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Old 04-02-2006, 11:58 PM   #1
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Wow, I really wasn't expecting that match to finish that way. Not even a double turn at the end.
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Old 04-03-2006, 12:11 AM   #2
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WWE did a good job. AWESOME PPV. The main event was awesome and the ending was perfect, it really builds up the STFU.

Rey winning the title is a start to a new era and he deserved it.

Henry did lose to Undertaker, but Taker showed that he still has some in him so it will be interesting where they go with Taker from now on.
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I wasted $50 on a shitty STF.

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Old 04-03-2006, 12:56 AM   #4
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I wasted $50 on a shitty STF.

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Old 04-03-2006, 12:03 AM   #5
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Will HHH ever stop holding down the talent?
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Anyone watching the Wrestlemania post show?

Crystal is showing off some big boobies.
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Old 04-03-2006, 12:47 AM   #7
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That was exactly the response I expected from Vermaat. Yup, main event was awesome! Nothing like ending the show with 20,000 people silent to cap off a great PPV!

Actually, it was a pretty good PPV over, but the ending was probably the worst way you could have booked it. At least throw some excitement or double turn or SOMETHING in there either during or after the match. Simple tap out? Cena was NOT the underdog. This wasn't some David slaying Goliath. So in this case, a tap out does nothing.

Rey winning is definitely interesting. Lets see where they go with it before we judge, but I still say they'll end up treating it as a fluke win.

And of course Henry was gonna lose. You expected him to win?
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Old 04-03-2006, 12:48 AM   #8
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But you said that ANY ONE of those will BREAK IT! ON NOES THE WWE IS GONNA CLOSE!
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Old 04-03-2006, 12:57 AM   #9
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:22 AM   #10
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Amazing that they allowed Cena to fire off a live gun indoors during his entrance.
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Amazing that they allowed Cena to fire off a live gun indoors during his entrance.
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what the shit was this???

this was crap for a wrestlemania, hell crap for any ppv

they didn't even do anything special outside the matches, no guest appearances, no promos or live shows or anything... it's wrestle-fucking-mania and nothing happend...

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WHAT THE FUCK?
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:49 AM   #13
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:55 AM   #14
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What in the hell are you all talking about?? This Wrestlemania was one of the best I've seen in years, if not ever. I was so entranced by almost every single match. And I really didn't even mind the ending. I actually thought it was kinda cool and I'm not a Cena fan in the least. How can you say that Cena wasn't the underdog?? They built him up to be an underdog for weeks upon weeks. Everyone took shots at his wrestling skills, he himself even said that he was not nearly as good as Trips. Hell, the first 10 minutes of the match was squash. I actually like that Cena beat Trips legitimately with all of the fans against him. The fans almost played the bad guys in the match, hella wierd.

Anyways, awesome PPV. Money well spent IMO
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:00 AM   #15
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What in the hell are you all talking about?? This Wrestlemania was one of the best I've seen in years, if not ever. I was so entranced by almost every single match. And I really didn't even mind the ending. I actually thought it was kinda cool and I'm not a Cena fan in the least. How can you say that Cena wasn't the underdog?? They built him up to be an underdog for weeks upon weeks. Everyone took shots at his wrestling skills, he himself even said that he was not nearly as good as Trips. Hell, the first 10 minutes of the match was squash. I actually like that Cena beat Trips legitimately with all of the fans against him. The fans almost played the bad guys in the match, hella wierd.

Anyways, awesome PPV. Money well spent IMO
I argee, awesome PPV (though not just cos I was fucking there). There was a lot of matches to get though, think all of them got the deserved time, except Rey/Orton/Angle though was marking out so 20 mins could have seemed like 5 to me.
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This Post-PPV stuff is hilarious. Gotta love asking about Playboy with little kids around, and the marks. Cool Edge fan there tho.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:56 AM   #17
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I thought it was a pretty good ppv....my only pissed off points are...

The Playboy Pillow Fight being between the two main events....WTF were they thinking...

