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Old 06-26-2007, 03:11 AM   #1
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It doesn't say in what condition the bodies were in, that's important to remember. Just because it said there were no bullet wounds doesn't mean there were no wounds of any type. I think that immediately makes us think of strangulation or something else. There are numerous other things that could have happened, far too many to speculate on.

As to whether or not this changes my perception of him... well, I didn't know him, but the way I imagined him seems very much in line with how his peers describe him: Passionate, took his work seriously, timid but tough, etc. This may or may not change how I percieve him as a person. I just don't know. I see people on the news all the time accused of such things and I think they're animals, now one of my idols is dead and accused of a heinous act and I have a hard time thinking of him as I do the others who have done the same thing.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:12 AM   #2
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I'm sorry if this comes off funny but I would assume Chris Benoit wouldn't need a weapon to kill a woman and a child.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:13 AM   #3
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I have saved some of the vids in the FLV? format, but you can d/l players to play them if anyone wants them. Think I got them all apart from CM Punk's.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:15 AM   #4
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I don't even know what to think. Benoit was one of my all time favorites, and really one of the only reasons I've even been remotely interested in wrestling at all these last couple years. As a performer he will always be one of the absolute best at professional wrestling, bar none.

Who knows how or why any of this happened. Part of me knows the evidence is saying he's a murderer, part of me is holding onto the belief that there will be another scenario found and his name will be cleared. I've been reading some of the posts and I agree with a lot of what's been said, and some people have just made assholes of themselves. But all I can say is if Chris Benoit did kill his wife and son, he was a piece of shit, plain and simple. You can find a way to condone killing someone if it was in the heat of the moment and the killer is sorry, but to kill a child? And moreover to kill your own child? That's just fuckin twisted and evil. I don't want this to sound like I'm jumping to conclusions, because I sincerely, sincerely hope Benoit did not do this. I want to remember him as a great performer and speak positively of his wrestling ability. And right now all of this is just theory and speculation anyway. Either way, Benoit was a great wrestler and no matter what happened he will always be one of the best in his profession.

My prayers go out to his family and friends and to Nancy's family and friends. This is truly a sad day for pro wrestling and for pro wrestling fans.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:20 AM   #5
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Im pretty sure Vince will be in the HOF to...er oh, wait a minute....


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Old 06-26-2007, 03:25 AM   #6
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Benoit will be HoF in '08 period. He's probably being coded into the Legends roster of SvR08 as we speak.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:27 AM   #7
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This is just fucking unbelievable.

I don't know what to think or feel.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:30 AM   #8
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Lord knows we can never underestimate the WWE and their ability to make stupid decisions. But, I really don't see him going in next year if it's ruled that he offed himself and his family. maybe years down the road after all the dust has settled, and I think then it's only a maybe. I really think this is going to hurt the wrestling business if one of the most popular/well respected wrestlers of the fans is rled as a murderor. I don't think even the WWE will touch that. Then again, controversy does create cash, and they did use Eddie's death.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:31 AM   #9
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If Benoit killed his family then im saying he will be in the HOF sometime after 5 years......

If he didnt kill his family then he will definently be in with in the next 5 years

Dont think he will be in it this year for sure....
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:37 AM   #10
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If he did kill his family and was in the HOF next year...would he be booed or cheered?
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:39 AM   #11
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Cheered, which is why he wouldnt be in there.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:40 AM   #12
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LOL

I was just thinking about how years ago my cousin and I would debate about whether or not OJ offed his Wife and that other guy and he'd swear up and down he didn't do it. I'd bring up the humorously incriminating evidence and wonder how somebody could look logic in the face and deny it because he had admiration for a public figure.

The jokes on me.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:40 AM   #13
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Unless some revelation comes to light clearing Benoit of this, I don't see him going in this year. I think it'll be at least five to ten years down the road before any induction occurs. Anyways, the Hall of Fame is somewhat superficial in regards to this whole situation. Unfortunately, history was written, and that history is that one of the most revered pro-wrestlers ever will have a huge tarnish on his legacy.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:41 AM   #14
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Yeah, on second thought, now that it's looking more and more like he did it... probably not going in. I don't know... I'd have to wait and see after this all dies down a little.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:42 AM   #15
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Its unfortunate but its his own fault.. i mean he fucking killed his wife.. you have to be fucked up to do that, but then the next day you KILL your son.. instead of maybe, sending him to his grandparents while you kill yourself..

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He didnt do it.......Im sticking to that
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:45 AM   #17
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While my instinct is to feel bad for Benoit, I immediately think of his youngest son and his two other children who are still living... then there's the footage of all of them celebrating after Benoit's Wrestlemania XX win... and that's the saddest part.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:47 AM   #18
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Fucking shocking. RIP
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:51 AM   #19
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I'm going to assume substance abuse of some sort until proven otherwise.
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Or a mental disease. A mental disease untreated can take over a person completely, and it is not implausible that a 22-year pro wrestling veteran could have developed some mental disease...especially after all the tragedies over the past few years.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:57 AM   #21
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I don't want to make excuses, but I can't believe that Chris Benoit just decided to kill his family one night.
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Nothing in the story so far points to substance abuse, sorry fellas.
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'k, so I lied and checked again.

And you know what? If he killed his family, under no condition do I condone the act at all.

But for those of you wondering how a guy like Benoit could snap like that... well, insanity... mental decay... it's a sinisterly powerful thing. It can cause anyone to be driven to kill.


