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Old 11-23-2007, 02:55 PM   #1
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Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, citing a ‘major-league source,’ reports A’s LHP Joe Kennedy died Friday morning at his home in Florida.

According to Rosenthal, the cause of death has not been determined.

The 28-year old left-hander was 43-61 with a 4.79 ERA in his seven-year career.

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R.I.P Joe
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:03 PM   #4
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Francisco Cordero to the Reds: 4 years, $46 million
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:14 PM   #5
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:34 PM   #6
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:22 AM   #7
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Is that a done deal? I don't think it's a done deal yet.

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lol Yankee fans. On their message board they all speak like it is a definite that they'll get Santana, if not in 2008 then in 2009.

It's gonna take a 7 or 8 year deal worth at least $130 million to get Johan to sign right now. Any deal longer than 4 years for a pitcher scares the crap out of me...but for Johan I'd make an exception.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:23 PM   #9
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What gets me is, everyone seems to be making the Twins out to be bad guys because they are demanding at least one established MLB star plus multiple top prospects. If you were the Twins and you were set to trade the best pitcher in baseball, why would you ask for anything less?
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If the players can get the most for themselves, the team should be able to as well.
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Giants are gonna be shopping Benji Molina. Mets are interested. However they are letting Johnny Estrada get one foot in the door in the organization and may trade him for Benji. They want someone better behind the plate. But if they can't find anybody, Estrada gets the nod.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:03 PM   #13
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Peter Gammons is reporting that the Twins will want Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera and Austin Jackson in a package for Johan Santana.

I dunno mannnnnnnn. I don't know if I want to trade Hughes. Perhaps we can swing some sort of deal with Ian Kennedy and someone else.
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:40 PM   #14
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Peter Gammons is reporting that the Twins will want Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera and Austin Jackson in a package for Johan Santana.

I dunno mannnnnnnn. I don't know if I want to trade Hughes. Perhaps we can swing some sort of deal with Ian Kennedy and someone else.
Yeah, pretty much with you on Hughes. Looking forward to seeing him at full strength for a full season. After the injuries he never really got the velocity back up to where he usually was. I assume he'll be back 100% next year.

Trading for Santana might seem like an obvious choice but still. Hughes is 7 years younger. I really do hope the Yankees put Kennedy, Melky, Tabata and Horne or somebody in a package for Santana and don't include Hughes. If they can't get it without Hughes then move on I'd say.
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While still in negotiating the fine details, Yankees and A-Rod have agreed to a $30 mil. marketing deal. Here's what has been revealed right now.

$6 mil. for tying Mays', Ruth's, Aaron's, and Barry Bonds' #762 Home Run records.

Addtional $6 mil. if he ends up passing Bonds in the end.

Other stuff is still being worked out in it.
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I don't see the Twins going for that deal...they are gonna want Cano on top of it.

I really think Johan is gonna remain a Twin until sometime in July. They have Liriano coming back and a chance to contend in 2008. If they are out of it (or at least a longshot) by July, then they'll deal him.

I'd like to see the Mets send over Milledge, Heilman, and Mulvey for Dan Haren (who is ridiculously affordable for the next 3 years)...then make a run at Santana in the offseason (I see him hitting the FA market no matter what)
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I think that ARod bonus stuff is really telling. It's all out personal bonuses based solely on HRs, not about winning championships,etc. Like they think him passing Mays is going to be a big thing to 'America'. They'll try to market it as such, but I really don't think it's going to be a big revenue stream for them. Start winning some championships and playing the game hard.
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The only reason the giants didnt shit can Bonds was for the HR record. That chase will bring in 10 tiems that 30 million in ad revenue and ticket sales. I saw an article about how much money was made off bonds, let me see if I can find it. It was fucking crazy how much TV money they make off these events.
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The only reason the giants didnt shit can Bonds was for the HR record. That chase will bring in 10 tiems that 30 million in ad revenue and ticket sales. I saw an article about how much money was made off bonds, let me see if I can find it. It was fucking crazy how much TV money they make off these events.
Breaking The record again, so relatively soon won't have the same effect. That's my onion anyway. Yes, I said onion.
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Some news from Rotoworld

Cubs agreed to terms with RHP Kerry Wood on a one-year contract.

The Cubs didn't disclose the value of the deal, but it's been reported as $4 million. For the second year in a row, the 30-year-old Wood opted to stay with the Cubs despite promises of more interesting offers elsewhere. In return, the Cubs figure to give him the first shot at taking over their closer's role.

Free agent Mike Piazza reportedly will consider going to Japan if he can't land a guaranteed deal in the U.S.

Barry Bonds' apparent removal from the market would seem to help Piazza's chances of landing a DH job, but no one seems interested so far. Perhaps that will begin to change next month.
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Your 2008 Hall of Fame ballot. Let the debating begin.

• Brady Anderson
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• Rod Beck
• Bert Blyleven
• Dave Concepcion
• Andre Dawson
• Shawon Dunston
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• Travis Fryman
• Rich "Goose" Gossage
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• Mark McGwire
• Jack Morris
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Mattingly will never make it
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Mattingly will never make it
Maybe in a few years he might.

Goose Gossage will definately get it this time around. He missedout by 21 votes last year.
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he is one of the top 3 guys on hat weak ballot...maybe
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Wonder if McGwire will make it this year.
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Beck gets waived on the 5-year rule because he died.
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Beck gets waived on the 5-year rule because he died.
seems he is only on the ballot only because he died, his numbers are above average but def not HOF.
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I think this is Jim Rice's last year on the ballot.
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I would absolutely vote for Blyleven, Dawson, Gossage, McGwire, and Parker. Concepcion, Murphy, Rice, and Smith should get consideration too.
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Really weak class.

I don't understand how Blyleven isn't in. 287 wins, 3.31 ERA, 5th in career strikeouts.

I like Blyleven and Gossage to get in. Dawson is borderline for me. I think Lee Smith should be in but I don't know if he'll get in. I think it's too soon for McGwire.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:17 AM   #38
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Rice should of been in a long time ago. Compare his numbers to all the other left fielders in the HOF and he's right there. I don't understand what they are waiting for
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I'm not sold on Rice at all. His numbers just aren't very impressive.

.298, 382 HR, 2452 H, barely slugged over .500 (.502). He does have one MVP. He was a solid hitter but nothing really stands out. It's not like he has a really high batting average, a lot of home runs a lot of stolen bases or a particularly good glove (no gold gloves, also, weak defensive position). He was a really good player who had a lot of really good seasons but definitely not HOF worthy in my book.

He's similar to Don Mattingly. Great player, had a few really good years, but in the end the numbers just don't add up.
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