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Old 12-07-2009, 01:24 PM   #401
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:39 PM   #402
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Dodgers desperately trying to move Juan Pierre, even if they have to take a bad-contract starting pitcher in return.

Oliver Perez, please.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:13 PM   #403
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The Hot Stove is even more fucking nuts now that pretty much every baseball writer there has a Twitter account. They'll make a tweet one minute of an impending transaction and then another writer will usually then deny it on their own account. Rinse, lather, and repeat all day.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:24 PM   #404
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Well I won't lie I got really excited about that Edwin Jackson rumor. 11 minutes later its all over. Gotta love how the hot stove gets ya.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:39 PM   #405
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LOL the best part about the hot stove was Ozzie Guillen getting interviewed

Reporter: What was wrong with Alexis Rios, was it mechanical or Mental?

Ozzie: Everything
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:41 PM   #406
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Dodgers desperately trying to move Juan Pierre, even if they have to take a bad-contract starting pitcher in return.

Oliver Perez, please.
We will give Jeremy Bonderman, Brandon Inge's ugly ass wife, and a million dollars for him. Can you top that?
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:34 PM   #407
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I love MLB Network so much. I mean, it was amazing during the summer and I had it on constantly, but their offseason coverage and programming is really clutch. They could easily pack it in, but the channels even better because it delivers nothing but baseball talk during a time where you can't get it anywhere else.
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Yankees trade Brian Bruney to the Nationals for a PTBNL
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We get the Nats pick in the Rule 5 Draft. The #1 pick exactly.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:12 PM   #409
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That's actually an even better trade for the Nats then, because even if the Yanks were to pick somebody in the Rule 5 draft, they'd have a helluva time making the roster AND staying there the entire season.
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It's now making the rounds that the Cardinals have signed Brad Penny to a 1-year deal for $7.5 million, plus $1.5 million in incentives.
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The Os want Kevin Millwood from the Rangers..why I dont know..
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:55 PM   #412
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Brewers could be closing in on a 3 yr deal with Randy Wolf.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:03 PM   #413
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well fuck. we need starters.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:07 PM   #414
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The D'Backs pushed for a blockbuster three-way deal with the Yankees and Tigers today, only to see one of those two teams veto it, according to Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The deal would have sent Curtis Granderson to the Yanks and Edwin Jackson to the D'Backs.

Talks are apparently at an "impasse" now, though the D'Backs continue to push for a trade
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:11 PM   #415
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Wonder what it would have taken on the Yanks end. I know earlier I saw the Tigers wanting Hughes and Austin Jackson for him. Definitely wouldn't include Hughes in a deal for Granderson. I mean he's good but not as great as I'm sure the Tigers are making him out to be.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:17 PM   #416
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The deal would send Curtis Granderson to the Yanks, along with a prospect or two from the D'Backs. Arizona would obtain Edwin Jackson from the Tigers and Ian Kennedy from the Yankees. The Tigers would obtain Max Scherzer from the D'Backs and Austin Jackson, Phil Coke and Michael Dunn from the Yanks.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:22 PM   #417
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Didn't realize the Tigers were gutting their roster this offseason.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:28 PM   #418
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Yeah they basically announced their intent once the season ended. Past 2-3 years they bloated their team salary past $100 million and have gotten worse or choke away the division each time. It doesn't help that Detroit is in a mess because of the recession so the fans might not show up or be willing to pay current prices for tickets regardless if the team is great next year.
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I don't really understand why Arizona would give up Scherzer for Jackson. And apparently they're the team pushing the whole trade.
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IF DAVE DOMBROWSKI DOES THIS TRADE I WILL WET MYSELF
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I don't really understand why Arizona would give up Scherzer for Jackson. And apparently they're the team pushing the whole trade.
I don't get it at all.
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Nationals sign Pudge to a 2-year deal. God dammit, now Bengie Molina is going to want 2 guaranteed years.
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Think it's kinda funny to see guys who waited too long and had to settle for one-year deals in '09 (Abreu, Wolf, Pudge, etc) immediately locking in to the first multi-year offer they can get.
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Nationals sign Pudge to a 2-year deal. God dammit, now Bengie Molina is going to want 2 guaranteed years.
Pudge is that desperate....