BTW, where does it say his son died on Sunday? Everything I've read has said Daniel and Nancy died before Benoit, but implied they died at around the same time. Haven't read anything that suggests Daniel died on Sunday, rather than Saturday.
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Basically, what I'm saying is that if it turns out Benoit murdered his family, don't suddenly defame his whole life. The act was unforgivable, but I'm convinced (and all evidence and testimony points to) a moment (or a long one) of insanity. And like I've said: one act can ruin your life. And the lives of others.
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Cops Suspect Murder-Suicide in Killings of Pro Wrestler Chris Benoit and His Family

Tuesday , June 26, 2007

FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. —
WWE wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife and son were found dead Monday, and police said they were investigating the deaths as a murder-suicide. Detective Bo Turner told WAGA-TV the case was being treated as a murder-suicide, but said that couldn't be confirmed until evidence was examined by a crime lab.
The station said investigators believe the 40-year-old Benoit killed his wife, Nancy, and 7-year-old son, Daniel, over the weekend, then himself on Monday. The bodies were found in three rooms.
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World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that it asked authorities to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who received "several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning."
Lead investigator Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department told The Associated Press the deaths were being investigated as homicides, and that autopsies were to be performed Tuesday. Pope said the bodies were discovered about 2:30 p.m., but refused to release details.
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The house is in a secluded neighborhood set back about 60 yards off a gravel road, surrounded by stacked stone wall and a double-iron gate. On Monday night, the house was dark except for a few outside lights. There was a police car in front, along with two uniformed officers.
Benoit was a former world heavyweight and Intercontinental champion. He also held several tag-team titles during his career.
"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the organization said in a statement on its Web site.
Benoit was scheduled to perform at the "Vengeance" pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called "personal reasons."
The native of Canada maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling.
The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.
"My relationship with Chris has extended many years and I consider him a great friend," Carl DeMarco, the president of WWE Canada, said in a statement. "Chris was always first-class — warm, friendly, caring and professional one of the best in our business."



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Not really sure of the point in posting this. People have already linked or alluded to this general AP article.

But as long as they still say "haven't confirmed," there's still a tiny bit of hope left in my heart.
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I don't know if I want to read the autopsy results tommorrow.
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I read somewhere that in additional to police ruling out gunshot wounds, they also said there were no stabbings. So I guess I find dark humor in Impact's suggestion that it was KNIFE edge chops...

In confusing times of grief, sometimes humor is the only thing we can turn to.
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Old 06-26-2007, 04:19 AM   #32
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Ok james, we get it.
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Old 06-26-2007, 04:32 AM   #33
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Saddening and sickening...

...still, I don't see Benoit killing his family...why would he even want to. Not sure why....something doesn't sit right with me...

Still, fucking saddening....


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Holy shit! I'm still up and looking around for more info. And on the ABCnews.com comment page, one person is even blaming Vince for this!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/comments?type=story&id=3315789
Has anyone even considered the fact that Chris Benoit canceled his appearance for a world title match at the pay per view at the last minute for a family emergency, which would shake the foundation of WWE's original plan to name him champion of the world?? This would totally change what Mcmahon's plan for the ppv. Then suddenly he and his family are dead???? One thing you don't do is back out on a billionaire at the last minute. Now we all see the power of money and its power over law enforcement as well as the media. Why are all wrestling chat rooms closed down and why has Mr. Mchahon not made a statement himself? We all truly believe Benoit would never do such a horrendous act. This was the works of a billionaire on a power trip who will go as far to have two people and a little boy murdered just for his publicity acts. Benoit would never do this, but we all know Mr. Mcmahon would in a heartbeat just for another 0 to be added to his bank account.
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Holy shit! I'm still up and looking around for more info. And on the ABCnews.com comment page, one person is even blaming Vince for this!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/comments?type=story&id=3315789
Has anyone even considered the fact that Chris Benoit canceled his appearance for a world title match at the pay per view at the last minute for a family emergency, which would shake the foundation of WWE's original plan to name him champion of the world?? This would totally change what Mcmahon's plan for the ppv. Then suddenly he and his family are dead???? One thing you don't do is back out on a billionaire at the last minute. Now we all see the power of money and its power over law enforcement as well as the media. Why are all wrestling chat rooms closed down and why has Mr. Mchahon not made a statement himself? We all truly believe Benoit would never do such a horrendous act. This was the works of a billionaire on a power trip who will go as far to have two people and a little boy murdered just for his publicity acts. Benoit would never do this, but we all know Mr. Mcmahon would in a heartbeat just for another 0 to be added to his bank account.
Vince is a business man, for one (not saying you're wrong or anything, or saying you are retarded for saying this, just saying this because this is how I see it). And, I'm guessing he doesn't want to make any details public while an investigation is going on.
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He made an announcement on raw, fuck sake how many times must i say this? He looked truly shocked himself so i don't think he did it, but, I wouldn't put it past him.
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He made an announcement on raw, fuck sake how many times must i say this? He looked truly shocked himself so i don't think he did it, but, I wouldn't put it past him.
Vince McMahon may have screwed Bret Hart and gobbled up a bunch of small territories, but has he done anything even remotely resembling some type of physical violence towards someone to spike a rating or buyrate?

People need to get off of this "Vince is evil" shit. Shrewd business man who will do some wacky things for the sake of a wrestling-entertainment show? Yeah. Some gigantic criminal who kills kids and families? Uh.. no.

Anyone who even think McMahon is remotely responsible for this needs a serious wake-up call. It's such a ridiculous thought it boggles my mind. While we're theorizing, maybe it was The Undertaker... that's a possibility. He takes souls, right?
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ROFL are you kidding me? People are even seriously considering the idea of Vince McMahon killing Benoit and part of his family?
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I'm not saying he did it, Im just saying i wouldnt put it past him.
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I don't get it. Not even Vince would see someone get killed just for money and ratings. Hell, that was most of the reason why he released Angle!

And I don't know if this has been pointed out yet, but I had an eerie thought. Eddie was supposed to win the World Title the day he passed, and now it seems Benoit was going to win the ECW title on his passing. Odd coincidence.
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