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Old 11-28-2006, 03:32 PM   #401
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Scott Williamson's a pretty solid addition


As far as Zito goes, has there been any mumbling about that yet?
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:49 PM   #402
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I'm sure Scott Boras is holding off as long as possible to get the highest contract for Zito.
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What I'm reading is if JD is signed by the RedSox, they're going to move Manny. The RedSox would be fielding an outfield of Pena(L) Crisp(C) Drew(R)
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:19 PM   #404
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Oh right moving in JD Drew for Manny Ramirez eh makes sense if you're a fucking CLIT
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And in tomorrow's news, Boston trades David Ortiz for Matt Stairs and a hot-dog cart
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Good move. Hot-dog cart has very good clutch factor. I'd be afraid of that lineup with him and Ortiz in the 9th inning.
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ct2k, do you think they are going to trade Manny for JD Drew? (Who they are signing as a free agent.....)

I am sure they will getting something for Ramirez
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Yeah I know they won't trade them but yknow, I felt like mentioning Matt Stairs
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Cardinals sign Adam Kennedy - 3 years, $10 mil. Plus Kip Wells, Gary Bennett, and Eli Marrero.
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Cubs are said to be offering Jason Schmidt about $45 million for 3 years.
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:51 PM   #411
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I think we're looking at Ted Lilly and Shea Hillenbrand as our offseason additions. Serviceable. Lilly has a lot of potential, he just can never seem to put it all together. New York probably isn't the place for him to do it but even if he sucks as bad as some of our past pitchers we can still win, as we have every other year.

Not sure who's gonna be our backup catcher now that Gregg Zaun is off the market.
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Old 11-28-2006, 06:13 PM   #413
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Reports that the Yankees might have won the bid for Japanese pitcher Kei Igawa.

Pretty disappointed in this if its true, most reports are saying he will be the biggest bust of the offseason. He supposedly doesn't throw hard at all and is expected to be knocked around in the AL. Hopefully he'll surprise people but who knows.
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I don't know, he might be ok. Japanese pitchers are always a crapshoot. He's no more risky than Ted Lilly or Gil Mesche. At least we know this Igawa guy has put up good numbers in a professional setting. Lilly, Mesche and all the others on the market have always been mediocre (with the exception of Zito and Schmidt, of course, but we aren't targeting them). I'd say he's worth a shot.
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Just heard the bid was about 25 million. Kind of crazy that it's a bargain compared to Matsuzaka at this point.
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Manny would veto any trade not to a team of his liking, so it makes me think about Anaheim again, theres a team full of pitching, so if Boston does sign JD, I wouldn't be surprised to see Manny as an Angel.
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I dunno though, Matsuzaka has a lot more potential and a high ceiling though. Igawa is projected as a #5. Granted, anything can happen when trying to translate pitching in Japan into pitching over here.
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LA Times and the Chicago Sun Times are reporting that there is a deal on the table between the White Sox and the Angels that could be done soon.

White Sox get:
OF/3B Chone Figgins
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3B Joe Crede
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So Chicago gets a shitty outfielder and a decent pitcher, and LA gets a decent third baseman and a shitty pitcher.

Yeah, doesn't do much for me either.
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You have never watched a White Sox game have you?

He was the real MVP in the 2005 playoffs and has gotten robbed the last few years in the "Popularity Contest" that is the Gold Gloves.
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abd btw ct2k, Chacin and Blanton both started the same aount of games in the playoffs
 
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Crede is the man, agreed that he is one of the top defensive third basemen in the league, and he is a very solid hitter too.
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I really don't see the point in that trade at all

Freddy Garcia for Ervin Santana I mean that could go either way but why the HELL would you want Figgins going anywhere near 3B when you could have had Crede?

Did they by into the whole 'team of Chone Figgins' thing or something?
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Obviously the WSOX feel Santana is better than Garcia. They would conceivably get more years out of him and he still has untapped potential. Garcia has sort of peaked, is older. Chone gives them speed and versatility, Crede and Santana are the gems of this dealio.
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CWS definitely need some starting pitching more consistent than last years I'll give you that, but I just don't see why they'd want to give up Crede.

I guess the speed of Chone helps, but his ability to get on base is hardly all-star and when you've got Konerko, Dye and Thome in the line-up is the one base Figgins steals every 2 or 3 games going to make a huge difference in the long-run? Surely going after a speedy utility player at a cheap price would've been better than an overpriced MVP like Figgins
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How much is Figgins set to get out of interest?
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I wonder if there are any prospects in that deal... Figgins and Posednik batting 1-2?
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Last I heard, Red Sox are looking for 3 players for Ramirez
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:37 PM   #435
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I wonder if there are any prospects in that deal... Figgins and Posednik batting 1-2?

There would be prospects (I would imagine) and the feeling around town is that Posednik will be gone by spring training as well.
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:48 PM   #436
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I really don't see the point in that trade at all

Freddy Garcia for Ervin Santana I mean that could go either way but why the HELL would you want Figgins going anywhere near 3B when you could have had Crede?

Did they by into the whole 'team of Chone Figgins' thing or something?
Santana is younger and has more upside right now than Garcia, since most people say that Freddy has already peaked in this rotation.

Thanks to Satan Boras, it looks to be a long shot to sign Crede to a longterm deal without having to drop some MAJOR coin on him (he deserves it).

And as long as Josh Fields is around, Figgins will never see full-time duty at 3rd.

There is now talks that Gracia and prospects will go to LA and that Crede could go to Texas for Mike Young.
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DECENT 3RD BASEMAN?

You have never watched a White Sox game have you?

He was the real MVP in the 2005 playoffs and has gotten robbed the last few years in the "Popularity Contest" that is the Gold Gloves.
Sorry I didn't hold one of your precious White Sox players to the highest pedestal. I agree that he's a great player, calm down.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:31 PM   #439
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I don't think he's really been getting robbed in Gold Gloves though
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Sorry I didn't hold one of your precious White Sox players to the highest pedestal. I agree that he's a great player, calm down.
Oh come on. It's got nothing to do with holding him on a pedestal. As an across the board baseball fan, I know that there are players better than who I root for on my hometown team.

I'm just calling you out on being ignorant to players on others teams by calling Crede a "decent" player.

Because as a baseball fan I think that Crede should be held up as an elite 3rd baseman. When it come down to it (as a defensive player), I'll take him over ARod anyday.

But... I like how he's a great player in your mind now.

Whatever.
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