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Old 08-24-2008, 11:54 PM   #1
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:28 AM   #2
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I have always loved Eli and never played the no respect card. I may have mentioned it in discussions but I don't bring it up habitually. Anyway, Giants > Eagles.
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Legend is still pissed that Osi Umenyiora sacked the Eagles 6 times in a game
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Remember when the most obnoxious Eagles fan ever (I know, that's saying something) used to post here? Like... way beyond typical Eagles fan. It wasn't legend. I can't remember his name.
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Remember when the most obnoxious Eagles fan ever (I know, that's saying something) used to post here? Like... way beyond typical Eagles fan. It wasn't legend. I can't remember his name.
wordlifemutha or something like that. Then he changed his name to Rain man.

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Old 08-25-2008, 02:31 PM   #8
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God I am thinking about it... the NFC seems real awful this year. Who is going to be good? The Cowboys... the Giants... I think that is it.
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God I am thinking about it... the NFC seems real awful this year. Who is going to be good? The Cowboys... the Giants... I think that is it.
I really can't see The Giants making the playoffs. People say "Remember, they won the Super Bowl" but they got in as a Wild Card Team with a defense that has lost three of their best players...

I'm thinking the NFC playoff teams will be Dallas, Green Bay, New Orleans, Seattle, Philadelphia, and Minnesota. Just off the top of my head. I think there will be some pretty good teams in that pack but compared to the AFC, yeah, it's a drop off.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:46 PM   #10
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Honestly, the NFC East could easily be a toss up. It all depends on who can stay healthy and so far the Giants are losing that battle.
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:36 PM   #11
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The Vikings may be good

depending on Tarvaris Jackson
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Saying the Giants won't make the playoffs this year is really dumb IMO.

And it seems like everyone is saying it. I don't understand that at all. I think like 98% they will make the playoffs. The NFC is awful and they are a really good team. The Osi injury is big but it's not going to destroy the entire team.
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Saying the Giants won't make the playoffs this year is really dumb IMO.

And it seems like everyone is saying it. I don't understand that at all. I think like 98% they will make the playoffs. The NFC is awful and they are a really good team. The Osi injury is big but it's not going to destroy the entire team.
They struggled to get into the playoffs last year and they had a much better team. How no one understands that people don't think they would get in is beyond me.
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Its not even the loss of Osi and the production (13 sacks last year, team high) but the whole mental aspect of it.
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Its not even the loss of Osi and the production (13 sacks last year, team high) but the whole mental aspect of it.
That is true but I think they will get over it unless more players start going down. The Giants defense always seems to be decimated by injuries every year.
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That is true but I think they will get over it unless more players start going down. The Giants defense always seems to be decimated by injuries every year.
Well if they move Kiwi back to DE they will still have depth, plus another player who is a natural DE, not a converted LB. However it remains to be seen who they will plug in at the SLB in place of Kiwi, if that move is made. I think Tuck will be able to produce, but there needs to be a viable threat or some damn creative schemes in order to maintain the Giants defensive philosophy.
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Well if they move Kiwi back to DE they will still have depth, plus another player who is a natural DE, not a converted LB. However it remains to be seen who they will plug in at the SLB in place of Kiwi, if that move is made. I think Tuck will be able to produce, but there needs to be a viable threat or some damn creative schemes in order to maintain the Giants defensive philosophy.
Coughlin announced today that, for the moment (ie barring Strahan), the plan is for Kiwi to be at DE...Danny Clark starts at SLB with Gerris Wilkinson getting the nod at WLB.

Before this, they had 9 LB but likely only 7 spots. Kiwi, Pierce, Wilkinson, Clark, DeOssie, Kehl, Goff, Blackburn, and Daniels.

Now Kiwi's back to DE...and Goff might have to go on IR or the PUP list or something, so all of them probably are safe now.
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Because by the end of the year and into the playoffs they were the hottest/best team in football? And the rest of the NFC is awful? There is no way 6 teams from the NFC will be better than them this year.
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Because by the end of the year and into the playoffs they were the hottest/best team in football? And the rest of the NFC is awful? There is no way 6 teams from the NFC will be better than them this year.
6 teams don't need to be better than them.

Assuming they don't win the division (Which I definitely can't see them doing) there only needs to be two teams that didn't win their division better than them.

I think Philly will get in as a wild card as well as either Minnesota or Green Bay.
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That's why i give them a year for some serious playoff buzz. I think next year, they will be what Houston was last year.
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They need to pick up a big play receiver though
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Are you kidding? Roddy White might be one of the best kept secrets from last year. Our receiving core has actually got me excited...they've been catching a whole lot more than during the Vick era.
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Yeah, exactly.

