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Old 09-11-2012, 02:57 AM   #401
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Wow let's hope I never collapse near Michael Cole the company man
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:24 AM   #402
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WWE accomplished what it wanted because CM Punk vs Cena will be awesome (they have amazing chemistry) and I honestly don't know who will win. NoC should be a good show.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:51 AM   #403
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It's obvious Owen wanted to have a conversation with his friend Jerry.
then revived him Owen still haunts the arena didn't you know?

I also think Bret Hart is cursed.
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Old 09-11-2012, 06:55 AM   #404
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It's obvious Owen wanted to have a conversation with his friend Jerry.
then revived him Owen still haunts the arena didn't you know?

I also think Bret Hart is cursed.
Why would Owen haunt an arena over 1000 miles away from his death scene?
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:13 AM   #405
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I guess this means Lawler won't have any matches anymore if he ever comes back. Hopefully they can get JBL back to do announcing again.
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:25 AM   #406
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Well in this day and age, with cameras on pretty much everything and internet access everywhere you go, there's no surprise that there's videos now appearing online of the incident.
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:33 AM   #407
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Beast promo by Cena; turned the crowd around completely. Really strong by Punk as well. Pretty entertaining RAW even if it went flat after the Lawler situation arose.
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I kinda liked the lack of commentary .....at least right then and there.
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:52 AM   #409
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As interesting as it is to see the incident in that detail, its scary to think had the technology existed 13 years ago, there would be video phone footage of Owen on the Internet.
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I know this is kinda being forgetten about, but I am kinda disapointed of the lack of information on the Paul Heyman/Punk storyline. Whats going on between them? Will Lesnar attack Cena sunday? Is Paul just going to say "We're friends and I hate Cena"
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:38 AM   #411
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Mad respect to the EMTs and staff who were so quick in their response. And to Michael Cole, who was a class act all the way.
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Mad respect to the EMTs and staff who were so quick in their response. And to Michael Cole, who was a class act all the way.
I wasnt watching the show but was this during a commercial? Cole doesnt miss a beat on the commentary and its hard to figure out when it happened except for the crowd starting to react.
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Old 09-11-2012, 09:00 AM   #413
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How come they waited to perform CPR when he was in the back? Isn't every second important for something like that?
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Old 09-11-2012, 09:02 AM   #414
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I wasnt watching the show but was this during a commercial? Cole doesnt miss a beat on the commentary and its hard to figure out when it happened except for the crowd starting to react.
You can hear him start to breathe very heavily and then the next camera shot clearly shows him slouched over the table so it's quite clear when it happens.
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I wasnt watching the show but was this during a commercial? Cole doesnt miss a beat on the commentary and its hard to figure out when it happened except for the crowd starting to react.
Do you mean was Lawler's heart attack during a break?

If that's what you're asking, then it wasn't. You could hear Lawler having the heart attack first, then bad timing with a camera angle change a few seconds later meant that we also saw Lawler having the heart attack.
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wwe2222, You can hear Lawler at 7:03.
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I can't imagine what was going through Cole's mind, having Lawler collapse, having to still call a match, checking on a friend, having to relay everything to the audience.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:38 AM   #418
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Apparently it's being said Jerry Lawler was clinically dead for 20 minutes before finally reviving.

But the source of this information is Bruce Hart, and he always seems to be drunk, so who knows.
He also probably spells its Hart Attack
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An eyewitness account of what happened last night.

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Last night I was at the Bell Centre in Montreal when Jerry Lawler suffered a heart attack. It was both uncomfortable and concerning.

After Lawler had already competed in a tag-team contest on Raw, he was performing his usual commentary duties with Michael Cole. During a tag-team match between the Prime Time Players and Daniel Bryan/Kane, I looked over to the broadcast table and saw Jerry Lawler hunched over, beginning to shake. It looked like he was choking. Then, suddenly, he collapsed from his chair. Michael Cole was quickly flicking his hand clockwise, as if to say to the cameraman nearby to "get away and get help." EMTs came to check on Lawler. Confusion set in among the fans in attendance, the match in the ring completely being ignored. Lawler was then carried out by several EMTs backstage. I have heard from several sources that the backstage area was cleared for EMTs to attend to Lawler. Initially, before seeing Lawler carted on a stretcher, many backstage thought a fight had escalated in the arena.

Michael Cole updated the TV audience throughout the night that Lawler had been administered CPR backstage, was being taken to the hospital by ambulance, was being administered oxygen and was breathing on his own, as well as responding to light. Unfortunately, this was not relayed to those in attendance in Montreal. We were told by ring announcer Justin Roberts that the planned Pat Patterson Appreciation night was to be postponed to another date because of Lawler's condition, which was not specified.

The crowd remained silent for much of the event after Lawler's collapse -- only during the last segment of Raw involving Bret Hart, John Cena and CM Punk did the crowd begin to react as loudly as they had in the beginning of the evening, which was often deafening and could easily be categorized as one of the hottest crowds in recent memory.

Michael Cole decided to remain silent during the Raw telecast, except to provide updates on Jerry Lawler. I found this to be a very classy and warranted move, particularly because the collapse happened mere inches away from him. Cole remained at his broadcast position, but his expressions and body language throughout the night (including the picture above) said it best.

