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Old 11-19-2007, 03:28 PM   #361
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Wow, I'm surprised they'd deal Orlando Cabrera, especially for a mediocre Jon Garland.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:38 PM   #362
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Jon Garland is overrated and shitty, and Cabrera is a good hitter. Bad move by the Angels.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:46 PM   #363
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Word going around is that even though Orlando Cabrera might be going out, Miguel Cabrera might be coming in. Angels are still the front runners right now.

Red Sox and Yankees are out of the running.
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Word going around is that even though Orlando Cabrera might be going out, Miguel Cabrera might be coming in. Angels are still the front runners right now.

Red Sox and Yankees are out of the running.
I've heard Dodgers are leading that bidding. Florida wants Kemp, Kershaw and LaRoche though, which is an insane amount.
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Greg Maddux and the Padres agreed to a 1 year $10 million deal.
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I think the Angels got the better of that Garland/Cabrera deal, tbh. Nothing at all wrong with what Cabrera did, I'd be happy to have him on my team, but pitching is more an asset. You can get a SS on the F/A pretty cheap, plus the Angels are pretty deep in IF's on their team and farm system.
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Yeah that would be true if Garland was a good pitcher
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I really wish Lowell was more greedy.
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Yeah that would be true if Garland was a good pitcher

yeah 2 18 win seasons before last season = is shitty. pitching over or @ 200+ innings a year the last 6 years = is shitty.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:15 AM   #373
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Dunno, would rather have a .300 hitter with a Gold Glove then a 4.3something ERA.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:18 AM   #374
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My argument against Garland being good is that his ERA was not great the past 2 seasons, his K's are always very low, and his BAA is around .270-90 range. He had the wins in 05 and 06, but I think 05 was a career year for him unfortunately.
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Easier to get a .280 hitter than a 200 inning pitcher. IMO
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He's not just a .280 hitter, he's also a gold glove defender at a premium position.

I think they're going to push hard for Cabrera now. This trade makes Ervin Santana more expendable.
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Rollins wins NL MVP

God dammit...
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:11 PM   #379
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I don't get it. Most of the writers said that Utley and Howard also could have won it.

If your team has 3 MVP candidates isn't it obvious none of them should win it?
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Your 2008 MLB draft line-up is as follows:

FIRST ROUND
1. Devil Rays
2. Pirates
3. Royals
4. Orioles
5. Giants
6. Marlins
7. Reds
8. White Sox
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11. Rangers
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20. Mariners
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The Devil Rays with that first pick almost every year it seems have to eventually get better with all of that talent being put into their system.....or not.
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Some news and notes.

Cleveland Indians sign free agent Japanese closer Masahide Kobayashi to a 6.25 million, two-year contract.

White Sox cut OF Scott Podsednik

The Mets might have solved their catcher problem. Trading away Pitcher Guillermo Mota for Johnny Estrada of the Brewers.
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Get that piece of shit Mota off the team
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I don't get it. Most of the writers said that Utley and Howard also could have won it.

If your team has 3 MVP candidates isn't it obvious none of them should win it?
Both of them missed significant time though.
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What the fuck?

The Rockies are getting the shaft here
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Jimmy Rollins is the NL MVP. I was expecting Holiday, but Rollins had an amazing season as well.

The Mets made a great deal in acquiring Johnny Estrada. All they gave up is Guillermo Mota. Amazing deal, they dump Mota and get a better catcher than Lo Duca and Torrealba. Plus it's a one year commitment. Big time win.

Brewers replaced Estrada with Jason Kendall. He's on the decline but still decentish.

Indians signed the Japanese closer Kobayashi. They're looking at him as a setup man for Joe Borowski, though I think either he, Betancourt or Rafael Perez will eventually take over closing duties. Either way, great pickup and makes the Indians bullpen even stronger.
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Some late news and notes.

Phillies and a few other teams are interested in Kris Benson.

All signs point to Torii Hunter inking a deal with the Rangers within this week or next.

Cardinals reopened talks with David Eckstein. He's looking for something in the 4-year 36-40 mil. range.
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All signs point to Torii Hunter inking a deal with the Rangers within this week or next.
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:20 AM   #390
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Yeah didn't he sign with the Angels?
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Yes he did. Doesn't Gary Matthews Jr play for the Angles though?
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:10 AM   #392
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O Gary Matthews can DH.

Another reason why the DH is awsome
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:57 AM   #393
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White Sox sign Linebrink to a 4-year, $19 million deal

lol stupid White Sox. I bet I could get a 4-year deal in this market
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:10 PM   #394
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Matthews won't DH, he has a great glove. Garrett Anderson will probably DH and Matthews will move to left.
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Matthews won't DH, he has a great glove. Garrett Anderson will probably DH and Matthews will move to left.
That's still great
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Yeah didn't he sign with the Angels?
Torii Hunter signed with the Angels for 5 years, $90 million. Way too much money for him if you ask me.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:36 AM   #397
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Come on Dodgers get Cabrera.
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I think the Angels will get Cabrera. They have all the trade chips needed now that they have a pitching excess and a shitload of great young position players.
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As expected, Johan declined the 5-year, $93 million extension and then said he wanted $126 million instead...which is the exact same amount Barry Zito got.

Good lord.
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The Royals were in on the Torii Hunter sweepstakes. But since they didn't win, their top target right now is Jose Guillen.

Royals also have a deal all squared away for Japanese pitcher Yasuhiko Yabuta. A 2-year 5-6 mil. deal with a club option for 2010.
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