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Old 02-16-2005, 10:40 PM   #1
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Yeah totems need to be nerfed. I mean by the time I'm getting attacked and drop the 3 that I need I have 3/4 health and almost half my mana gone. Then by that time I need to buff up real quick and do a couple quick heals and by the time I'm ready to fight I have 1/4 mana and a quick frost shock gets rid of that. Maybe overpowered if I gank but I'm hardly nothing against rouges, mages aren't much against me I'll give you that, I can take pallys now, before they were a bitch, and now that I'm about to be immune to fear sometimes (having nothing to with being shaman) I'll be able to take that. I don't see how overpowered really. I mean really.




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Old 02-16-2005, 10:48 PM   #2
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LOL what. Mages are generally one of the few classes most Shaman fear, and with good reason. Other than Frost Shock, Shaman are kinda easy for me to kill now.
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Old 02-16-2005, 10:51 PM   #3
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It's not that hard if you drop a grounding totem and have earth shock ready. They deal massive damage but if I have enough mana to keep earth shocking then I can usually get them down or kill them. ES, GT, etc can usually block a lot of spells. After I'm out of mana though it's quite hard.
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Old 02-16-2005, 11:16 PM   #4
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Wait till lvl 60ish when your frost shock does 1k+ damage with crit.. that with a slow effect is going to be impossible to deal with.
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Old 02-16-2005, 11:18 PM   #5
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Everyone is better at 60. That doesn't mean we're overpowered.
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Old 02-16-2005, 11:35 PM   #6
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I honestly can't believe you still havn't admitted that shamans are overpowered. Other classes get nerfed, and the only thing that happened to shamans so far is that earthbind totem got a longer cooldown. I'm sure RDD can agree with me that shamans are -the most powerful- class in the game. Yes, they can be killed, but very scarcely, and only by -very- skilled players.
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Old 02-16-2005, 11:36 PM   #7
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Old 02-16-2005, 11:38 PM   #8
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And of course he will say so, he stated that easlier in the thread. I'm not saying their overpowered, but they aren't as powerful as you're making them out to be.
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Shaman are a class that, without any skill, are kinda crappy. A Shaman in good hands will beat pretty much any other skilled player playing another class. They're great at deleeing melee damage, and with mail armor are still good tanks. Their nukes aren't as potent as a Mage's, but still sufficient. And don't give me anything about running out of mana fast... my friend's Shaman (well not really my friend but someone I know ) has over 5k life and 4k mana, unbuffed. The highest rank of FS costs 430 mana, and that's assuming you never gain Clearcasting (which you only need 1 talent to get, as opposed to the 5 it takes Mages). True, if you're just a noob and you just spam FS every 6 seconds (5 with talent), and heal when necessary, then you'll probably lose quite a bit of duels. Shaman is a lethal class when played right, as opposed to say Rogues, who even kids with down syndrome can play effectively. So yeah, Shaman are 'over-powered', but only if they know what they're doing. They have pretty much all the benefits of any other class [nuking, healing, tanking], with very few of the sacrifices that other classes are restricted to.

I dunno, they're not as bad as they seemed a couple months ago, but that's simply because my perspective changed and I can rape most Shaman relatively easy now. *shrug*
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Old 02-16-2005, 11:52 PM   #10
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I only have 2k mana barely and I don't have my clearcasting skill so it's kind of difficult for me sometimes. But yes, that does help a lot.

And I never said they weren't overpowered, it's just everyone says that they are so why should I go around repeating everyone. I won't complain if they get nerfed because it's not a big deal to meal. I picked shaman because I liked to spell cast, melee, and be able to solo as much as I could.
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Old 02-17-2005, 11:23 PM   #11
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:39 PM   #12
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Old 02-22-2005, 04:10 PM   #13
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lol, I remeber being all hyped on dual wielding when I wasn't at lvl20, but stuck with 2 hand swords :P God, I really need to hit lvl 40, 33 lvls down 7 more to go. The previous stated message is why Deathwing must stop going down!
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Old 02-23-2005, 01:15 AM   #17
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Got up to level 38 (close to 39) with my Night Elf Hunter just 2 weeks ago.. But then I stupidly deleted him.. :[ Created a new char.. Night Elf Rogue.. and in the two weeks.. I've got him to level 30.

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lol, you serious, I haven't even had WoW a month yet. If I hadn't started that damn druid of mine, i'd be at 40 already
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Old 02-23-2005, 09:55 AM   #19
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I've had it for about a month and a half and I'm up to 49. I would probably be higher if I had quests and wasn't grinding for the past 4 levels or so.
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Hahahha

So yesterday I was just in West Plaguelands farming some runecloth (huge ass bag order ), and I'm killing the 4 skele mobs outside the Crypt in Sorrow Hill. Some 58 shaman comes up to me once I'm done (and at like 300 life and 500 mana) and kills me. Then he spams his stupid ass macro:

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Translates to: "I remember you when I was lvl 24"

So anyway, I walk back, and being no coward, I rez next to him and take him head on. I get him down to about 10-20% life (not bad considering I was totally unbuffed and had half life/mana) then died. He spams his macro again.

