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Old 01-16-2007, 09:28 PM   #441
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My stepdad told me his dads number might have been 24.
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:33 PM   #442
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Old 01-16-2007, 09:44 PM   #443
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Well my stepdad was wrong who knows maybe it was just his high school number. But when he came into the NBA who could've had his number. Maybe it was Al Green but I think he was 31 or something.....I'll look it up.

EDIT: Here it is from Yahoo!


Kobe changed his jersey to start the second half of his career sort of like a fresh start. All the drama of Shaq, the Colorado case, etc will end with the number 8. He chose the number 24 to show his hard work ethic which is 24 hours a day. Saying that he works 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. Kobe and Odom is 24/7. It also helps if changing your number will also increase your jersey sales

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Old 01-17-2007, 06:08 AM   #444
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I don't like 24, it's not as identifyable. I went to a Lakers game this year and he didn't do all that much, but ended up with like 30 points.
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I agree 8 was a number no other good person really wore. But its not the number that makes the player its the player that makes the number. I still think 8 was better.
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Who made 21 famous? It seems like there are a couple players wearing that now, notably Duncan and Garnett.
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WTF

The Pacers traded Al Harrington AND Stephen Jackson to the Warriors for Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy.

Larry Bird has gone off his rocker.

I could understand Jackson, but HARRINGTON???

I mean after all of the trouble of getting Big Al in the offseason only to turn around and trade him for two mid-level white guys?

I guess this is the end of JO here.
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Pacers, Warriors swing 8-player trade
January 17, 2007

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- The Indiana Pacers traded Al Harrington and Stephen Jackson to the Golden State Warriors on Wednesday for forwards Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy as part of an eight-player deal designed to shake up two struggling teams.

The Pacers also sent guard Sarunas Jasikevicius and forward Josh Powell to the Warriors, who gave up forward Ike Diogu and guard Keith McLeod.

"We feel we made a pretty significant trade for the franchise that will be good for both teams," Pacers president Larry Bird said in a statement. "We feel the players we got will make a significant difference in the franchise."

Murphy, Dunleavy and Diogu had been reduced to high-priced backups for failing to measure up to new coach Don Nelson's expectations this season, while Jackson was dogged by legal troubles in Indiana.

Jackson, in his third season with the Pacers, faces felony charges in Indianapolis, accused of firing a gun during a fight outside a strip club. A judge scheduled a Feb. 12 trial for Jackson and another man who is accused of driving a car that hit Jackson during the Oct. 6 fight outside Club Rio on the city's west side.

Jackson, who is averaging 14.1 points per game this season, has pleaded not guilty to a felony charge of criminal recklessness and misdemeanor counts of battery and disorderly conduct. He is free on $10,000 bond pending trial.

The criminal recklessness charge carries a prison term of six months to three years.

Harrington was in his second stretch with the Pacers after being acquired in a trade from Atlanta in August. He is averaging 15.9 points per game this season.

Jasikevicius, in his second season with the Pacers, is averaging 7.4 points per game, and Powell has appeared in seven games.

Dunleavy, in his fifth season, averaged 11.4 points per game, and Murphy, a sixth-year veteran from Notre Dame, is averaging 8.9 points per game. Second-year player Diogu is averaging 7.2 points in 17 games, and McLeod, in his fourth season, averaged 5.3 points per game.

The players acquired from Golden State are expected to be on the bench when the Pacers host the New York Knicks Saturday night in Conseco Fieldhouse.
Jesus if they wanted to lose this bad they should've done this sooner so we could potentially be in the Oden sweepstakes if he decides to come out early.
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To make it clear:

Pacers Get:
Troy Murphy
Mike Dunleavy
Ike Diogu
Keith McLeod

Warriors Get:
Stephen Jackson
Al Harrington
Sarunas Jasikevicius
Josh Powell

Personally, I don't think it is that bad. They needed to get rid of Jackson, giving up up Harrington too might be a little much, but in return they got three guys who will definitely play for them.
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I don't really care that they got rid of Jackson, but Harrington???

What the fuck???

Next thing you know they are going to send Jermaine O'Neal to the Knicks for Nikoloz Tskitishvili.
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Is Tskidi still in the league? I thought he was either on the Suns or gone, (beyond the point).

I was going to look at the salaries to see if the Pacers inherited any good ones, but Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy are signed for like five more years and getting a lot of money. I dunno, I guess they really wanted to get rid of Jackson. Harrington and Jackson have four years left, but definitely better contracts than the other two.

I guess what I would say is that the Pacers really weren't going anywhere with Harrington and Jackson. They really aren't going anywhere now either, but they just got a lot younger and a lot better behaved. As for Jermaine, he is overrated. He is the face of the franchise, but if they did want to trade him, they could probably get a lot. Realistically though, he is going to need another really good player (ie like a Wade or Arenas type) to ever win a championship.
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On Yahoo's roster page it says he's with the Knicks, I just picked some random white guy.

The only guys they really should've gotten rid of were Jax and Tinsley. They could've gotten a couple of veterans with expiring contracts in return. Then they could go after a top FA in the off season. It just seems like they are throwing in the towel already.
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WTF

The Pacers traded Al Harrington AND Stephen Jackson to the Warriors for Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy.

Larry Bird has gone off his rocker.

I could understand Jackson, but HARRINGTON???

I mean after all of the trouble of getting Big Al in the offseason only to turn around and trade him for two mid-level white guys?

I guess this is the end of JO here.
Harrington has been horrible this year, plus he was starting to bitch and complain.

Donnie Walsh is incredible. This deal had his name written all over it. Somehow he managed to get rid of Stephen Jackson. Simply amazing.