The Entrances of HHH and John Cena....I hope they never....eeeeeevvvvverrrr do that again
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:03 AM   #18
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WTF??????? I finally made it onto the boards, but I cannot believe HHH tapped to Cena. Back in January, I figured Cena would retain against HHH, but after Cena lost the belt and won it right back, HHH was gonna win. But what the.........? And HHH jobbing in the WM main event now 3 years in a row?? Something fishy is going on. One of my friends was so pissed, that he pedigreed his younger brother, lol.

But the rest of the show was pretty good. Aside from Boogeyman, Booker/Sharmell, and the pillow fight. The backstage segment with Booker T and the freaks was LOL. Womens match was excellent, even though the botched Stratusfaction at the end. Triple Threat was great, but too short. MITB was good, RVD! Hardcore match was good. Vince/Shawn was a fun match as well. HBK is still the man.

Besides some low spots, I still think the ppv did pretty good. Not the best WM of all time, but its in the top 10.
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Triple h tapped to CENA!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK!!!!
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Mania thoughts...

-Unnecessary to say Bret was "Uncomfortable" to come to the Event

-God I've missed Cactus Jack

-Edge at any 'Mania= Gold

-Shelton once again the man in the MITB

-RVD winning leads to me theory of him challenging for the title at the ECW PPV

-Flair should never have been in that match. Nor should he have taken that sort of bump.

-Backstage segment with all the freaks had be rolling on the floor

-Did I mention Edge and Cactus was unbelieable.

-Mickie James owned that match, God I love that woman.

-Then Again she did cost me 5 points in Tipsters by f'n up the Stratus faction:foc:

- WTF was the Playboy match so high, they screwed up the same way last year with the Sumo Match

- The crowd during the Main Event was very entertaining to watch

-The hints of DX from HHH/HBK was intresting, gives us something to watch for on Raw Tommrrow

-WTF was up with those two entrances. HHH looked like the Barbarian, and I serious just stared at the screen when Cena came out as a Mobster for no reason at all.

-Cena winning was a shock, which was good, but don't think having your "face" champion that get booed hardcore in the Main Event of Mania was such a great idea, am intrested to see where they go from here... HHH rematch?... HBK?


-Everyone was saying this was gonna be a horrible Mania and although it wasnt the best, was FAR from the worst.


I'm sure once I think more about it, will come back with more thoughts on it
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:13 AM   #21
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I think it was a good show. It was clearly booked by a crazy person in terms of what went where, but the matches themselves were all satisfying. I like that the focus was on the matches, and not on backstage stuff. It's WrestleMania. I'd rather watch a six-man ladder match than Pete Rose in a chicken costume.

Although, having said that, the skit with Booker T and the "freaks" was hilarious. As soon as I saw Eugene with the basketball, I just started laughing my ass off. My friend (who's only been a friend since the Attitude era) looked at me like I was nuts. Nice nod to the old-school fans. Something they...well...NEVER do.

The last hour of the PPV was poorly planned, though. You should always end WrestleMania by sending the crowd home happy, so Rey Mysterio overcoming the odds to win the World Title should have been last. So why was it before the pillow fight (which was actually better than I expected)? And why on earth did they end the show with perhaps the least-over babyface champion in a decade getting a submission win with his secondary finisher over Conan The Barbarian?

When the match was over, everybody started to get up to leave our table, but I said "Wait a minute. No way they're ending it like this. They're building to something." And then the montage rolled. Big disappointment on that front.

But the show itself was very good.

MITB didn't disappoint (although I would have liked more offense from Finlay). I loved the triple powerbomb spot on Lashley. Makes him look like a beast. RVD's splash was a little weak, but it was all he could do with Finlay so close to the ladder. The right guy absolutely won that one. And at Shelton's two big spots (the running somersault plancha and springboarding onto the ladder). I don't care if they never defend the IC belt at Mania again, just keep putting this guy in this match.

The hardcore match was excellent. I expected it to be a lot of fun, but those two went waaaaaay over the top. As soon as I saw the lighter fluid, I knew the table spot was coming and, when Lita took the bottle, I knew the spear was coming. Although I expected a shoulderblock-type spear, not a tope through the table! And Edge did a phenomenal job selling being in shock at the end of the match.

If they hadn't botched that one spot at the very end of the Women's Title match, that would have almost been the perfect diva match. Trish and Mickie complement each others' styles so well and Trish's knee injury gave the match...GASP...psychology.