I call RBM over (who happens to be nearby). The shaman sees RBM, whos only level 52 at the time so he must be thinking it's easy pickings so he goes after him. I rez behind him, and rape ensues. Of course, being the oh-so-clever guy that I am, started spamming:

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Yeah same

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Agreed! Tho, they do add like, triple the amount of AC. and since i'm a warrior, I could technically use it but, nah, 2 handed swords are better
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ok, I installed that cosmos thing, but when I go in the menus of it, I get all these not found error messages

I might just ditch it since it seems blizzard is implementing extra icon bars
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Yeah probably just best to wait until the next content patch... but then, knowing Blizzard, that might not be a great idea. It'll be nice though, pretty much rendering Cosmos useless.

Tabards are okay, I guess. I dunno, if you really like the guild and all then go for it. It's not a huge deal.
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I just joined one of the largest guild on our server. A total of 273 people, with anywhere from 20-50 or 60 people online at a time. Surprisingly, there's not much spam, and there are very few idiots in it (none that I've seen so far) and everyone is awesome with helping the lower lvls.

Just hit 20, and 21 today on my warrior.. I'm loving it. Been playing hardcore lately.. Finished Wailing Caverns with the help of a RL friend of mine and his 50 rogue..
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:19 AM   #32
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Also. Tabards are pretty cool... plus, you get to keep it no matter what guild you're in. It automatically changes for whatever the tabard is in each guild. Ours is black with a skull and crossbones.. Guild name is Necro Horde. I actually saw an undead guy yesterday that looked -just like- a pirate.. I was like "wtf.. lol.. that's awesome"
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:24 AM   #33
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I dunno, I would hate joining a random guild. IMO the entire purpose of a guild is to play with people you like and enjoy being around. I'd rather be in a 20-30 person guild with only a handful of 60s (gee, that sounds familiar ) that I really have fun with, than a 300+ person guild who are doing MC runs and the such every week, that I have no idea who 2/3 the members are. I dunnnnno I'm still new to this MMO stuff
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:36 AM   #34
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I agree Road rog. I was in Ravens of Stormwind on Azgalor, the biggest server on their for alliance. Has a total of like 265 people, and I hated it.

Rejoined a guild with a guy we know personally and we keep the max at 40.

It doesnt really change with different games, its always just personal preference. I like the guilds smaller because I dont have to learn new people all the time, I get to keep track of everything, and I can manage it better because of the small amount of people. That and 40 is the max you need for any large raid in this game currently. We have done MC a few times, but have yet to do Onyxia yet.

No guild on our server has tried Onyxia yet, any of you guys done it?
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:39 AM   #35
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Our guild personally hasn't. A horde guild on Archimonde, Discordia, killed Onyxia about a week ago. Big thread about it on the Archi forum. AFAIK no Alliance guilds on Archi are even close. There's Dogma, WMD, and Misfits, but they're too busy chipping away at MC. I don't believe anybody other than Discordia has killed Onyxia on our server
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Old 02-28-2005, 11:46 AM   #36
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I've seen that event so many times on Deathwing. Granted, I get aggroed from like, the middle of the ramp in sw keep by the damn dragon garuds. I have yet to do it, being only lvl35 and all.

Yeah, big guilds suck. Unless your the leader, the guild i'm in only has 33 members, and 8 of them are complete morons
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Old 02-28-2005, 09:03 PM   #37
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I had a quality guild on Gorefiend. It was two seperate groups of friends that had combined to form the basis. I just happened to hit it off with the group and so for a good bit everyone knew everyone and we recruited maybe once a week so that the new member got the majority of the attention. Then all the sudden everyone wanted something huge, so we disolved with 3 other small-med guilds into one giant one. I haven't liked it much since. I don't really like joking around in guild chat cause we merged with a bunch of smartasses and little kids. So I started some new horde guy on a server called Uldam cause some of my buddies from work were just starting out.

So long story short . . not a fan of large guilds.
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Old 02-28-2005, 09:07 PM   #38
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Also wanted to say even though alot of people think its puss. I've tried a normal server and I like it a good bit. Gives you a chance to get established and level, and still be able to fight it out if you want to. The only difference I see is that you're not at the mercy of the same 10 retards that sit around in Desolace and Stanglehorn griefing all day because they've ran out of stuff to do at lvl 60.

You still get flagged for PVP the second you attack an NPC of the opposite faction, or set your flag to PVP. But have the freedom to go about doing your missions if you want also.
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Old 02-28-2005, 09:58 PM   #39
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I love the guild I'm in.. they've got good structure/rules, and they're all really helpful. I've been helped out with some quests randomly by some of the higher lvls, and I helped out a low lvl guy with a quest I did a long time ago. Plus, I really want to do the end-game, and I know the only way it's gonna be possible is with a guild that can actually get 40 people on at the same time for a scheduled raid. Not gonna be possible at all in a lower guild, or if it is, it won't be possible nearly as often.
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:05 PM   #40
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Tony and I and our guild did a bit of raiding of Grom Gol in STV today and then we moved onto the place in 1k needles. We basically only had 12-15 that were lvl 48+ along (a few lowers came a bit later on) and it was tons of fun. Slaughtered so many horde yesterday. We aren't big enough or high enough to do any major damage yet, but we're getting a feel for the PVP raids.
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