Also, Tatupu left the Hawks game on crutches, which is awesome for the Rams.
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Saints released FB Kevin Dudley yesterday.. It's sad cause he a beast, but Mike Karney is beastier.. Dudley was on our practice squad all last year.. If any team needs a good solid true full back, he'd prolly be a steal..
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David Carr is such a good qb. I can't believe no team would make him their starting QB. His problem was that his team sucked, it's like saying a pitcher is bad because he lost 15 games
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I've always thought he could play well given the chance with a decent team, but the poor guy had the unfortunate situation of being on a team where he got the shit kicked out of him year in and year out. During the Browns game the announcers had mentioned that Carr was admittedly skittish in the pocket and tried to get rid of the ball as quick as possible due to the amount of times he used to get hit. Imagine if he had the chance to start with a decent line in front of him what he might be able to do.

Thats why I've always thought that the NFL requires a little bit of luck. You need the talent, but you need the luck to fall into the right situation to succeed as well.
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The point I was trying to make was that Carr was good in college.. He even took Fresno State to a top 10 ranking.. He was hyped coming into the league, picked in the first round, and def had (or has) the skills to win in the NFL.. But he never got there because of the shitty team around him.. For people to say how great the Falcons are gonna be when they lost every "superstar" they've had this decade, have a new, first time, head coach, no receiving corp, no defense, and their biggest offensive weapons are a second year RB, and potentially good, yet unproven backup RB, and an unproven rookie QB, I def wouldn't grantee too many "great" things from them for the next few years..
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The point I was trying to make was that Carr was good in college.. He even took Fresno State to a top 10 ranking.. He was hyped coming into the league, picked in the first round, and def had (or has) the skills to win in the NFL.. But he never got there because of the shitty team around him.. For people to say how great the Falcons are gonna be when they lost every "superstar" they've had this decade, have a new, first time, head coach, no receiving corp, no defense, and their biggest offensive weapons are a second year RB, and potentially good, yet unproven backup RB, and an unproven rookie QB, I def wouldn't grantee too many "great" things from them for the next few years..
Well you could be 100% right, David Carr and Matt Ryan after very different players. Carr played in Jeff Tedford's system which has produced some other extremely over hyped college QBs (due to their stats in college) such as Kyle Boller and Joey Harrington. Matt Ryan played in an NFL style offense and excelled in it in his first year (Boston College switched its coaching staff for his senior year)
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Well you could be 100% right, David Carr and Matt Ryan after very different players. Carr played in Jeff Tedford's system which has produced some other extremely over hyped college QBs (due to their stats in college) such as Kyle Boller and Joey Harrington. Matt Ryan played in an NFL style offense and excelled in it in his first year (Boston College switched its coaching staff for his senior year)
Bingo!

I'm not picking the Falcons to be great, but I wouldn't be shocked to see them compete for a WC or possible the division.

I'm just not 100% sold on anyone in that division and it's not just Ryan for me, it's Turner, any SD fan I've talked to thinks he can be just as good as LT, maybe even better...

sure, he could be a bust, but so could everyone...

the OL issues are a good point and I hope that will be a target next year, but Ryan is a big guy and can take a hit.

fuck... is it week 1 yet..
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Breaking news, Strahan elects to stay retired. Awesome.
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Dammit

Ah well, Kiwi's gonna be on the line, which is good. Gotta hope Wynn or Tollefson can step in as a solid 3rd DE.

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But is still unproven..

It just amazes that a team striped of any bit of credibility, with no stars left, people are picking to be great within the next year..

As I've said numerous times, sure they gained Turner, who has the potential to be good, but has never been a premiere back.. Same with Ryan.. He is a good QB, but hasn't proven himself at the pro level.. That topped with the fact they have no out standing WR, lost their probowl TE to the Titans, have a struggling o-line, and lost the only shutdown player they had on defense (Hall), I just don't see how people are crowning them as a great team with so many unporven elements, and loosing what proven elements they had..
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But is still unproven..

It just amazes that a team striped of any bit of credibility, with no stars left, people are picking to be great within the next year..

As I've said numerous times, sure they gained Turner, who has the potential to be good, but has never been a premiere back.. Same with Ryan.. He is a good QB, but hasn't proven himself at the pro level.. That topped with the fact they have no out standing WR, lost their probowl TE to the Titans, have a struggling o-line, and lost the only shutdown player they had on defense (Hall), I just don't see how people are crowning them as a great team with so many unporven elements, and loosing what proven elements they had..
Yeah those are all good points (although Roddy White is a pretty good WR, I dunno if he's "outstanding" but he's an NFL #1 in my mind) about the Falcons. I dunno if they are gonna compete this year or next but I think they'll be a lot better than last year, last year was just a complete shitshow thanks to the whole Vick thing.
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