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Old 09-11-2009, 10:35 PM   #1
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Please.

You would have thrown a bitchfit if Hetfield was rapping like that in GH:M
I wouldn't give a shit because I know it's NOT REAL.
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Old 09-11-2009, 06:39 PM   #2
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Guys, stop. Let's discuss the real issue at hand. Why were Lars and Kirk tonguing each other? Pretty gay, right?
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:02 PM   #3
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I would mind Metallica being used for other songs. That's weak sauce. I can care less what the next man is doing with his game.
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:41 PM   #5
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Whatever dude. Arrested Development sucks.
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That was an RHCP cover tho.
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Yeah was about to bring up cash. How about Hendrix?

Also, Cobain is dead, so he doesn't have to see image misrepresented. Everybody wins!
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:48 PM   #10
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It's an image issue.

Going back to Kalyx's comparison, Andre The Giant wrestling in an a new match type that wasn't created during the time he was alive is fine. Andre The Giant wearing pink blouses, a rainbow afro, and performing the People's Elbow as his special move while in these matches is not.

Kurt Cobain playing modern hits with other created band members or legends is fine. Kurt Cobain playing right handed and wiggitywiggity rapping is not.
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:46 PM   #11
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It's an image issue.

Going back to Kalyx's comparison, Andre The Giant wrestling in an a new match type that wasn't created during the time he was alive is fine. Andre The Giant wearing pink blouses, a rainbow afro, and performing the People's Elbow as his special move while in these matches is not.

Kurt Cobain playing modern hits with other created band members or legends is fine. Kurt Cobain playing right handed and wiggitywiggity rapping is not.
Of course, in a couple of games, you can change his moveset and entrance...Sounds like Kalyx's point may have more depth than you would argue.

I'm confused as to where the line is, honestly. Like, okay, him scratching is bad. What if I have him as the vocalist for some whiny emo son...Bad example. What if I have him as my vocalist when I play "Old Time Rock 'n'Roll?" Can he do the slide? Is it okay if he sings "I'm only happy when it rains?" Scratching is wrong, but mincing and prancing and singing like a girl is okay? Perhaps there are other genres and acts that should be off limits.
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:49 PM   #12
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Of course, in a couple of games, you can change his moveset and entrance...Sounds like Kalyx's point may have more depth than you would argue.

I'm confused as to where the line is, honestly. Like, okay, him scratching is bad. What if I have him as the vocalist for some whiny emo son...Bad example. What if I have him as my vocalist when I play "Old Time Rock 'n'Roll?" Can he do the slide? Is it okay if he sings "I'm only happy when it rains?" Scratching is wrong, but mincing and prancing and singing like a girl is okay? Perhaps there are other genres and acts that should be off limits.
They don't slide in on Old Time Rock N Roll on GH 5. Only on World Tour.
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:50 PM   #13
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Of course, in a couple of games, you can change his moveset and entrance...Sounds like Kalyx's point may have more depth than you would argue.

I'm confused as to where the line is, honestly. Like, okay, him scratching is bad. What if I have him as the vocalist for some whiny emo son...Bad example. What if I have him as my vocalist when I play "Old Time Rock 'n'Roll?" Can he do the slide? Is it okay if he sings "I'm only happy when it rains?" Scratching is wrong, but mincing and prancing and singing like a girl is okay? Perhaps there are other genres and acts that should be off limits.
Yeah, that's another situation to get into. "Why is scratching comsidered bad? Is rap not music? etc."

And yeah, "re-locking" so he doesn't prance like a girl does make sense. Again, it falls on the developers to make sure stuff like that doesn't happen. If they made it so that each legend performs their signature style during each song then I don't think we'd have this problem.

Also, I think everyone is complaining about Cobain because it hits closer to home for them. Mostly 20somethings and younger are playing this game and were probably affected by grunge movement. Hence all the backlash.

Doesn't mean Cash and Santana should be overlooked though.