In May of 1999, Owen Hart fell to his death live at a WWE pay-per-view event in Kansas City, Mo. That event continued as planned. It was later mentioned on that broadcast that Owen Hart had died. Many criticized WWE's decision to move forward with the show. Similar criticism has appeared in this situation. Many feel that a man's life is in danger and it's both insensitive and disrespectful to keep a program going.

I completely understand the notion that "the show must go on." Raw has an obligation to USA Network and broadcast partners around the world for three hours of content on Monday nights, regardless of what happens in that live environment. While that may seem insensitive, it's also business. If Vince McMahon collapsed and was rushed to hospital during an event, the show would go on. The same would apply for any employee.

It's also a tough situation for the superstars who must perform after an occurrence like this. To the trained eye who sees John Cena every week and can notice a change in his demeanor, it was clear that he was less enthusiastic than normal during his entrance. You must give credit to him and the other superstars for maintaining composure when a fellow colleague is being administered CPR backstage.

Lawler's match didn't seem overly strenuous. In an interview with me a few months ago, Lawler mentioned that despite being 62 years old, he still wrestles on average twice a week, whether it be WWE or independents. Pro wrestling matches can often happen at a blistering pace or at a very slow one. Perhaps Lawler's matches these days fall under the latter, but is it not a touch concerning that a man his age continues to take damage to his body like that? On the same episode of Raw, Bret Hart, a stroke survivor, also got physical, albeit a very small amount.

I'm sure it goes without saying but our thoughts are with Jerry Lawler for a speedy recovery.
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@stacycarterkat Just got a @JerryLawler update. He had a stint & a balloon put in. Right now he is still heavily sedated.
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I wasnt watching the show but was this during a commercial? Cole doesnt miss a beat on the commentary and its hard to figure out when it happened except for the crowd starting to react.
I think he mumbled something about a sledge hammer before he collapsed. I noticed something was up because I came out of the bathroom shortly after and didn't hear Jerry and was thinking that was weird, he came back to commentary after his match.....Was feeling really low when Cole wasn't talking.
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Lawler should get Otunga to sue Ziggler.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:09 PM   #423
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I don't like this Ziggler joke, just distasteful.
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i could see them using that in a storyline someday in the future, much like when they had his son come back and when cole said that stuff about his dead mother, provided lawler recovers and is comfortable with it.
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AJ is the one who made the match. Go for the big money and sue the company. You aren't getting shit from Ziggler but a few bucks and some dirty Amy Schumer panties.
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The WWE made a mistake sending the old vanilla midget and new vanilla out to start the show. Both are renouned ratings killers. Knowing that they already had Bret Hart who looks like Nick Nolte and is even more boring than he used to be closing the show, Vince had Jerry Lawler fake a heart attack in order to draw back the fans who had left during the opening segment.
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From the WWE's Facebook account.

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"As of this morning, Jerry “The King” Lawler is in a cardiac care unit and all his vital signs are stable. WWE will provide additional information as it becomes available. We continue to wish Jerry all the best for a full recovery.”
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Might be the first Raw in a long time in which Bret Hart wasn't wearing jean shorts and a hockey jersey.
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wonder if they will talk jbl into coming back king will be gone for awhile and may never come back.
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Just thinking about how lucky king was that it happened then and not lets say tomorrow when he is working out by himself.
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Besides the Lawler thing, that was a pretty good Raw. As always, Punk and Cena do such a great job on the mic, they both always manage to touch upon the right topics, and word each one perfectly, to get the full impact of every promo.
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wonder if they will talk jbl into coming back king will be gone for awhile and may never come back.
Lawler will most definitely be out of action for a while now.

JBL won't come back though. Josh Mathews will cover for Lawler.
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That ovation that Bret got when he first came out was the kind I wanted when he made his return to WWE. I am glad he finally returned to Canada. I was waiting that whole run for them to do a show in Canada.
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Why would Owen haunt an arena over 1000 miles away from his death scene?
You think distance is an issue for a ghost!?!?
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Might be the first Raw in a long time in which Bret Hart wasn't wearing jean shorts and a hockey jersey.
Now all he needs is a haircut and he'd look decent.
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'cause that's where Vince screwed Bret back in '97, duh!

Owen was like "I'll show all of you!"
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Needless to say the whole King incident really took the wind out of my sails Monday. Made me almost not even give a fuck about the rest of the show, dunno if I'll even have much interest in SmackDown! on Friday or Night of Champions for that matter.

Just really hope that this isn't the last we'll have ever seen on commentary or anywhere else for that matter.

Don't believe anyone has posted it (if so, my apologies), so here's a clip of Cole on Fox & Friends:
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Has Cena ever beaten punk?
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He's definitely beaten him at some point. They feuded for a while before Punk's sit down promo. Back when Punk took over The Nexus. I can't imagine Cena never getting one up on him in some fashion.

Though I can't remember them ever having a singles match oddly enough during that feud. Not even a blowoff.
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Just looked it up. He has beaten him outside dark matches and house shows but it wasn't even in that time.

8-22-11 Raw to decide the #1 contender for the WWE Title against Del Rio.

Cena won after a distraction from Nash.
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