I was a little disappointed that we didn't get a Carlito face turn with Masters turning on him after the opener, but they're teasing a breakup again. I can't believe I'm saying this, but that would be a good feud for Masters.

I didn't care much for the ending of the Benoit/JBL match. I don't mind necessarily that JBL won, but it just seemed really sudden. Those two could have gone a lot longer. Ah, well. Still an enjoyable match.

I don't care for Undertaker or Mark Henry, but the casket match was pretty good. I still can't believe that UT can still jump that far. I really expected that to end badly when he took off.

But, yeah, overall I really enjoyed it. If they'd rearranged the last three matches (and, preferably, put the pillow fight before HBK/Vince and Edge/Foley), the show would have been just about as good as it could be.
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I was a little disappointed that we didn't get a Carlito face turn with Masters turning on him after the opener, but they're teasing a breakup again. I can't believe I'm saying this, but that would be a good feud for Masters.
I was marking out so hard during their little argument when the fans were chatning for Carlito.

I want him to turn face so bad.
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:43 AM   #23
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I really REALLY liked the PPV. I ddin't care in the least that there was no stunt booking or pointles guest appearances.

The Trish/Mickie match was definitely a show stealer. Great match fromstart to finish..even the blown spot could be explained by Trish's "injury" And the crowd obviously appreciated the job Mickie has been doing playing the heel. I think some fans forget that Victoria played a pretty good psycho..lets hope they don't drop the ball with Mickie.

Foley/Edge was incredible. Predictable result, but a great, great match.

MITB was a lot of fun and I could see the WWE using it as a springboard to send Flair to SD during the draft to set up a program with Finlay. Also, Shelton Benjamin is BY FAR the best athlete on the roster.

The segment with Booker was GOLDEN.

Carlito is going to get over quick as a face.

I actually thought the show was fairly predictable until the title matches:

I was pretty apathetic about Rey winning the title. The match was a little lackluster and shorter than I expected. And I think the live crowd definitely didn't pop the way the WWE expected. I honestly believe Orton/Angle would've torn the house down...but Rey as champ does give them a nice sproingboard for other matches. Not my choice, but definitely surprising.

Trips/Cena: Trips carried the match, but no matter. Wildly entertaining and the crowd was RED HOT. The competing chants were electric; this was the most fired up I've seen a crowd since SCSA/Rock II in Houston. I was shocked by the ending, but if it leads to a nice little heel run by Cena, playing off the way the crowd vilified him, then its all good. John cena as a heel was incredible.

If we get 6 more months of the 'scrappy underdog' BS however, I'll probably be tuning out. The wussified Cena is just not as entertaining.
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There seems to be a lot of issues with tonights Wrestlemania, I for one enjoyed watching it.

Mick Foley & Edge gave it their all in the Hardcore Match and I think Edge showed just how far he will go, I see big things in his future.

Trish and Mickie had a good match, Mickie showed that she is a great wrestler and can tell a story in the ring, If Trish crippled down and sold her weakened knee, she could have hid the Stratusfaction mistake, either way Mickie Deserved to be crowned Champion.

Vince and Shawn, well Shawn put on a nice display, Vince mearly took the hits, a great spot at the end, I think Vince will talk about HBKs "DX-Pose" and how Shawn said before the match that he will be going out there as somebody else entirely as a form of Shawn converting back to his "don't give a crap" rebel days, what Vince wanted all along.

It was nice to see Rey win, He deserved to win sometime, I still feel Eddie is his reason for the title shot, I would rather see Rey win without having to use Eddie's Legacy as a stepping stone to get fan support, My Personal Opinion is that Angle made the Title look strong, Now that Rey has it, he needs to do the same, but I don't think he has what it takes to pull it off as well as Angle did.

Another thing I liked was how J.R. and Lawler didn't try to convince the viewers to cheer Cena or Boo Triple H, they called the match how they should always do, straight down the middle giving each wrestler their props, personal bias makes things interesting, but there's a limit.

