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Old 12-04-2015, 04:23 PM   #1
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Barrett and Sheamus should be feuding with The New Day over the Tag Team Titles right now. Barrett & Sheamus -- Bad News -- WWE Tag Team Champions.
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Monday's WWE Raw television show (12/7) averaged 3.054 million viewers, according to Showbuzzdaily.com. Viewership was down from the 3.168 million average from last week (11/30).


Hour 1 = 3.270 million
Hour 2 = 3.042 million
Hour 3 = 2.850 million
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:27 PM   #6
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Half a million TVs switch off before his final segment, people noticeably filing out (according to reports) before the end, and almost one year later, they are still forcing Roman Reigns into positions he shouldn't be in. Defies all logic and belief and makes me depressed tbh.
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:06 PM   #7
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Monday's WWE Raw television show (12/7) averaged 3.054 million viewers, according to Showbuzzdaily.com. Viewership was down from the 3.168 million average from last week (11/30).


Hour 1 = 3.270 million
Hour 2 = 3.042 million
Hour 3 = 2.850 million
How did football do? Was it up week over week?
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:20 PM   #8
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How did football do? Was it up week over week?
Got back the 4 million or so from last week.

Biggest gainer was Family Guy in terms of rankings. Outranked the 9pm and 10pm hours of RAW.
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:03 PM   #9
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Monday's episode of WWE RAW is the second lowest audience for the show since permanently going to 3 hours in July of 2012. The audience is only 3% from the record-low 2.964 million viewers that the show averaged on November 23, 2015.
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:09 PM   #10
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So... was Raw shit on Monday?
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:23 PM   #11
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That final segment was horrendous. I about fell asleep on it and the tater tots stuff wasn't funny. The first time it might have been worth a chuckle but after he continued to call Sheamus a tater tot it just got silly retarded. The fact that they even out Reigns in there to start out with is dumb. We're going to have the ring crew set up all this stuff for Reigns even though the Authority hate the guy. It would have been a bit better had Reigns filled the ring up with tables, ladders, and chairs before he got in the ring. Reigns even pointed out that the fact that Sheamus called him out and that he was the only one there wasn't right. If Reigns wins at TLC I think I'll have to stop watching til after Mania or he drops the title, just don't want to see Reigns in the main event picture at all.
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That final segment was horrendous. I about fell asleep on it and the tater tots stuff wasn't funny. The first time it might have been worth a chuckle but after he continued to call Sheamus a tater tot it just got silly retarded. The fact that they even out Reigns in there to start out with is dumb. We're going to have the ring crew set up all this stuff for Reigns even though the Authority hate the guy. It would have been a bit better had Reigns filled the ring up with tables, ladders, and chairs before he got in the ring. Reigns even pointed out that the fact that Sheamus called him out and that he was the only one there wasn't right. If Reigns wins at TLC I think I'll have to stop watching til after Mania or he drops the title, just don't want to see Reigns in the main event picture at all.
I didn't care for the tater tots line but the crowd was with him. Read a report from a live fan who said he was massively over. Looks like what they are doing is working in the arenas.
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I didn't care for the tater tots line but the crowd was with him. Read a report from a live fan who said he was massively over. Looks like what they are doing is working in the arenas.
Did you verify if the live fan was actually at the event via ticket confirmation or confirmed with Vince or security? Or did you just read another "report".
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I didn't care for the tater tots line but the crowd was with him. Read a report from a live fan who said he was massively over. Looks like what they are doing is working in the arenas.
Doesnt matter, dudes not a main eventer and will turn fans away from the product if continued to be pushed as he is now.
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Doesnt matter, dudes not a main eventer and will turn fans away from the product if continued to be pushed as he is now.
We'll see

To me he's talented, if the babyface thing doesn't work, he can still work as a heel.

He's in a tough spot being thrusted into the top spot at a time when the roster has never been thinner.
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We'll see

To me he's talented, if the babyface thing doesn't work, he can still work as a heel.

He's in a tough spot being thrusted to top spot at a time when the roster has never been thinner.
Thats what I've been saying, he has potential but not as the joke cracking smiling babyface. He should be a badass that Handel's his business and says a few words.

Hes in the tough spot because he's not ready for the top. Like I've said he should have been ripping through the mid card and possibly have held both the IC and US titles by now. I feel the roster is fine, its just underutilized. You have a lot of talented guys that don't do anything. If the rosters thin it WWEs fault. Hell, they have Somoa Joe setting in NXT, if the rosters thin call him up.
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I didn't care for the tater tots line but the crowd was with him. Read a report from a live fan who said he was massively over. Looks like what they are doing is working in the arenas.
Is that same same fan that took a picture of people leaving the arena?
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Old 12-09-2015, 05:03 PM   #18
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Is that same same fan that took a picture of people leaving the arena?
I don't know. You would have to ask the guy.
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Reigns has been getting more over with the crowds in recent weeks because crowds themselves have started to bail en masse before his main event matches and segments. Last Smackdown and yesterday being big examples of both.