Figured you guys would have swooped in and picked him up.
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In other news:

Tigers re-sign Adam Everett to a 1-year, $1.55 mil. deal.

Randy Wolf seems to be on his way to Milwaukee. A 3-year deal is in the works.
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I'm on the fence about that Granderson deal. I think he would fit in nicely in the outfield, but I think we were giving up too much for him. Coke was pretty good in the playoffs and one of the guys I was comfortable with pitching the 6th/7th.

You guys know I'm not sold on Jackson yet until he does anything in the big leagues, but he's still our #1 prospect

And Ian Kennedy; meh deal him.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:22 AM   #427
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Scutaro, 34 years old after a contract year...not a typical Red Sox move
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Pudge is that desperate....

Figured you guys would have swooped in and picked him up.
Yeah, I think I would have preferred Pudge.

Like I said though, I don't think Bengie Molina is a bad player...but he swings at everything (only like 7 walks all of last year) and he'll likely be batting next to Jeff Francoeur, who also is a free swinger. Plus he's slow as shit and 35 years old.

I'd be happy to give him a one-year deal with an option, but now with Pudge getting two years, the Mets might be cornered into doing the same.
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Old 12-08-2009, 12:22 PM   #429
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lol Mets sign Mike Hessman, perhaps best known for spending an inning at all 9 positions in a AAA game last September.
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I'm on the fence about that Granderson deal. I think he would fit in nicely in the outfield, but I think we were giving up too much for him. Coke was pretty good in the playoffs and one of the guys I was comfortable with pitching the 6th/7th.

You guys know I'm not sold on Jackson yet until he does anything in the big leagues, but he's still our #1 prospect

And Ian Kennedy; meh deal him.
Same here. Don't know how I feel about it. Montero is probably #1 in our system but Jackson is a clear #2.

If it goes down I don't think I'll hate it, but if it doesn't go through it doesn't matter to me. Either way this goes I can't say I'd be upset. One thing that I just read is the Tigers might let the Yanks keep one of the relievers. Which is kinda big I guess because if Coke gets dealt Dunn would have been his replacement. Would be nice to keep at least Dunn.

If that happens the only real piece I'd hate losing is Jackson. I'm not sure Kennedy will ever get another shot with us, while he actually might be a decent back-end starter in the NL. And losing Coke isn't a big deal to me.

Granderson does worry me a little bit though. I mean the splits are just brutal and in a perfect world he'd actually be a platoon player and sit against lefties. I mean usually a player would have decent power and a lower average against lefties, Granderson can't do anything against them.

One thing that trading Jackson does is it probably means it'll be the only big trade of the offseason. I can't see the Yankees getting someone like Halladay with Jackson gone. That means they'd have to give up at least two of Hughes, Montero and Joba which I can't see them doing. With Jackson there was a chance they gave up one of them (probably a pitcher) plus Jackson and some lesser "B" prospects.
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Supposedly this 3-way deal is close. Could be done by day's end.
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One of the Yankee leftys got dropped from the deal. Either Coke or Dunn.

Just waiting for the Yanks to give the green light. About 40 minutes or so.
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Glad we get to keep one of them. I'm assuming Coke is going. So at least we have Dunn to replace him.
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Pretty much a done deal. Just ironing out the minor things.

Yanks get: Curtis Granderson
D-Backs get: Ian Kennedy, Edwin Jackson
Tigers get: Austin Jackson, Phil Coke, Daniel Schlereth, and Max Scherzer
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SO Damon or Matsui or both are surely gone
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Damon's options as I see right now:

1. Come back for lower money in LF or lose your job.

2. Fight for/share the DH spot with Matsui.

3. Fight another place of employment.

I heard the Angels were looking in on Matsui.
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Not a steal for the Yanks by any means (I guess all trades can't be Betemit for Swisher). Seems pretty even value wise. Except for the DBacks. I think they kinda get screwed.
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who knows, Kennedy could turn out to be a stud in the NL West
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I love the trade, but I hate giving up Granderson. LC, you will notice how he will do great things for your community when he gets there.
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