Many people didn't like the "Advanced" Enterances of HHH and Cena, I thought they were a nice touch, built up anticipation and got people in the mood for the match, made it feel like a huge boxing match, which is another good thing, the In-Ring Introductions by Lillian Garcia were good and made the match look Professional. Cena vs Triple H was one of the best matches I've ever seen, it wasn't just the fight, it was the fans, the commentators, the actions of both men created one hell of an atmosphere.

The Money in the Bank ladder match was alright, a nice handful of spots and bumps, I felt really bad for Flair until I saw the sequence motion of both Referees raising their arms at the same time, then I felt played, their use that sign (which was ment to be used incase of serious injuries) was pathetic, I wont dwell on that because it doesn't matter, what matters is RVD is getting a shot at the championship, ever since that one match against ... I think it was either Triple H or the Undertaker... anyway, ever since that match when he won, celebrated with the championship, then the match got restarted and he lost, I felt bad for him, he has a good fanbase and the whole crowd gets behind him, just watch him do his RVD taunt and see how many people taunt along with him while chanting his initials.

In closing I thought the PPV was good, Hardcore, WWE championship, Womens Championship matches were GREAT, only 2 or 3 matches were sub par, but the rest were alright.
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Cena/HHH was one of the best matches ever, wrestlers were great, fans were great, introductions were great. Anyone who can't see through their hatred of either men to see that, is pathetic.
While I wouldn't say it was one of the greatest matches ever, it WAS a good match. I am a bit pissed at the fans during the match. Yeah, Cena needs to drop the title, but seriously, half of the Cena hate is bandwagon. The guy is DOING his job. Get everyone else's cocks out of your mouths and actually give the guy props where it's due.

Cena could have VERY WELL pulled a Goldberg/Lesnar WM20 by just basically saying 'Fuck it' and taken it loosely. But he DIDN'T. Anyone saying Cena didn't seem like the underdog is a tool. The whole way through I bet about everyone was expecting the lose by Cena. I did, and I lose five bucks because of it.

Cena put on a good show. He kept his gimmick, and while visably pissed (can't blame him) he kept kayfabe. Through all this booing, he's played it up. He hasn't gotten overly pissed, got mad at the fans- he's staying with his character and he's giving his all. Should he be champion? No. Should he be shoved down our throats? No. Should a chant saying 'Fuck You Cena' by heard and people get off on it? No. Jesus people, give the guy slack, it's not HIS fault he needs to turn. Jesus

Okay, I'm done with my poor rant that will just be laughed at and made fun of, but oh well. Anyway, I REALLY liked the show. A lot of wins caught me off guard (Show/Kane, RVD, JBL... Rey and Cena) and the whole PPV kept me watching to see what was happening.

I dunno how many times I marked out during the show. I marked out in every match BUT the Playboy match, which was just utter crap. I laughed at the various botches done by Trish, Mickie, and Rey during the match. I made a LOT of Orton jokes whenever anyone would crouch down. I marked the SHIT out for Michaels' spot, and for Hunter's entrance.

Also, does anyone know the name of the song played during Hunter's entrance? I know it's Motörhead, but is it a new song or what?
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Cena could have VERY WELL pulled a Goldberg/Lesnar WM20 by just basically saying 'Fuck it' and taken it loosely. But he DIDN'T.
Except, well, unlike those two, he kind of had to show back up for work the next day.
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Cena could have VERY WELL pulled a Goldberg/Lesnar WM20 by just basically saying 'Fuck it' and taken it loosely. But he DIDN'T. Anyone saying Cena didn't seem like the underdog is a tool. The whole way through I bet about everyone was expecting the lose by Cena. I did, and I lose five bucks because of it.
C'mon..I agree that John is doing a good job of playing off the boo's..but there's no way he could've pulled a Brock/Bill. Those two were both leaving the company immediately following WM. They had nothing to lose. Cena is making a very nice living doing what he's doing plus he's got a future to think of, so there's no fucking way he just mails in the main event at Wrestlemania.

You're anger at the Cena haters has got you talking gibberish.
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C'mon..I agree that John is doing a good job of playing off the boo's..but there's no way he could've pulled a Brock/Bill. Those two were both leaving the company immediately following WM. They had nothing to lose. Cena is making a very nice living doing what he's doing plus he's got a future to think of, so there's no fucking way he just mails in the main event at Wrestlemania.

