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Old 09-23-2022, 04:44 PM   #1
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That's just how aging goes for some people. Sitting at home for a few years didnt help matters. They say the no.1 killer of old people is retirement. Doing nothing breaks you down fast.
I’ve seen it happen. It’s horrible.
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Old 09-23-2022, 03:48 PM   #2
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Absolutely. My grandpa swore the worst decision he ever made was to retire. He said it was all downhill from there and that it was fast.
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Old 09-23-2022, 04:45 PM   #3
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No joke though — Paige could end up running that company.
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Old 09-23-2022, 04:47 PM   #4
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You know how there were the outlandish rumors Vince McMahon sent Vince Russo to WCW as a double agent? My pick for a Trojan horse in AEW would be Paige.
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Old 09-23-2022, 05:40 PM   #5
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You really havent circumvented any of the issues there. You've created a frame work that work inside the issues but they remain all the same.

He cant work regularly so you cant safely set up anything beyond 1 match. So nothing long term. Every match he does needs to bookend itself. Because of this putting him over only devalues the guy he's working since Punk cant trade that momentum to someone else on the card. So you put him under. How many times can you do that before any value he might have had is well and truly gone? 5 times in a row max. If the Undertaker we're to job every match for 2.5 years at the end of the run the crowd would tune out. Its a long time to be a loser.

So: Put him over and you hurt a guy for nothing. He goes under and at some point people sleep through his matches. The guy isnt exactly Andre the Giant. His novelty has a much shorter leash.
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Old 09-23-2022, 06:27 PM   #6
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You really havent circumvented any of the issues there. You've created a frame work that work inside the issues but they remain all the same.

He cant work regularly so you cant safely set up anything beyond 1 match. So nothing long term. Every match he does needs to bookend itself. Because of this putting him over only devalues the guy he's working since Punk cant trade that momentum to someone else on the card. So you put him under. How many times can you do that before any value he might have had is well and truly gone? 5 times in a row max. If the Undertaker we're to job every match for 2.5 years at the end of the run the crowd would tune out. Its a long time to be a loser.

So: Put him over and you hurt a guy for nothing. He goes under and at some point people sleep through his matches. The guy isnt exactly Andre the Giant. His novelty has a much shorter leash.
1 match at a time might be a bit dramatic. I get where you’re coming from though in that it is way safer to plan for 1 match, which is an obstacle but not one that you absolutely can’t get past. That’s what I meant with the teaming with guys. In the case he does go over someone, that decision can be the trigger point for the losing wrestler to change direction. If Punk gets hurt, you just wait until next time. But if he’s not hurt, you can go into the next program right away.

It’s not ideal, I’ll give you that. I’m not sure if even Punk will go for it (love him or hate him, he seems like someone who does want his programs to be full). I just don’t think it’s an impossibility. It’s good cause to move past him if you were looking for a reason though lol.
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Old 09-23-2022, 06:33 PM   #7
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He can’t be the A1 guy anymore. I totally agree with that. I wouldn’t even be interested in that if he weren’t falling apart. I’m way more interested in personal program 3rd from the top Punk.
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Old 09-23-2022, 10:51 PM   #9
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Old 09-23-2022, 11:45 PM   #12
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Nash was having a bit of fun on his podcast. He sorta was sympathizing in a way when he extrapolated further. But also, Nash is going on about being 55 in the ring. The dude didn’t exactly work a physically demanding style. Punk might not be a super athlete but he’s putting himself through the wringer more than Nash ever did.
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Nash was having a bit of fun on his podcast. He sorta was sympathizing in a way when he extrapolated further. But also, Nash is going on about being 55 in the ring. The dude didn’t exactly work a physically demanding style. Punk might not be a super athlete but he’s putting himself through the wringer more than Nash ever did.
I agree. Whatever you think about Punk, you can’t say that he’s lazy. The guy has really tried to make a run of things. Is his body holding up? Well, he’s had two injuries. He might decide to work smarter and not harder (I personally wouldn’t fault him for that), but you can’t say the guy didn’t give being a workhorse north of 40 a go.
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