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The much maligned CyNick appears to have begun half-assing the gimmick and isn't really trying to defend shit anymore. Fun's over. Time to pack it up, guys.
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I've heard more about Dave Meltzer from CyNick than I have from any other poster. To not like the guy he sure knows a lot about him. No one actually brings up Meltzer except him.
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I've heard more about Dave Meltzer from CyNick than I have from any other poster. To not like the guy he sure knows a lot about him. No one actually brings up Meltzer except him.
Ive said before I reference him because his publication is referenced the most on this site.
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Since 1983, he has been the publisher/editor of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter (WON). Meltzer has also written for the Oakland Tribune, the Los Angeles Times, Yahoo! Sports, and The National Sports Daily. He has extensively covered mixed martial arts since UFC 1 in 1993 and currently covers the sport for SB Nation. Meltzer has been called "the most accomplished reporter in sports journalism" by Frank Deford of Sports Illustrated. He is also a frequent lecturer on many aspects of the business of MMA, professional wrestling and boxing at the Graduate School of Business, Stanford University.

Source: Rossen, Jake (2013-05-15). "In World of Wrestling, Trying to Keep It Real". The New York Times.
That's exactly the kind of person I'd want to depose as a testifying expert witness or at least as a non-testifying consulting expert in order to explain the intricacies of an unusual subject like the backstage goings-on of pro wrestling to me.

Clearly the guy's a bottom feeding joke and a hack though who doesn't know anyone in the business, have any legitimate sources or know anything.
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That's exactly the kind of person I'd want to depose as a testifying expert witness or at least as a non-testifying consulting expert in order to explain the intricacies of an unusual subject like the backstage goings-on of pro wrestling to me.

Clearly the guy's a bottom feeding joke and a hack though who doesn't know anyone in the business, have any legitimate sources or know anything.
I stopped reading The Observer long time ago, but found this on a newz site, which credits The Observer:

"Regarding WWE SmackDown moving to the USA Network in January, there is said to be at least one significant change in the works. This could have something to do with commentary or the look of the show as it appears there are no plans to bring bigger names to SmackDown."

This is the man you say is a super JOURNALIST. There will be at least ONE change, but we have no idea what it is. Why dont you just ask your source? You would think this source would have all the scoopz. Anyone could just guess that there will be changes when a show moves networks. Maybe Frank Deford should reconsider his ridiculous opinion.
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I stopped reading The Observer long time ago, but found this on a newz site, which credits The Observer:

"Regarding WWE SmackDown moving to the USA Network in January, there is said to be at least one significant change in the works. This could have something to do with commentary or the look of the show as it appears there are no plans to bring bigger names to SmackDown."

This is the man you say is a super JOURNALIST. There will be at least ONE change, but we have no idea what it is. Why dont you just ask your source? You would think this source would have all the scoopz. Anyone could just guess that there will be changes when a show moves networks. Maybe Frank Deford should reconsider his ridiculous opinion.
Is the idea that WWE is going to change something re: commentary or production/presentation for Smackdown but won't be bringing in bigger names when they move to USA not news? It's certainly news to me. I had no idea.

Now I'll agree it's not necessarily exciting news. Maybe his source is only in a position currently to know that there are plans to make changes to Smackdown and that those plans don't involve bringing in bigger names.

Should he not report that because it doesn't meet your standards of "quality" pro wrestling journalistic integrity? I'm all for having strict journalistic standards, especially as it relates to potentially damaging someone's reputation or causing inappropriate outrage or hysteria. I.e., accusing someone of a crime, making sure you report the facts accurately when reporting on criminal activities and the accused, important political, legal or policy issues, etc.

In fairness I have no idea re: the quality of Meltzer's reporting on other sports like MMA and UFC. I'd be willing to bet that his reporting on UFC, etc., might be a little more thorough re: the inner workings because 1. there's no "creative" story line planning going on that can change at any time, 2. its easier to get direct access to the competitors, their agents, UFC executives, etc. through more regular press conferences, etc., and 3. it's not "entertainment" but actual sport so there's less need to be secretive.

You're criticizing journalistic quality of people reporting on the inner workings, plans, outcomes and politics of a scripted and predetermined dramatic television show on the premise of athletic "competition". Seems to me like you take your pro wrestling "news" a little too seriously.
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all I seriously know about Meltzer is that he feuded with TNARick and /r/SquaredCircle loves to link his radio/opinion pieces


If he is of any importance I'd like an explanation. Otherwise, he's just another fan
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Meltzer

I take every report I read online with a grain of salt, but Meltzer's been reporting on Wrestling/MMA a lot longer than most of us have been watching, and he does have a rapport/following/standing/presence with people within the industry.