You're anger at the Cena haters has got you talking gibberish.
Naw, he didn't HAVE to stay in character, do the little gimmick moves. He could have done it half-assed. Look at Hunter. Remember the Kliq incident in MSG? Did that REALLY hurt his career that much?

It's just amusing to me that Cena has an incredible work-rate, even though he gets booed out of the house. He puts on good matches, he knows how to work his character, and he's entertaining. Yet everyone hates him because of what the writers and bookers are doing. It's just getting to the point that it's making me dislike wrestling. I rarely ever see people giving props to Cena, and when someone does- they get flamed. Seems a little ignorant to me, I dunno.

However, I think Hunter did a REALLY good job putting Cena over. I think Hunter tapping to Cena was better than a pin. How many people have made Triple H tap? Benoit and Angle? I don't think Jericho has. Getting Hunter to tap is different than getting Edge to tap. Once again, I dunno, that's just how I see it.
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Naw, he didn't HAVE to stay in character, do the little gimmick moves. He could have done it half-assed. Look at Hunter. Remember the Kliq incident in MSG? Did that REALLY hurt his career that much?
Yeah, because one guy having the talent, ability, and mind to get through and overcome "punishment" means that no one that the WWE wants to punish will ever have their career hurt. Why, John Cena could piss on Vince McMahon right now, and Vince wouldn't be able to do anything.

Sorry, kid. If Cena fucked up (worse than he already does - I'm not a Cena fan at ALL, mind you, and I'll admit that, but bear with me), he would've jeopardized his career in the process.
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Also, does anyone know the name of the song played during Hunter's entrance? I know it's Motörhead, but is it a new song or what?
I'd have to listen to it again, but there was reports going around a while ago that Disturbed was gonna give HHH a new theme. I'm not totally sure, but that might have been the new Disturbed version.
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When's the last time a "Fuck you" chant made it onto WWE TV? I mean, sure, it was commonplace for ECW, but...
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When's the last time a "Fuck you" chant made it onto WWE TV? I mean, sure, it was commonplace for ECW, but...
you'll hear it tonight. thanks to such a shitty ending last night, my fellow wrestling fans here are going to pissed off tonight.

a friend of mine taped the show for me last night (since i sold my tickets for cash and 2 tickets for the white sox game and I'm going to Raw tonight) and I just got done watching it.... i just love how the crowd here doesn't take any shit. the night sucked outside of HBK/Vince & Edge/Jack. the crowd made everything else look better.

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Is there any logical reason why the most over man in the arena tapped out to the most underhyped and least over move in the entire company?
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Is there any logical reason why the most over man in the arena tapped out to the most underhyped and least over move in the entire company?
Think about what you just said for awhile and I promise it will eventually make sense.
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Is there any logical reason why the most over man in the arena tapped out to the most underhyped and least over move in the entire company?
because merchandising is a bigger agenda then beleiveability.
hopefully a really good angle... but i sincerly doubt it.

just be prepared for Cena and Trips: Hell IN A Cell
in like 2 months.
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No we won't. Only Wrestlemania has such a stron smark presence. Raw crowds are full of kids and if anything Cena will be getting cheered.
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No we won't. Only Wrestlemania has such a stron smark presence. Raw crowds are full of kids and if anything Cena will be getting cheered.
PPV, Raw, or House Show. Doesn't matter. It's in Chicago. The fans will show the ame spirit tonight as they did last night. It's in the same arena as well.
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PPV, Raw, or House Show. Doesn't matter. It's in Chicago. The fans will show the ame spirit tonight as they did last night. It's in the same arena as well.
Well I disagree. It's very rare to hear a strong smark crowd on Raw. I don't think the location has that much of an effect for a weekly television show.
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thing with Conan Triple H is I thought that was going to be the start of his new King of Kings's entrance, so I started laughing. It was a WTF moment

But then Cena did his own entrance so then I figured it was strictly a Wrestlemania thing

Cena retaining =

Rey winning =

The freak segment wanted Goldust and Booker T (plus Sharmell) to be a team again. Funniest segment of the night
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