I think this is apart of a bigger deal. I cant see this deal being a deal that sets the team up for a run. I think something bigger is in the works. Maybe including Jason Kidd. I dunno.
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I can't see any reason why the Nets would be trading Jason Kidd right now. Is there some reason why you would think that, or is it just random?
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Its being reported all over the place and when they asked the Nets GM if he was shopping Kidd, he didnt comment whether he was or not. Its no secret that the Nets are shopping Kidd, Carter and Jefferson to see what deals are out there.

I could see something along the lines of Tinsley, Dunleavy and Foster maybe for Kidd and another player.

I dunno, this is my speculation, but its not secret the Nets are shopping him.
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What a game last night! Went to see the Jazz vs Pistons last night. 18,000 Piston fans and 1 jack ass Utah fan screaming and being totally obnoxious .

btw Kirlenko should never handle the ball. He's a disaster.
 
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I don't really see why the Nets would have any interest in Dunleavy. Richard Jefferson and Vince Carter play the same position and a lot better. If there was some sort of a deal, it would definitely include Tinsley, but I would think Ike and somebody else. I still don't really see that happening though.

How about this one:
Jermaine O'Neal for Richard Jefferson and Nenad Krstic

HA.

I would think the Nets are more likely to trade Jefferson than anybody else on their team though.
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Harrington has been horrible this year, plus he was starting to bitch and complain.

Donnie Walsh is incredible. This deal had his name written all over it. Somehow he managed to get rid of Stephen Jackson. Simply amazing.

I think this is apart of a bigger deal. I cant see this deal being a deal that sets the team up for a run. I think something bigger is in the works. Maybe including Jason Kidd. I dunno.
I mean granted Harrington hasn't been playing like he COULD be playing so far, he is still a lot better than Murphy and Dunleavy.

And I would hate for the Pacers to get rid of Jeff Foster, he contributes a lot more to the Pacers than what people give him credit for. Granted he's not a scorer, but he makes up for it in heart. I know that sounds cliche but they need a guy like Foster right now. Not to mention he's a pretty good defender

If anything they need to get a decent SG right now. I think Granger is developing to be a pretty good SF, but they are going to shift in to SG to make room for Dunleavy in the SL. I was hoping they could've swung a deal for Corey Maggette instead.

For now I see them shifting Granger to SG and having a lineup like this

C: Foster
PF: O'Neal
SF: Dunleavy
SG: Granger
PG: Tinsley

Now if Dunleavy can play at least 10x's better than he did in GS, then I can forgive Bird/Walsh for the trade. I just don't see that happening, I see two guys who never lived up to their potential eating up a shit load of cap space for the next 4 years.
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It seems to me like Dunleavy and Granger are the same player, that is part of the reason I don't like this trade. I would have preferred a good jump shooter to compliment Granger and Tinsley.
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Granger is developing into a better player than Dunleavy as well.
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Yeah, if I had to choose one it would be Granger. He seems just as capable of a player but like five years younger.
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In the next 2 years or so, Granger will be a beast.

I think you're underestimating Troy Murphy here. He's a very solid player. He give you 10 rebounds a game and he's a shooter. Could play the PF or SF position also. I guess they are banking on Dunleavy to develope alot more now that he's away from the Golden St. situation. Its a gamble, but i trust Bird and i trust Donny Walsh with my life if it came down to making a great trade in the long run. Donny Walsh knows what he's doing. Ike Diogu is the wild card. He might develope into a Carlos Boozer type player. He's really good and from what i've read, he wasnt given playing time because Nelson liked to play up tempo basketball.

Anways. I think theirs another trade in the works. Its just odd that this happend so fast and the long contracts are odd also. I just get the feeling something else in the works. Maybe ship Dunleavy over to the Clippers for Maggette. I dont know. Something is wrong here. Its odd that we picked up those two contracts. I like both players, but it just seems odd. I know Indiana wanted Diogu and i'm guessing he's a lock to stay, but something else has to be up here. I just have this feeling. Could be wrong. Who knows.
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Yeah, Maggette for Dunleavy, or some form of that, is what I was just going to post. Seems like it would make sense.
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Maggette has been rumoured to go to my Jazz.

That's about that last thing I want
 
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This game sucks. meh. I guess I can take a loss now, Lakers have been doin really good lately, they were bound for a kinda ugly loss. down 21 right now with 3:30 left. ew.
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Same thing with the Wolves on Wednesday. Meh
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Jesus Christ, do the suns EVER lose?!
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:34 AM   #473
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Old 01-23-2007, 03:33 PM   #475
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This isn't because I am biased as a Lakers fan or anything, but seriously, you gotta admit, Kobe is amazing. He's not putting up 40 shots a game anymore, his PPG is down, but his percentage is up, and the same with his rebounds and assists. He's really helping this team develop. I think they can make a deep run in the playoffs if Lamar comes back strong. Kwame, meh, I guess he can help too.
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I was the only one who stood by Kobe in the year after Shaq left. Everybody was like, "Oh hey, Shaq is so much better of a player, the Heat are good and the Lakers average." But that was so stupid. Even now, Kobe doesn't have nearly the supporting cast as Dirk, Duncan, Nash and T-Mac, but his team is right up there. Kobe is probably the best player in the league, based on talent alone, and he definitely is capable of winning another championship at some point without Shaq.
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:10 PM   #478
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I thought the Wolves would be worse than they are right now.
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Although they had just lost four in a row, I found it to be really odd timing. I guess this way you tell the new coach "Keep doing the same and you are in the playoffs" rather than "You have to make up a lot of ground to make the playoffs." Still, I was really surprised to see it.
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I think the Suns are gonna end up 74-8 or something. For Fuck's Sake.
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