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Old 08-25-2004, 12:49 PM   #1
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Damnit, Joe Nathan has choked twice in the past week. Until then he was on track to be one of the elite closers in the game, only one blown save, under 1.00 era, over 30 saves, now within the span of a week his ERA is above 2. Damnit Joe, we need you man!
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Old 08-25-2004, 01:27 PM   #2
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Its been crazy world for closers the past week or 2. Nathan, Smoltz, Gagne, Hoffman, Kolb all struggled. Maybe Gagne's record should be considered harder than it is.
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Yeah Mariano did that a while back, his era was at about .89 or something then he blew two in a row and it was back to a mere excellent 2.5 Still, 43 saves this year already Quantrill, Gordon and Rivera have been amazing this year for us
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I think its an incredibly impressive record. All those saves and he didn't once have disastrous inning? Everyone has them every few games or so.
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Yea.. now I'm afraid with Lo Duca gone, Gagne's not gonna trust the catcher as much...
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Now if the Yanks could only get an SP who can win consistantly
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Yeah. El Duque has been fantastic since he returned though
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I don't think the Angels, A's, Rangers, and Red Sox plan on losing any more games this season
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It's gonna be a fucking brilliant end to the season
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This is the situation where I feel kinda bad that the A's and Rangers probably won't make the playoffs, but at the same time if they did add a play-in game the end of the season wouldn't be nearly as intense, I am torn.
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The A's will make the playoffs, maybe not as the AL West champion but they will make the playoffs.
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A's, Sox, Yanks, Twins. Playoffs.
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Yep. And Dodgers, Cubs, Braves, and Cardinals.
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Yanks vs Twins

A's vs Sox.

Hightlights from Post season series.

Byrnes argues with a seagull for getting in his way while the Sox score four runs to win the series.

Yanks sweep Twins.


Highlights from Sox/Yanks.

Boston goes up 3-0. Yanks come back and tie it 3-3.

John Flaherty hits a Series Winning homer in the Bottom of the 16th inning to win it for the Yankees.


**Wakes up
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Loose Cannon must have missed the Twins dismantling of the Yankees last week
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How does the playoff seeding work? Does it go strictly by records or does the top team play the wildcard even if the wildcard has a better record then one of the division leaders, if the top seed is from the East and so is the Wildcard, can they play in the DS?

I am asking all of this because I am pretty sure the Twins wouldn't play the Yankees in the first round anyway.
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Whomever has the worst record out of the other 3 plays the Top Team

So...so far you're looking at Twins/Yankees
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Can you say 18-6 with 9 runs in the 9th?!

Jesus the Yankees just obliterated Toronto

How cool is it that we have Ruben Sierra and Tony Clark as part timers? Clark had 3 homers tonight
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Yeah the Yankees did a great job raising those guys in their farm system. Not to mention Giambi, Sheffield, Matsui, Mussina, Vasquez, and Rodriguez.
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Because the Sox, Rangers and Angels did right?

Also:

Posada, Jeter, Rivera, Williams...Yeah thats basically 4 of our most key players and some of the most key to the championship success...Not to mention Soriano and Andy Pettitte who was one of the most successful and consistent starters in the last decade.

But they don't count i guess?
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Those teams are pieces of shit too. Boston is the biggest piece of shit because they buy everyone and still can't win. Last time I checked Anderson, Glaus, Erstad, and Salmon (the nucleus of the Angels) over the past 5-10 years were born and bred Angels. Look at the other playoff-contending teams 5 most key players:

Anaheim
1. Guerrero - Montreal
2. Anderson - farm
3. Glaus - farm
4. Erstad - farm
5. Salmon - farm

Oakland
1. Mulder - farm
2. Hudson - farm
3. Chavez - farm
4. Zito - farm
5. Durazo - Arizona

Minnesota
1. Santana - farm
2. Hunter - farm
3. Stewart - Toronto
4. Nathan - San Francisco
5. Jones - farm

Even though alot of the Yankees nucleus were not bought, the players that were don't even compare to any other team besides Boston
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Agreed, but as a fan there's not much i can do about that
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A's are the man in the farm system. Harden should be huge in 3 years. And Tejada came from there.
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3 years? Harden could win 15 games next year. The kid is learning how to pitch faster than most flame-throwers. Also, look for these Oakland farm guys to be impact players in a few years: Adam Morrisey, Jairo Garcia, Omar Quintanilla, Huston Street.
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Minnesota has one of the best front office staffs in the league, whenever we are on national tv the announcers always praise our farm staffs ability to pick the right players. If it wasn't for budget issues we would be so much better also.

Due to budget issues last year, we lost Eric Milton, LaTroy Hawkins and Eddie Guardado.

The two key guys that we have aquired from other teams have been purely genius moves, rather than simply buying them and losing key prospects like the Yankees, look at how our guys were aquired.

Shannon Stewart for Bobby Kielty. Kielty was an average young outfielder, now still being average on the A's while Stewart fit perfectly into the Twins lineup right where we needed him also.

It would have been nice to keep AJ Pierzynski this year, and we traded him in part because of salary issues, but he was going to have to go anyway because of Mauer, and we found a guy who was average on the Giants and now he is one of the best closers in the AL.

That is how you build a team. Now when some of out older guys get done, Mauer, Morneau, and Kubel will be able to step in and we won't miss a beat. What can be devieving about what the Miz posted is that out of the five he posted, two weren't farm guys, but of the whole team those are the only everyday players that haven't come up with us.

Like Peter Gammons always says, the A's and the Twins build their teams right and it would be great for baseball if one of them wins the world series. The reason I chose to analyze the Twins is because I used to live there and know their system better than any other team, whereas I don't the A's. They are both in the same position, I chose the Twins for obvious reasons, don't try to pull the usual shit.
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I'm a little late but i've been busy with work. But anyway, did anybody see how Scott Kazmir pitched, he's quite the prospect and I think he pitches again tomorrow.
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Yeah, he's gonna be the man. Be on the look out as well for Jeff Francis, a left-handed pitcher for the Rockies. He got roughed up a little bit in his major league debut, but I think he's one of the top 3 pitching prospects in baseball.
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I think I read that Justin Jones has like an 8 era in his first three games in the Twins minor league system
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Esteban Loaiza is the new Yankee's Jeff Weaver.
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Yeah, i said when the trade went through i was sad to see Contreras go as he had showed some huge promise and coulda been a great pitcher for us, the trade coulda paid off and it hasn't, but its too early to give up on Loaiza, and i doubt Torre will either, but the bullpen probably awaits him. This could be a good thing, as aside from Quantrill, Gordon and Rivera we could do with another solid reliever, especially one like Loaiza who can go some innings, Tanyon Sturtze has been good in spells but he always seems to get knocked about too much.
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Loaiza had one dominant year last year and thats all he will ever have. He's not young or anything, the Yankee's fucked up on that one.


By the way, did anybody see Santana smoking the Angels? They were real hot and he kicked their ass, yahoo!
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I think Santana has the AL Cy Young right in his grasps. The only knock on him is that he doesn't really do complete games.

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