to break down all the events of the evening.
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:11 PM   #366
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Really hope the "Shining Stars" have their debut match next week only to be split up by the draft.
They already had a debut match, right?
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Old 07-13-2016, 03:37 PM   #367
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They already had a debut match, right?
sorry i meant to put debut in quotes.
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:20 AM   #368
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Old 07-14-2016, 02:57 PM   #369
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I do wonder if any tag teams will be split up. I'd kinda hate to see that because they've started to build the division back up a bit, but they alluded on commentary this week that it could happen.

I'd rather all teams be drafted as units, but if they have to I guess they could just split up a few inconsequential teams to put across the "randomness" of the draft. Like have The Ascension split up or something, or have one of the Social Outcasts can go solo.

Maybe have Luke Harper end up on a different show from the rest of the Wyatts so that when he returns he can be a solo act. I'd also say splitting the Dudleyz so Bubba can actually be his Bully Ray character could be interesting but they probably decided to be a package deal.
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Stop trying to take Luke Harper away from Bray. Luke is not ready to go solo and woukd instantly be lost in the mid card shuffle.

They will split the Shining Stars and act like it's a huge deal.

I could see Steph being like, oh so you drafted Kalisto I am taking Sin Cara or some crap like that.
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Old 07-14-2016, 03:49 PM   #371
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I want NXT HHH to finally show up on the main roster, as the guy who just wants the new talent to succeed and mimics Nakamura's entrance


He could be WWE's Shang Tsung, cutting the lights and morphing into Nakamura/Balor/Bayley etc.
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Old 07-14-2016, 04:22 PM   #372
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Stop trying to take Luke Harper away from Bray. Luke is not ready to go solo and woukd instantly be lost in the mid card shuffle.

They will split the Shining Stars and act like it's a huge deal.

I could see Steph being like, oh so you drafted Kalisto I am taking Sin Cara or some crap like that.
Harper is excellent. I have no doubts whatsoever about him thriving on his own.

Good call on the Lucha Dragons though. With them jobbing to Breezango lately I think that they might just be trying to cash in on the team before splitting them up. It gives each show a masked Hispanic wrestler and Kalisto will only keep getting held back having Sin Cara there.
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Old 07-14-2016, 04:37 PM   #373
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Did Harper thrive on his own last time?
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Old 07-14-2016, 04:44 PM   #374
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He 100% has the ability to but let his character build up to something giving him depth when he does go solo.
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Old 07-15-2016, 03:18 AM   #376
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The Wyatt Family feel dead in the water to me. They have for ages. I'd rather see Bray drafted on his own with The Wyatt Family being left as servants of Luke Harper. Or they can be released and Harper can become disciple of Seth Rollins.
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Old 07-15-2016, 03:19 AM   #377
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Good teams will be split up in the draft, but shitty teams will be forced to stay together.
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Old 07-15-2016, 03:46 AM   #378
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He won the IC Championship so he was the most successful Wyatt ever.
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:38 AM   #379
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The Wyatt Family feel dead in the water to me. They have for ages. I'd rather see Bray drafted on his own with The Wyatt Family being left as servants of Luke Harper. Or they can be released and Harper can become disciple of Seth Rollins.
I think Bray's injury ca.e at a good time. If they win this fued with New Day it should get them momentum going. Especially if they keep doing cool segments like last week st the compound.
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That was such a random title win for Luke Harper.
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RAW and SmackDown won’t be the only shows affected by WWE’s Brand Split. According to sources, WWE’s minor shows will also find themselves split across brand lines following the Draft next week.

According to reports, Superstars will be aligned with RAW and Main Event will be aligned with SmackDown following the Draft. As such, only talent from that brand will be booked on the shows just like RAW and SmackDown.

The WWE Draft goes down next Tuesday on the SmackDown’s live debut on USA Network.
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Old 07-15-2016, 02:33 PM   #382
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I figured they would become the new Heat and Velocity in terms of brand alignment. Makes sense.
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I think Bray's injury ca.e at a good time. If they win this fued with New Day it should get them momentum going. Especially if they keep doing cool segments like last week st the compound.
It would be awesome for The Wyatts to finally win in a good feud. I have zero faith, however, that it happens.
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:10 PM   #384
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I think it will happen. New Day has to lose eventually and the tag belts need to transition to Enzo and Cass fairly soon imo. Would be perfect for the two sheep people to take the belts and turn around and lose them to Enzo and Cass.
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New Day probably should have dropped the belts to Gallows & Anderson before this feud with The Wyatts. Enzo & Cass could have their eyes on the prize while New Day fight over something personal.
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I think we'll be getting a Bayley vs. Paige program coming out of Battleground. My guess is that Sasha calls up Bayley to be her partner, they win, Paige gets jealous, and after the split, Paige ends up on the same show with Bayley and beats her down. Sasha and Charlotte end up in the same realm to continue their program.
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Then when Total Divas returns Paige will randomly turn face again and drop all character development/personality.
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Old 07-15-2016, 09:23 PM   #388
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Recent plans according to the Obsevrer for the new Brand Split.