I'm not saying he's alright spot on and his "reports" can sometimes be pretty vague, but I'd take Meltzer's word over CyNicks any day.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Meltzer

I take every report I read online with a grain of salt, but Meltzer's been reporting on Wrestling/MMA a lot longer than most of us have been watching, and he does have a rapport/following/standing/presence with people within the industry.

I'm not saying he's alright spot on and his "reports" can sometimes be pretty vague, but I'd take Meltzer's word over CyNicks any day.
I'm not in a competition. I don't come on here saying I have scoopz.

I just provide an opinion.
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But CyNick got his info from a fan at the show, sure CyNick didn't cite anything but he doesn't have too.
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But CyNick got his info from a fan at the show, sure CyNick didn't cite anything but he doesn't have too.
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You predicted a Cesaro and Big Show feud.

"Plans changed".
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You predicted a Cesaro and Big Show feud.

"Plans changed".
First, Im not claiming to be an insider. We all understand that, right? I'm just a regular guy.

Second, I never said I thought that was set in stone, I just predicted based on how I saw Cesaro being positioned on TV that he was going to get a push, and I thought overcoming Big Show would be a start.

Cesaro also got hurt and Show is off TV. So kinda tough to run that angle.
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First, Im not claiming to be an insider. We all understand that, right? I'm just a regular guy.

Second, I never said I thought that was set in stone, I just predicted based on how I saw Cesaro being positioned on TV that he was going to get a push, and I thought overcoming Big Show would be a start.

Cesaro also got hurt and Show is off TV. So kinda tough to run that angle.
Correct, Cesaro got injured about 2 months after the big show match, hard to start a feud within those 2 months.
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Correct, Cesaro got injured about 2 months after the big show match, hard to start a feud within those 2 months.
It wasn't a priority. You don't want to have Show lose so quickly after they built up a big match with Lesnar.

Again, this whole thing is comical in that it was just an idea I presented as a possibility to give Cesaro something to do. I never once said I heard it would happen. Hell I've never ever claimed I have any inside info on anything. But now that it didn't happen you're using it as some type of slam against me.

Comical really.
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Old 12-10-2015, 10:39 AM   #36
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And at the end of the day, the show is still among the most watched things in its time slot (usually top 2 or 3)
Most watched because? It surely isn't because MORE viewers are tuning in, it is just the "best" of crap programming. I understand a top slot is a top slot, regardless. An overall drop in viewership is still a net loss.


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and from an advertising perspective, things have never been better. Those things seem to get ignored by everyone who isnt me, because the people who are frequent posters on here, dont feel the product is catering to their whims. I look like the ugly girl at the dance because I'm the guy who actually enjoys what I'm watching.
So you tune in for the adverts? I watch for the actual show and the content of said show. Just confused on that statement I guess.

No one is debating that Reigns moves merch, just that there are people who find other wrestlers much more entertaining and they would rather watch. This is indicated by people leaving the main event at recent shows when Reigns is prominently involved. The average viewer doesn't care how much merch wrestler X sells, just that they keep the viewer entertained. THAT is the biggest point here, Reigns simply doesn't entertain the average long-time viewer that is now in their 20s or later.
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CyNick doesn't take fifth hand information. Only takes H and Vince's opinion as fact.

Cites a Twitter post and report from a fan supposedly at Raw this past Monday.

Yeah.
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CyNick doesn't take fifth hand information. Only takes H and Vince's opinion as fact.

Cites a Twitter post and report from a fan supposedly at Raw this past Monday.

Yeah.
First, it's not opinions I'm concerned about. Everyone has opinions. Each as worthless as the next.

I'm talking about facts about the inner workings and decisions that have been made. H, Vince, Steph, Dunn would have those. When they speak, I listen.

The fan report I mentioned was a FIRST HAND ACCOUNT. The guy claimed he was at the show and reported what the crowd responded to. Dirt Sheetz would get a quote from that guys 2nd cousin's pool guy, who overheard the 2nd cousin talking to someone else and saying the show was not very good, even though he didn't see it.
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First, it's not opinions I'm concerned about. Everyone has opinions. Each as worthless as the next.

I'm talking about facts about the inner workings and decisions that have been made. H, Vince, Steph, Dunn would have those. When they speak, I listen.

The fan report I mentioned was a FIRST HAND ACCOUNT. The guy claimed he was at the show and reported what the crowd responded to. Dirt Sheetz would get a quote from that guys 2nd cousin's pool guy, who overheard the 2nd cousin talking to someone else and saying the show was not very good, even though he didn't see it.
So did you verify If he was actually at the show? How did you confirm it? And what say you to the other FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS and PHOTOS of fans filling out of the arena prior to Roman's main event segment?
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So did you verify If he was actually at the show? How did you confirm it? And what say you to the other FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS and PHOTOS of fans filling out of the arena prior to Roman's main event segment?
Well that other guys first hand account doesn't agree with CyNick so he's wrong.
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