Who else is unlockable? I know the Garbage/Terminator chick is.
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Also, the suicide aspect. Didn't mean to overlook thatm
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Simple Solution. Don't make Cobain your singer on those songs!
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No one has explained yet, how this tarnishes cobain's image. That is my biggest issue with all this nonsense.
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No one has explained yet, how this tarnishes cobain's image. That is my biggest issue with all this nonsense.
The issue seems to be being made because Kurt Cobain always had issues with the shallow state of the music business. Essentially, a lot of his fans are pissed because they feel this would be something Kurt Cobain would have hated, and would have been 100% against. They see this as totally against his ideals, and essentially as a slap in his face.

I'm not saying I agree, but I understand.
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The issue seems to be being made because Kurt Cobain always had issues with the shallow state of the music business. Essentially, a lot of his fans are pissed because they feel this would be something Kurt Cobain would have hated, and would have been 100% against. They see this as totally against his ideals, and essentially as a slap in his face.

I'm not saying I agree, but I understand.
Oh no, I get that much. I think you'd have to be daft not to at least understand why some people are upset, even if you don't agree. But it doesn't really tarnish his image at all, imo. It's not like he ok'd all this and sold out. He's dead. He had no say in the matter. Ya know?
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The issue seems to be being made because Kurt Cobain always had issues with the shallow state of the music business. Essentially, a lot of his fans are pissed because they feel this would be something Kurt Cobain would have hated, and would have been 100% against. They see this as totally against his ideals, and essentially as a slap in his face.

I'm not saying I agree, but I understand.

It's like, I get the idea, but the rest seems silly. Like, first off, we're talking about a game where his music was already licensed. Seems pretty hypocritical right there, especially since the main draw of having his music in the game is because we're talking top forty hits. People are arguing what they claim Kurt would have wanted mostly because they put him on a pedestal mostly in a way contrary to their belief of his ideals.

Personally, I think he was a corporate shill marketing counter-culture, so I don't give a shit. Offing himself ensured he was an icon, more or less permanently, so it seems really dumb to argue his ideals when his final act was basically to become the sort of shallow media icon his beliefs opposed.

Of course, maybe they're all retards and believe the Cuntney love theory, and therefore can justify it, but it's still stupid.
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haha, I dont think killing himself was so that he could become some permanent rock god/martyr...the man was fucked up and depressed, nothing more or less.

As for Courtney, come on. She's the same woman who sold the rights to publish Kurt's memoirs and journals. She pretends to act all offended but fuck it if she isn't still using Kurt to line her pockets. Lord knows her claim to fame has always been through him.
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No one has explained yet, how this tarnishes cobain's image. That is my biggest issue with all this nonsense.
It really doesn't. It's a computer animated image, not the man himself. I'm a huge Nirvana fan but I dont even think Kurt himself would seriously give a fuck. He'd probably find it somewhat amusing.
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i dunno, watching cobain sing bon jovi is kind of akin to watching johnny rotten sing yes
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Jesus Christ can have regular apperances on south park and family guy, but a cartoon cobain can't rap.

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I'm not even religious, and that offends me.
Lots of bleeding vaginas out there. The smell alone is bound to offend.
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:48 PM   #27
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I don't know why it's a big deal, as he sucks horribly anyway.
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:50 PM   #28
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And the guy from Muse.
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And the guy from Muse.

Im a HUGE Muse fan, and I don't give a rats ass if Matt Bellamy is singing Elton John songs in a FUCKING VIDEO GAME.
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:56 AM   #30
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Well yeah because The Guy From Muse is hardly an icon.
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:19 PM   #31
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It's not like they're reanimating his corpse. People need to settle down.
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:26 PM   #32
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I'm a huge Cobain/Nirvana fan and I couldn't care less, tbh.
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Yeah like I said, just don't use him for that shit.
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Actually, to Tornado, Bellamy is bigger than cobain.
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Actually, to Tornado, Bellamy is bigger than cobain.

To me, he's bigger than Jesus.
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At least Bellamy is real.









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I'm gonna unlock Kurt and have him sing everything but his music.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:36 PM   #39
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Seriously. All this nonsense makes me want to do it.
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Then he off'd himself.
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