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For Smackdown on Tuesday, the idea for the second screen experience is to get talent reactions and do interviews. Right now Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman are not scheduled for Tuesday's show. Originally Lesnar was announced and advertised. He has been pulled from all advertising. They will be doing a ton of shooting all day for a potential WWE network backstage documentary.
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There is talk of bringing back more enhancement matches on television and using locals, both men and women in WWE. Not sure if it's for B show or A shows or how often, but the key is to have some experience and look in shape.
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Then when Total Divas returns Paige will randomly turn face again and drop all character development/personality.
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Right, so I’ve been advocating for the draft to return for ages so with it happening next week I guess I should go ahead and make some predictions. They really haven’t given a whole lot of information about how the draft will work and who will be eligible, but they’ve been hinting at teams potentially being split up which leads me to believe that they won’t be drafted together with the possible exception of The New Day.

Speaking of them, they also haven’t said if champions will be eligible or not. My gut instinct tells me that at minimum the WWE Champion, Women’s Champion, and Tag Team Champions will float between brands. But with the rumors of there being two World Champions again, they’d need to come up with some weird loophole like they did in 2002 to lock the champion onto one show. Also all of the promo materials in the lead up have implied that everybody is eligible, so I’ll go with that.

The original draft show featured each show making 10 picks with the rest being conducted via lottery after the show. I’m thinking it’ll be something similar if only because it’s tough for me to imagine every jobber on the roster getting picked on TV. 10 picks per brand on the live SmackDown, and then a lottery will take place on the WWE Network after.

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Shane and Steph squabble over who should get to pick first, knowing full well there is only one World Champion. Vince, somewhat surprisingly, awards the first pick to SmackDown to try to let the new live show hit the ground running only to then turn right around and tell Stephanie she’ll get to make two picks in a row immediately after.

This means that WWE Champion Dean Ambrose is drafted to SmackDown with the first pick of the draft while Stephanie takes Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns, stating this gives her brand the best chance at claiming the WWE Championship at Battleground. I expect that to happen, and the now title-less SmackDown will bring back either a blue version of the WWE Championship or the Big Gold Belt.

SmackDown’s second selection is none other than John Cena, marking his first night as a SmackDown-exclusive wrestler since 2005. Raw counters with Brock Lesnar, who the announcers on Raw hinted was eligible and is a huge draw despite his sporadic appearances. Shane drafts AJ Styles, bringing his rivalry with Cena to the blue brand. Raw then takes Randy Orton, meaning the buildup to his SummerSlam clash with Lesnar will take place exclusively on Raw.

Given the competitive nature of the two brands, it would be logical for there to be a run on titles, right? Well…logic doesn’t always prevail in WWE land, but let’s do it anyway. The New Day dance their way over to SmackDown. Charlotte is selected by the Raw brand. Rusev is tabbed for SmackDown, and finally The Miz goes to Raw. SmackDown has three titles to Raw’s two, but that will be changed once Rollins or Reigns wins the WWE Championship. If they are hellbent on keeping the shows totally separate, Raw can add its own set of Tag Team Titles again. SmackDown, rather than having its own Women’s Champion, will eventually can bring back the Cruiserweight Championship and use the CWC as a pipeline for new talent.

Sami Zayn is Shane’s next pick, which means the only logical counter would be Kevin Owens going to Raw to build their Battleground match as a final encounter (although I somehow, someway doubt this will be their last meeting and that they will “fight forever”).

Just flying through the next few picks, Chris Jericho to SmackDown to give them another veteran presence. Cesaro to Raw to help work some long matches to fill the three hour telecast. Baron Corbin to SmackDown which gives the rookie a rub just for being drafted in the first place. Apollo Crews to Raw for much the same reason. Sheamus to SmackDown because, let’s face it, WWE don’t want Sheamus to be viewed as irrelevant enough to not get picked at all.

Stephanie’s final selection is Bray Wyatt, meaning he won’t be tormenting the New Day anymore after Battleground (and after that horrible Final Deletion ripoff, that’s probably for the better). Shane wraps up his draft with Big Cass, again making a rookie seem like a really big deal but also giving a reason for people to tune in to the lottery on the WWE Network to see if Enzo will stay with him.

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Yeah, I can’t be fucked with going through the whole roster since so many of these midcarders are interchangeable at the moment. I will say that it makes sense for Darren Young to go to Raw and Zack Ryder to SmackDown so that they’ll be on the same show as the guys they’re facing at Battleground, meaning one or both of those stories can continue after the PPV as needed.

In terms of tag teams Enzo stays on SmackDown with Cass, and Anderson/Gallows are on SmackDown as well to stay as AJ’s backups. I think most of the teams will stick together on one show or another but they’ll have a few token breakups just to put across the randomness of the draft. The Lucha Dragons are probably the “big” split with Kalisto going to SmackDown and Sin Cara to Raw. This kinda leaves nothing for Sin Cara to do with no tag team partner and no Cruiserweight Title, but he’s pushing 40 and the character in general has flopped so I think he’s just holding Kalisto back at this point. I still wouldn’t mind Luke Harper going to SmackDown with the rest of the Wyatt Family being on Raw.

Most of the women conveniently end up on Raw where the Women’s Championship is. If they do put any women on SmackDown, I’d just pick someone like Emma who is injured and will be out for a while so it’ll look like a random draft pick but they can figure out what to do with her later and it will also keep her on the same show as Ryder. I guess Alberto Del Rio would be assigned to Raw too to stay with Paige.
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Draft Rules revealed:

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With this Tuesday's WWE Draft on the premiere of SmackDown Live on USA Network fast approaching, WWE.com answers the biggest questions of the WWE Universe with a breakdown of the official rules, regulations and procedures for one of the biggest nights in WWE history — including a major update that will change the face of NXT as well.

The rules for the WWE Draft are as follows:

Raw has the first overall pick
Since SmackDown Live is a two-hour show and Raw is three hours, for every two picks SmackDown Live receives, Raw will receive three picks
Tag Teams count as one pick unless a Commissioner/General Manager specifically only wants one member of the team
Six draft picks will be made off the NXT roster
The list of current WWE Superstars eligible for the WWE Draft will be as follows:

Male Superstars

AJ Styles
Alberto Del Rio
Apollo Crews
Baron Corbin
Big Show
Braun Strowman
Bray Wyatt
Brock Lesnar
Cesaro
Chris Jericho
Darren Young (w/ Bob Backlund)
Dean Ambrose – WWE Champion
Demon Kane
Dolph Ziggler
Erick Rowan
Jack Swagger
John Cena
Kalisto
Kevin Owens
Mark Henry
Neville
Randy Orton
Roman Reigns
Rusev (w/ Lana) – United States Champion
Sami Zayn
Seth Rollins
Sheamus
Sin Cara
The Miz (w/ Maryse) – Intercontinental Champion
Titus O’Neil
Zack Ryder

Tag Teams

Breezango (Fandango and Tyler Breeze)
Enzo and Cass (Enzo Amore and Big Cass)
Gallows and Anderson (Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson)
Golden Truth (Goldust and R-Truth)
Shining Stars (Epico and Primo)
Social Outcasts (Bo Dallas, Curtis Axel and Heath Slater)
The Ascension (Konnor and Viktor)
The Dudley Boyz (Bubba Ray and D-Von Dudley)
The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods) – Tag Team Champions
The Usos (Jey and Jimmy Uso)
The Vaudevillains (Aiden English and Simon Gotch)

Female Superstars

Alicia Fox
Becky Lynch
Charlotte – WWE Women’s Champion
Dana Brooke
Eva Marie
Naomi
Natalya
Paige
Sasha Banks
Summer Rae
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Interesting that the Wyatt Family are not considered a team. Could be an oversight, unless Braun Strowman is going off on his own which feels like a terrible idea. The Lucha Dragons aren't listed as a team either, although they seemed like the most likely to split.

Also @ Demon Kane. Could leave the door open for Corporate Kane as GM.
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Six off NXT, eh?

Finn Balor
Bayley
American Alpha (unsure if this would count as one or two under these rules)
Samoa Joe
Alexa Bliss
The Revival (if tag teams count as one pick)
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Six off NXT, eh?

Finn Balor
Bayley
American Alpha (unsure if this would count as one or two under these rules)
Samoa Joe
Alexa Bliss
The Revival (if tag teams count as one pick)
Replace Alexa Bliss with Nia Jax or Asuka and you have it, I think.
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This should be a spoiler warning that Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins or Roman Reigns will be the first draft pick, depending on whoever Stephanie McMahon or her General Manager feels has the best chance of being the WWE Champion after Battleground.
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Reigns is so getting demoted to the B show. Rollins and Ambrose stay on Raw.

Wish they would just have left the entire Womens division on Raw instead of giving Raw more draft picks.
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Shoot. Maybe Cena ends up on Raw now with Reigns being demoted. Rollins and Cena on Raw? Hell I can't wait for draft night.
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How long til Smackdown is 3 hours
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Well, nothing soon since Raw will have a lot more wrestlers. Smackdown won't have enough to fill 3 hours.
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